Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 10, 2020 New session, new issue. I have a vocal track with Melodyne on it. I'm trying to raise the level. Fader moves are audible. Gain all the way up or down not audible. I make drastic changes in EQ, not audible. Prochannel is on. But when I disable Melodyne, then I can hear the changes. Why is Melodyne affecting my track like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,395 Posted May 10, 2020 It may depend on how Melodyne is used (an FX or Region FX) and where the Prochannel is in the signal path (before or after the FX Rack). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 10, 2020 I have Melodyne on the track itself. I couldn't figure out how to put in on as a region effect but thinking back, I could have put Melodyne on each clip. But would that be less efficient on my CPU? I didn't put Prochannel anywhere other than it's default location on the track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,395 Posted May 10, 2020 Melodyne is not a normal FX plug-in. While it may be placed in the FX rack, the audio signal does not pass through the plug-in. Instead the signal originates from the plug-in using the data transferred to it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msmcleod 3,441 Posted May 10, 2020 This is how you should use Melodyne: More details here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lapasoa 111 Posted May 10, 2020 What you mean with "Fader moves are audible"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 10, 2020 @scook I guess it makes sense now.@lapasoa Meaning when I raise or lower the fader, I can hear the volume change.@msmcleod Thanks for that. That's what I tried to begin with but all the options in the context menu were greyed out so I had to put Melo on as a track effect. Sometimes when I go back to listen to my edits, I hear things that I missed or want to fix so I never want to commit to rendering the edits. Is it better to freeze the track when done editing or should I render to a new track and archive the original track in case I need to fix something? Or it is six of one, half dozen of the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,395 Posted May 10, 2020 The VST3 plug-in must be installed for Melodyne to work as a Region FX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 2:33 PM, scook said: The VST3 plug-in must be installed for Melodyne to work as a Region FX. How do I do this? I'm sure I would have installed the VST3 version when installing Melo. Should I reinstall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,395 Posted May 14, 2020 The default location for the Melodyne VST3 plug-in is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Celemony\Melodyne I believe clicking Melodyne 4 in Windows Apps & Features and running Modify will allow adding the VST3 if it has not been installed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Baay 867 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 3:19 AM, scook said: Melodyne is not a normal FX plug-in. While it may be placed in the FX rack, the audio signal does not pass through the plug-in. Instead the signal originates from the plug-in using the data transferred to it. So if Melodyne is used in the FX bin, you would need to right-click in Prochannel and set it to 'Post FX Rack' for it to have an effect (no pun intended). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reginaldStjohn 218 Posted May 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Helos Bonos said: How do I do this? I'm sure I would have installed the VST3 version when installing Melo. Should I reinstall? Sometimes the region effects don't show up for me unless I bounce the clip. I think if the clip is edited in certain ways it makes the region efx unavailable. Once I bounce I can then apply the Region EFX again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cactus Music 1,576 Posted May 15, 2020 Also you need to activate it. It does not come free with Cakewalk anymore. You would need your licence from Splat version. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 15, 2020 12 hours ago, reginaldStjohn said: Sometimes the region effects don't show up for me unless I bounce the clip. I think if the clip is edited in certain ways it makes the region efx unavailable. Once I bounce I can then apply the Region EFX again. So, I think you're right. I gridded the vocal clips before Melodyning. That's probably why it wouldn't show up as a region effect. I tried it on some other vocals that I did not edit and was able to add the region effect. DARN! Now I'm stuck with it this way. I already tuned the first chorus. My intention was to take that chorus and copy/paste to other parts of the song. But with Melodyne on the whole track, I guess I'll have to bounce it first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 15, 2020 So if I freeze the track with the Melodyne edits, will I be able to copy and paste the clips with the Melodyne tuning or do I have to bounce it first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reginaldStjohn 218 Posted May 16, 2020 You can try it and see. But my guess would be once you freeze the track all effects will be bounce in and you should be able to copy and move stuff around since they are just audio clips. However, if you ever unfreeze all these edits will be lost. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helos Bonos 24 Posted May 16, 2020 That what I'm afraid of! I can't afford to lose all those tuning edits. I guess I'll have to duplicate a guinea pig track and test it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites