Prochannel and Gain Not Affecting Track Sound

[Helos Bonos 24]

New session, new issue.

I have a vocal track with Melodyne on it. I'm trying to raise the level. Fader moves are audible. Gain all the way up or down not audible. I make  drastic changes in EQ, not audible. Prochannel is on. But when I disable Melodyne, then I can hear the changes. Why is Melodyne affecting my track like this?

[scook 4,395]

It may depend on how Melodyne is used (an FX or Region FX) and where the Prochannel is in the signal path (before or after the FX Rack).

 

[Helos Bonos 24]

I have Melodyne on the track itself. I couldn't figure out how to put in on as a region effect but thinking back, I could have put Melodyne on each clip. But would that be less efficient on my CPU? I didn't put Prochannel anywhere other than it's default location on the track.

[scook 4,395]

Melodyne is not a normal FX plug-in. While it may be placed in the FX rack, the audio signal does not pass through the plug-in. Instead the signal originates from the plug-in using the data transferred to it.

 

[msmcleod 3,441]

This is how you should use Melodyne:



More details here:
 

 

[lapasoa 111]

What you mean with "Fader moves are audible"?

[Helos Bonos 24]

@scook I guess it makes sense now.

@lapasoa Meaning when I raise or lower the fader, I can hear the volume change.

@msmcleod Thanks for that. That's what I tried to begin with but all the options in the context menu were greyed out so I had to put Melo on as a track effect.

Sometimes when I go back to listen to my edits, I hear things that I missed or want to fix so I never want to commit to rendering the edits. Is it better to freeze the track when done editing or should I render to a new track and archive the original track in case I need to fix something? Or it is six of one, half dozen of the other?

[scook 4,395]

The VST3 plug-in must be installed for Melodyne to work as a Region FX.

[Helos Bonos 24]

On 5/10/2020 at 2:33 PM, scook said:

The VST3 plug-in must be installed for Melodyne to work as a Region FX.

How do I do this? I'm sure I would have installed the VST3 version when installing Melo. Should I reinstall?

[scook 4,395]

The default location for the Melodyne VST3 plug-in is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Celemony\Melodyne

I believe clicking Melodyne 4 in Windows Apps & Features and running Modify will allow adding the VST3 if it has not been installed.

 

[David Baay 867]

On 5/10/2020 at 3:19 AM, scook said:

Melodyne is not a normal FX plug-in. While it may be placed in the FX rack, the audio signal does not pass through the plug-in. Instead the signal originates from the plug-in using the data transferred to it.

So if Melodyne is used in the FX bin, you would need to right-click in Prochannel and set it to 'Post FX Rack' for it to have an effect (no pun intended).

[reginaldStjohn 218]

9 hours ago, Helos Bonos said:

How do I do this? I'm sure I would have installed the VST3 version when installing Melo. Should I reinstall?

Sometimes the region effects don't show up for me unless I bounce the clip. I think if the clip is edited in certain ways it makes the region efx unavailable. Once I bounce I can then apply the Region EFX again.

[Cactus Music 1,576]

Also you need to activate it. It does not come free with Cakewalk anymore. You would need your licence from Splat version. 

[Helos Bonos 24]

12 hours ago, reginaldStjohn said:

Sometimes the region effects don't show up for me unless I bounce the clip. I think if the clip is edited in certain ways it makes the region efx unavailable. Once I bounce I can then apply the Region EFX again.

So, I think you're right. I gridded the vocal clips before Melodyning. That's probably why it wouldn't show up as a region effect. I tried it on some other vocals that I did not edit and was able to add the region effect. DARN! Now I'm stuck with it this way. I already tuned the first chorus. My intention was to take that chorus and copy/paste to other parts of the song. But with Melodyne on the whole track, I guess I'll have to bounce it first.

[Helos Bonos 24]

So if I freeze the track with the Melodyne edits, will I be able to copy and paste the clips with the Melodyne tuning or do I have to bounce it first?

[reginaldStjohn 218]

You can try it and see. But my guess would be once you freeze the track all effects will be bounce in and you should be able to copy and move stuff around since they are just audio clips. However, if you ever unfreeze all these edits will be lost.

[Helos Bonos 24]

That what I'm afraid of! I can't afford to lose all those tuning edits. I guess I'll have to duplicate a guinea pig track and test it.