Christian Jones

1472 now. Still, do you *really* think we're gonna find 28 more sign ups in 3 days? No, sadly.

I'm just gonna do Bass Pear for $23 since it goes down to D and C. Or I might drop out. If that happens and you guys are stuck at a stubborn 1499, get in touch with my people and plead with them for my return

No Chris. No light. It's a freight train, I know it. You'll see.

I think I *maybe* get it. Can this be done in Cakewalk in real-time so it happens without you even noticing? Because if so, then perhaps that midi transpose in the daw thing could work for the OTS Lap Steel too, because that Lap Steel is in open E, and I'd like to take that down to.. Anybody know? Yep, Eb 🤣

Hey bud, yeah I'm trying to make sense of this voodoo. So in your example, you wanted to tune down from C to B, and you accomplished this by using Kontakt's tune function to tune *all* of the instrument's notes down a semitone. That worked, but now you hear a B note when you press C on your midi keyboard (and relative same for the rest of the notes), and that's the problem. No one wants to play e.g. an E note on their midi keyboard and have it play an Eb, or a C and have it play a B note. So your saying, to correct that, you transpose the midi in your daw up one semitone and that's what's not making sense to me. I must be misunderstanding, but it seems to me either your hardware midi keyboard, or the piano roll is going to be showing you a different note than what you're hearing - unless the midi transpose function in your daw--Cakewalk in my case--is taking care of that behind the scenes so that both the hardware midi keyboard *and* piano roll... train of thought just derailed 🤯

Thanks Greg, I'm confused though; if I wanted to tune the whole instrument to Eb (which I do) by tuning Kontakt's tune knob down a semitone, why would I then want to transpose my bass part up a semitone? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose? Can't the whole mapping of notes just be slid down a half-step so the Eb flat appears on the Eb key of a midi keyboard and so on for the rest of the notes? Basically I just want to tune the whole instrument down a half-step to Eb and then be able to play those notes on the appropriate corresponding keys on a midi keyboard. Sorry but one other thing; how about the Lap Steel.. can that be tuned flat as well? I know you sampled it in open E tuning .. Thanks a bunch

Hey Greg, since I have you here, can Bass Pear be tuned flat or is E the lowest note you can have? Thanks

Yeah, but that's all done in post. I need the instrument to play a certain way right out the gate in real time.

Yeah I believe that was it as I dug up an old post where I asked about it here some time ago and I now recall that the key switches were in the way of what I wanted to do, so when I tried to transpose it just messed everything up. That library otherwise had a great raw sound that I wanted to be mine but no. IIRC, I think there was naturally an Eb note present in that library, but I wanted the sampled E note to be the Eb, so I used Kontakt's transpose function to make it happen and then I attempted to "slide" the whole mapping down a half step to accommodate and the key switches went haywire and so did some of the notes.

https://premiersoundfactory.com/acoustic-bass-premier-g/ That's what I was talking about, I guess it's back now. People were crazy about it, I'll have to research it again

Yeah I'm f'n dying. Here in Seattle it's 106° which is the hottest I've ever been in. You mock a dying man 🥵

In any case OTS Bass Pear will be like $23 if it gets to 60%, and here in Seattle it's easy to spend $23+ on dinner for *one*! So,

Since that word on the street made it all the way back to you there in France I believe it 100%

Simple, right? Not so w/ Straight Ahead Upright Bass from Straight Ahead Samples. With that library, when I transposed the key down a half-step to Eb so that the Eb tuning would be mapped beginning from the Eb key on a keyboard, the script got all wonky; notes would actually change their own mapping so that when you played a note that note would then jump from its current mapping to a sharp or flat adjacent keyboard key, like a practical joke. Nightmare of a library for my use, which was to simply tune the instrument flat a half-step. If you're taking about playing the instrument in its natural key (E) and then transposing the notes after the fact.. no way. The instrument needs to play the way I intend it to initially and workarounds won't do for me in that case. Probably I'll just put my money towards Ample Bass and be happy. I went through this about a year ago, researching the best *Upright* bass vsts out there. There was this real sought-after one, I believe made by a Japanese guy, who took it off the market for a moment but promised that it was being improved and would be released again soon and people were almost begging him for it. Don't remember what it was called now, but quick research could probably dig it up.

Hmm. Can it be tuned to other keys?

How do you like bass pear by itself?

Still, I don't think we're gonna make it, Chris.. hold me 😢 And if we don't make it and I don't get what I want.. then avenge me!

Aren't you getting something out of that OTS group buy? Absolutely. You're not done yet.

I know King Lar rides.. wonder if he's taking his bike to get there.. in this weather, I would..

And that's precisely why you're not ready. There's no way to prepare. Just as time passes without your say-so, you either arrive or you don't. And you haven't yet. But I'll keep an eye on your development

If only you could. I don't believe you're ready yet

I vaguely remember those but I think I didn't give them a chance..

I've always been amazing.. you should hear me

Yeah I had to put music down for a minute and I stopped coming here for a while I keep myself from continuing to buy plugins in the meantime. But I came back the other day and the first thing I did was sign up to that group buy to buy OTS lap steel 🤷 Yeah there's no decent upright bass in Komplete

My man Tezza wudup man! You still down under? That's not a knife.. Yeah, I like Eb because it's dark; darker than even drop D and so on, because it has the crispness and attack that E standard has, but it also has this beautiful dark violet sound.. it's hard for me to explain but I associate that color with it. So I tune my regular guitars, electric and acoustic to Eb and I tune my baritone strat to Bb, though I believe technically that's A#, and I tune my 5-string bass to Bb so all of my guitars are in relative tune with each other. I wouldn't go near a regular bass guitar library though, but I do need an upright bass library as I just I don't play upright bass and I don't intend to own one anytime soon. An upright bass vst, tuned to E flat and shoved through octavers and amp sims like I do everything else. I haven't tried the Kontakt Scarbee bass but I'm not surprised that it's decent cuz there's a lot of great stuff Komplete actually