John Vere

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Cakewalk staff view is very limited and is not really intended to be used in any advanced scoring. Its main use is for people who would rather work in this domain than Piano Roll for editing.

My DAW has 10 GB of Memory. I never have to do what you are doing, I've never had to freeze tracks etc. and I think we write the same sort of songs. Only thing I have never used is Kontakt.

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Sorry I probably copied my link from within the editing software. It’s in my signature and in the tutorial sub forum as well. I fixed it. My reference to midi can be unreliable under certain conditions. I too started performing using midi files and an Atari computer with sound modules in about 1984. Stuck notes, wrong patch changes etc. were pretty common for us back then. So possibly my experience with midi was resolved with better hardware latter on. But I learned to not trust it to always sound the same. I was happy when the Sony Mini disk system came out in the 90's as that not only remove 100 lbs of gear, it was rock solid dependable. I still have all my original Midi files and many of my backing tracks started life back then. My latest live performance playback is I now make videos of some the songs that in my old age I'm rusty about lyrics. Yep, sort of Karaoke but not quite. The lyrics don't scroll they just display 4 lines at a time as the song progresses so it's more like using a song book. I might even add reminders like don't forget the capo! The backing tracks are the same as I've always used just Drums, bass and Keyboards. They have always been high quality Wave files. Even the Mini Disk was very high quality. Now the VST instruments I use are way better than those sounds from my old Korg module. The Ample P bass lite is the first midi bass I've every given a thumb's up too ever. The rest sound like someone farting to me. I made many backing tracks that featured real bass and sometimes real drums. Those were some of my very first Cakewalk project about 2004. I have a whole Cakewalk playlist rig set up but I find a few issues with it being slower for things like if I decide to skip a bunch of songs. I use Win Amp and a foot switch. Also the video view seems buggy. My only reason for thinking of using the playlist is one band I have we are all multi instrumentalists who like to play bass. I wanted optional mixes. In the end it was easier just to create those mixes as split stereo with the bass in the left and drums in the right. We run the Bass track to a bass amp and have a A/B switch to swap out to the real bass.

The You Lean meter is very light load and I have it on hundreds of projects I export. I never turn it off. It is not likely the cause of an export issue or thousands of people would report it. I think the best solution is to capture that crash dump an have some one look at it If it is Trillion I will be listed as a cause of the crash. If your SSD drive is a Samsung they have a diagnostic tool. I thought my drive was needing replacement and I ordered a new one in the box was the info about the tool app so I installed it and it showed both my Samsung drives as being 100 % healthy. https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/magician/

A workaround would be to import them into Reaper or a Wave editor like Audacity and re save them which would clear the weird data added by the Zoom.

But the difference is the Roland Concerto even though discontinued is available from a trusted source. And for anyone interested I found info on it here. Wasn't anything on the Roland site about free download. https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2022/07/01/roland-concerto-free/

I made a series of tutorials that will bring you up to speed quickly on Cakewalk. A lot has changed and there's even a new easier way to insert instrument tracks now. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGt7K5L5fUIUF_UjCsdAVCbd

Abandonware. Use at your own risk. I was going to try it but I personally avoid software that is abandoned and hard to find. I hope you scanned the heck out of the files. Especially if it used an installer that can be super risky.

Melodyne 4 came for free with older versions of both Sonar and then Cakewalk. Soon after the update to Melodyne 5 they changed it so it was now only a demo that lasts about 30 days. If you have Melodyne 4 it will continue to work for Tempo extraction as well as Convert monophonic audio ( Bass) to midi. But the editor stops functioning after 30 days. If you have Sonar PLat you should have the Melodyn 4 serial and the installer is in the Command Center. T You can open Melodyne editor and see what version as well as if it is still activated. Melodyne will be listed under Celemony on the list of programs in the start menu and can be opened as a stand alone app. The version is found under the About in the help menu. There was some noticeable performance improvements with Melodyne 5. I decided to purchase a better version as for me it pays for it self almost daily. Cakewalk is free. why not spend the money on something that makes it much more powerful? It goes on sale regularly. I saved over $200 by upgrading during a sale. If you do have version 4 from Sonar check you Celemony account to see if there is an upgrade offer still available. I use the tempo extraction a lot, I use the convert Bass parts to midi a lot, I convert lead guitar parts to midi a lot, I edit both Vocal and full guitar chords a lot, and not just pitch but timing, level ( amplitude) and duration. All done in Melodyne. Their web site has some of the best tutorials around. That's when I really got the hang of what it does.

And now we use Melodyne to do what Audio Snap did.

If you need to dig a little deeper it means Read the F******** manual its been around since the beginning of user forums for software and fixing your Truck.

And also thinking about what you said about playing Cakewalk live, Have you tried the Playlist feature? That's what it's for. It manages the different projects for you and loads them up while the last one is playing. You can play both hardware and software instruments at the same time as well as have audio tracks. That's what I do so there's no weirdness. I use all audio tracks. In over 2 decades of live gigs audio has never failed me. Midi can have issues. Midi 2.0 promises to fix that however.

I think your saving as a Midi file. You need to use Normal file format CWP to create projects. Midi files only save the data and the TTS_1 is Cakewalks default to play midi files. A lot of this I covered in the midi tutorials. which are here on my new playlist. Scroll down to around the 9th video where I start explaining midi stuff. Looks like he beat me to it by 3 seconds... https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGt7K5L5fUIUF_UjCsdAVCbd

I had to dig to find this so giving it a bump. I'm pointing people to it in the video I'm working on that is mostly about why new users need to join in on this forum.

Yes WASAPI exclusive has sometimes better round trip latency than even some ASIO devices at the same settings. But, I found many devices don't support it. The good news is the Realtek audio does support it so this makes it a very good driver for people using on board audio. The minute you plug in a USB audio device you will want ASIO. If you can live with the latency, fine. And that can actually be adjusted in sync and caching. You perform a loopback test and measure the difference and add or subtract it in the box I pointed out. The issue with the sound quality is a mystery but until the OP gets the mike working with WASAPI exclusive ( or shared) mode we can only guess as it most certainly would be the driver. I can see real bad sound happening in Cakewalk if using MME mode. Another question is if the Driver supports the projects sample rate, that can also sound terrible.

We are not talking about the audio quality that should not be the issue. We are taking about the need for all the other things that a proper audio interface with ASIO supports. Most important is track synchronization. I find it very odd that very few people realize how important ASIO really is to audio recording being in sync. You record the vocals to a backing track in WASAPI shared mode and it will be at least 60 ms late. WASAPI exclusive performance is better but not all devices support it and it will still be late , just by less. Then there’s monitoring etc.

Yes you are correct not true freeware. Gold wave is free to use but you can pay for it to get rid of Nag screen. I bought the lifetime license a long time ago for $50. It’s the best one for batch conversion of files. I thought older versions of Sound Forge were available free? I have never paid for it myself. The latest version came with Movie Maker by Magix.

That's sort of scary! You might want to turn on Auto save for now until you sort it out. I have re -assigned my M key to be save. I found I never used it for markers. But you seem suspicious of Trilian. See what happens if you swap it out for Ample P bass or SI Bass. I don't know if you've tried it, but I find Ample P bass lite the perfect bass for my music. It's free. Defiantly these days if Cakewalk crashes it's a plug in. You can submit a crash report to Cakewalk staff. They really appreciate the reports. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/3865-better-problem-reporting-how-to-capture-a-crash-dump/

Because Cakewalk works at 32 bit floating point I always export stems as 48/32 no dither. To me that's as good as it's going to get. Looking at digital audio under a microscope is a bit ( pun intended) of waist of time. I totally agree with this:

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As usual it's right under your nose if you right click the track header.

That doesn’t work for me. I have to use Safari. Both Chrome and Edge have never shown images from the documentation for me for years on all my computers. I tried all the suggestions offered. The web site is funky and that’s all there is to it.