Michael Vogel

8 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

@paulo

Also you are running a very old Cakewalk build - We fixed several issues with recording aux tracks and synths in the April release. (Although that isnt directly related to this specific issue necessarily)

First post OP says “2020.09 if it matters. “

53 minutes ago, jonathan boose said:

I have a real problem with being unable to delete posts. Makes me very unhappy.

Users are unable to delete their own posts. You can however edit a post. If you’ve written something inappropriate just go back and replace the inappropriate text with something like “written in error”. That is unless changing the text would change the context of posts that reference the post in question. Don’t worry too much about it. 
Being unable to delete a post is among other things an attempt to maintain coherence between posts. 

Perhaps the reality is that in such a relatively small market such as DAWs (compared to the whole of the entertainment media market) there are just too many players today.
BTW there have been enough big names to use Sonar that if that was really what would bring in a flood of new users it would have already happened.
I think that ProTools locked the early digital adopters into hardware and software simultaneously. Provided a turnkey system when there wasn’t one. After a studio made such a big investment the game was already over. Big studios, our music starting point decades ago, wouldn’t change what worked back then nor are they going to change what continues to work today.  
No matter that I’ve worked with ProTools on a PC  with non PT hardware and prefer several DAWs over it especially Cakewalk. I don’t own a multi million dollar studio and while I can own multiple DAWs and pretty good hardware it’s not a turnkey system which is what Pro Tools can offer. When you’re in the big name space that’s your solution not a cobbled together system.  
Sure a big expensive studio takes maintenance and down time too despite all the expensive toys, that’s the cost of doing business in the big space. 
Despite the fact that I can also manipulate audio in a way that took million of dollars of gear a few decades ago, I’m never going to attract a big name artist. I’m just not in that space and never have been.  Anyway don’t want to start a war.  

Just one persons observation and opinion of course. 

I have a Slate Media Technology Raven MT1 which is a 27” touch screen controller interface that doubles as a touch sensitive computer monitor with a dedicated licensed interface for Cubase 10.5 (currently) but Cakewalk does work on it natively though I don’t use it. Not sure whether it’s multi point touch capable though Cubase is 10 point (or is it 4 on the MT1?)(I don’t remember) touch capable within this system. 
 

I guess that’s a long way of saying that Cakewalk, like Sonar before it is touch capable but I’m not sure how many touch points can be used simultaneously. 
 

Because Sonar was always touch capable, Slate never designed a dedicated Raven interface for it.
I haven’t used my system in a few years now so haven’t kept up with progress of the Slate eco-systems. I bought my MT1 just as the MT2 was being released with production holdups always causing delays but it was to be ages before the new version was going to be available in Australia so I went with the MT1 model. It’s a great monitor and very responsive -

I should spend some time with it again as I know there’s been some software updates I’ve missed. 

20 hours ago, Kevin Perry said:

Depends on the NAS, the network speed and the network usage (congestion)...oh, and how much data you need to pull (eg. if a NAS can't do one audio track, it's broken :-)).

Yep I agree. When the OP mentioned DIY I assumed (but shouldn’t have) a budget build not up to the task (of live audio streaming) in the context of recording audio in Cakewalk while accessing the audio on a NAS. There’s a difference between streaming an audio or video track from disc to including that stream in live audio work. 
 

I run a Waves/DIGIGRID system where plug-in processing is offloaded to a specialised server for processing. I’m fairly familiar with pushing and pulling audio through a Gigabit network for real time processing. I always see it as a kind of dark art. 

Sorry I’ve not read all the comments but - only use the NAS for backup and archiving. 
Don’t use it for live access to projects or samples for your audio projects.
It just won’t be fast enough. 

Contact JimRoseberry through this forum. He’s a long term Sonar/Cakewalk pro user and the company he owns and operates builds Studio PCs. 
For a modest fee he’ll provide you a list (including links where to buy) of tested not just recommended components for assemble yourself or build one for you. 
The advantage is that he knows from his vast system building experience, what works and what doesn’t or component incompatibilities that are unsuitable for a DAW. 

Many here have used his services including myself and I’ve never heard a negative comment. 
Additionally he’ll give you great support for a DIY  setup and of course full warranties and support for his purpose built machines. 

All the best. 

Blessed be the Cheese makers engineers.

Even though its been happening for ~3 years now I can’t help but be amazed at their dedication and the quality of the work they pump out. Surely not just a job.

I'll always remember him as THAT guy who remained upbeat despite his illness and the other problems he faced. You'll be missed Bill. RIP. 

I've been in several music cartoons; I mean bands. They weren't very funny either.

Its certainly not music or Cakewalk connected.

On 9/20/2019 at 9:13 PM, Promidi said:

This is a CAL script that I wrote that should do the task. 

After selecting all the notes, run the script.  It asks the nth number of notes to select - in your case , you enter 2

Every nth note will remain selected.

(do
    (int note_number 1)
    (int even 0)
    (int nth 2)
    (getInt nth "Please enter nth note" 2 50)
    (forEachEvent
        (if (== Event.Kind NOTE)
            (do

                (= even (% note_number nth))
                (if (== even 1)
                    (do
                    );exit do
                    (do
                        (delete)
                        (insert Event.Time Event.Chan NOTE Note.Key Note.Vel Note.Dur)
                    )
                );exit if
                (++ note_number)    
            );exit do
        );exit if
    );exit for
);exit do

I’ve named it “Select every nth note.cal” and added it into my archive which I believe includes ALL known CAL scripts and teaching resources for CAL. 
 

As I understand it not all CAL ”hooks” work any longer as it has been deprecated and only “guaranteed” to work  with the scripts that are still included with each release. Perhaps someone from Cakewalk who actually knows, could  confirm or update my understanding. I’ll add that info into my archive to accurately update it. 

I’ve used Cakewalk since the mid nineties (Cakewalk 7 when it was just a MIDI sequencer without audio recording) and it’s been my experience that for whatever reason, its always had an image problem and recognition as a top line DAW. Gibson put the final nail in the reputation coffin by the way it managed the product and despite the excellent development by Bandlab and that it can easily hold its own against all comers today, (as it could in the past pre Gibson days too) now it needs to combat the additional stigma of being a free program with all the implications that that baggage adds to its reputation. Were it open source as well as free, I think it would take on a much broader appeal.

At one time or another I’ve owned every DAW available on the Windows platform (except SaDie) and Cakewalk has been the equal of any of them. Sure on a feature by feature basis there’s always something another DAW has that seems to be the most desirable feature at the time but generally speaking Cakewalk has always been the business.

Apple’s dominance (or at least the perception of it) in the Professional Multi media space has hurt Cakewalk’s standing due to its PC only position and despite the calls to add Apple compatibility, its just never been feasible either financially or technically (It would need to be rewritten from the ground up for Apple). The DAW market just isn’t big enough to generate the sort of income that could recover the investment. A few years back one of our prominent users who now prefers Studio One, wrote extensively on the subject of DAW sales and its not the vast pool of wealth we might imagine. He didn’t publish any confidential info as he was no doubt bound by non-disclosure agreements but nonetheless his message was clear. The DAW market is just this tiny corner in the vast ocean that is the music/entertainment industry.

At this point in time Meng’s vision for Cakewalk and how it’s tied to Bandlab removes any likelihood of it becoming cross platform, nor do I think it needs to. It obviously fulfils his need and how he purposes it to be now and how it will be going into the future.

For now be glad that such a remarkably capable DAW continues to be free yet developed extensively and continually by a dedicated team some of whom can claim decades of working with Cakewalk’s code.

Congratulations (To Noel & team)  on another great release. More than that though; I’m blown away by the extent of involvement by the devs especially post release and the speed with which they respond to questions and problem solving. 

Anybody would think Cakewalk is a fully paid for commercial product with a large development budget. This level of support far exceeds the efforts visible to users in the pre-Bandlab days. I know the team has always been fairly active on the forum but certainly not at today’s levels.

I genuinely wonder what the change has been from then (Gibson days eg) to bring about this open dialog. It’s very refreshing. 

And there’s Karen. Not heard from or about her in years. I know she went Studio One but who hasn’t at least tried that DAW or uses it along with Cakewalk or instead of.

It would be helpful to send the CrashDump to Cakewalk. It will give them invaluable insight and perhaps a way forward to remedy the issue. Cakewalk and Waves have a pretty good working relationship from my experience.

On 6/1/2019 at 3:27 AM, scook said:

The tools have been completely rewritten.  All have font support, light and dark styles. Upsample Editor now supports in table edits. VST Inventory has selectable columns.

Old Launchpad users make sure to copy "CbB Tools.exe" into the old Launchpad folder. Others may copy the "CbB Tools.exe" where ever they like such as "C:\Program Files\CbB Tools"

I will leave the old versions available as the new ones no longer support 32bit SONAR.

I added font size selection to a few of my CbB/SONAR utilities. There are updated versions of

• Launchpad - an alternative to the start screen
• Plug-in Upsample Editor - a tool to manage upsample data in Aud.ini
• Tools Editor - a program to manage the tools section of the Utility menu

available here along with a few other CbB/SONAR related things. The utilities are about half way down the page. As always, if there are questions or issues with anything on the page just let me know.

Enjoy

Edit: Launchpad v1.6 released 14 Aug 2019

Edit: Launchpad v1.7 released 24 Sep 2019

Edit: Launchpad v1.8 released 25 Sep 2019

Edit: Launchpad v1.9 released 2 Dec 2019

Edit: ToolsEditor v1.3 released 31 Dec 2019

Edit: Launchpad v1.10 released 12 May 2020

Edit: Launchpad v1.11 released 14 Aug 2020

Edit:  v2.0 of all tools released 18 Mar 2021

Edit: v2.0.1 through v2.0.4 released 19 Mar 2021 

Edit: v2.0.5 released 20 Mar 2021

Edit: v2.0.6-2.0.7 released 21 Mar 2021

Edit: v2.0.8 released 1 Apr 2021

Thanks for the update. BTW, an interesting date choice to release the update. Cheers. 

17 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Yep, the 6 month refresh requirement is about my only gripe coming from an easy unlimited off-line install scenario that never needed to check in or phone home.

I’m not in front of my DAW at the moment so cant confirm, but I think that recently this was changed and the 6 month authorisation refresh is no longer required.  Happy to be proved wrong but...

UPDATE:

Here’s a direct copy of the pinfold regarding Single Sign On which I believe removes the need for a deliberate action every 6 months to reauthorise Cakewalk.

Feature in the most recent Cakewalk Update. (2021.01 Update 1)

SSO (Single Sign-On) for Cakewalk activation

Cakewalk supports SSO (Single Sign-On) for activation, which allows you to log in via any service supported by BandLab as your sign-in authority. Google, Facebook, Apple ID, mobile phone and BandLab user/password credentials are currently supported.

SSO is only used for Cakewalk activation, and under normal circumstances you will only need to sign in once. Cakewalk will attempt to refresh your activation status silently and automatically on occasion during start up. Use the SSO login as you have done with your BandLab account in the past.

Note that BandLab Assistant is still required for requesting offline activation of Cakewalk on computers that don’t have an Internet connection.

If you’re able to hear Cakewalk then the data is going through a “sound card” of some sort even if it’s only the onboard sound chips embedded in every laptop for listening to audio files and streaming  services eg YouTube, Spotify etc. 

Quality will suffer as compared to a dedicated external “sound card” or audio device and you will need to select the correct audio driver mode for your onboard sound device. 
 

On 3/26/2021 at 8:59 PM, Will_Kaydo said:

Yes,  thanks on the tip. I completely disabled it with the following steps. 

1: Open Start.

2: Search for gpedit. 

3: Under ADMINISTRATIVE TENPLATES: Browse the Windows component tab and click on Microsoft Defender Antivirus folder without expanding the tab. Information on the right side should pop up.

4: On the right window:  Double-click the "Turn off Microsoft Defender Antivirus policy." 

5: Select the Enabled option to disable Microsoft Defender Antivirus. 

6: Click the Apply button.

7: Click the OK button.

So now you don’t have any virus protection. 
If you had followed the advice given you would still have full virus protection and your original problem would be dealt with appropriately. Rather than the blunt instrument of fully disabling Windows Defender. 

9 hours ago, paulo said:

Thank you for sharing the contents of your folder.

Not everyone would have done that.

 

It wasn’t really “my” folder as I saw it. 
 

With many decades of association with Cakewalk, Sonar and the forum I came to realise, as did many others, that there were valuable resources referenced in the various threads. Much of those resources were utilities and other content files that could benefit more users if only there was a single place where they could be accessed.
So while it was my OneDrive space where the files were all stored at the beginning,  the data actually belonged to the various contributors who made it available to share. 
I simply set up a library of sorts.
While I had a vision that it could be much much more, unfortunately I was never in a position to have direct dialogue with any decision makers. Simply stated, not a single one of my requests to engage in dialogue was ever answered. 

 

On 3/17/2021 at 6:49 AM, John said:

The Hosts had no personal control over what was uploaded or where it was stored. I'm not sure where you got the idea we had such control. Any host could moderate any forum.

I was the Host who oversaw that particular part of the forum. Gibson wouldn’t give us any space for storing any content. 
Initially, after Karen setup up the threads I was provided Host status  over that area only. I had no Host privileges or access to other parts of the forum, only the first 2 threads. 
 

Any contributions that were made in the form of files like skins, programs eg. scooks many contributions of Sonar utilities and many file contributions from others were all stored on my personal OneDrive account. 
I provided links (to my OneDrive Acct) for the files that were embedded in those threads so people could freely access them. When I decided to stop providing the oversight required another member (Elfinn) volunteered to take over and all the files were moved to his BOX account. I tried unsuccessfully on many occasions to engage higher ups regarding the development of this part of the site as several others saw potential in what had begun, sadly I didn’t even get to have meaningful with anyone in authority. My status as a Host was so constrained, I did’t even have the means to engage in online meetings with the other Hosts
It remained that way until the old forum was archived. 
You can still go to the old forum and you’ll see that in the Studio/Software forum the first thread, Sonar and Cakewalk by Bandlab Resources and Utilities then a further thread where Submissions could be made. 
The main thread was permanently locked so that only Elfinn and or myself could update li is etc. The second thread was a place where a forum member could submit a program, link or other file fir evaluation and possible inclusion in the main thread.  

All the best Bill. Hope things go well for you. 

The inescapable truth of these tests is that there’s a bunch of old farts in the Coffee House. 
 

Psstt!

Did you hear the one about... Oh, that’s right, you can’t hear... fade to silence. 

Nice to see that there’s finally a place for sharing Content created for Cakewalk. 
That type of provision was reasonably well supported by Sonar users in the old forum, but lacked any real support from the company as any shared files were stored personally by those moderating that particular forum. 
 

Perhaps now that it’s a Bandlab promoted space (I think) users can get the full benefit of company support for maintaining it. 
 

I hope it goes well.