Mark Morgon-Shaw

From Google " VCA stands for Voltage-Controlled Amplifier. VCA faders were originally found on hardware mixing desks. They allowed the user to control the volume levels of several mixer channels with only one fader. To assign channel faders to a VCA fader, the respective channels must be physically connected with the VCA fader." I've never had a desk or a DAW with VCA faders so I genuinely dont get how this is any different from a bus ?

Ha...you know I never realised you could create a new Aux or Bus from that dropdown. I said earlier in the thread there should be a " create bus from secected tracks " as one of the right click options but I guess that's a moot sugestion when you know where it actually is located. My bad. Surely this gives the functionality the Op wants ?

Yes, Noel was asking for users to say how they thought it should work a little while ago.

I'm sure there's already a staff view ? I seem to recall I looked at it once in the 90s..it had all these squiggly lines and symbols on it and stuff.

This is great, love the nested folders...finally ! Thanks team. I will test them to destruction on the next couple of tracks. I think someone else mentioned it but a visual indication that a folder contains sub folders would be a nice to have when the folder is collapsed.

Ha - When did that appear ? Using CBB daily and I've not had a notification yet

If you read through all of them , most Feature Requests tend to be small and fairly specific to a certain user's workflow or personal preferences. A lot of them don't serve the wider user base and never get implemented. However there are certain requests that appear time after time, some going way back in the old forums. 1. Built in Sampler 2. Chord Track 3. Nested / Sub Folders Due in next release ! 😃 Are there any other features that have been requested on a regular basis ? And is there likely to be progress on the above ?

Whatever's easiest. Quicker to buy another screen or two than wait for a feature that may never be made

That's fine but you were complaining about not having enough screen space - more screens is the solution in that scenario I would still recommend a 2nd because a 2 screen setup is far more ergonomic and will speed up your workflow. Track view on one screen, console on another.

I reccommend buying at least a 2nd one for serious DAW work, they are so cheap nowadays. I'm not sure how much work you do but I write, mix and master at least 100 tracks per year for TV so I am all about workflow and producivity.

I have a 3 screen setup so screen space is not an issue for me. It's just easier to show everything closed for clarity. I understand I just don't think it's needed. YMMV

Closed ? Do you mean the Pro-Channel ? I never have it open because I don't really use it very much. All I use is the HP & LP filter from the EQ. I normally do that in the Inspector on the track view because I do it when I add the instrument. I mix as I write as it's quicker and I do most of the mixing in the track view. Cakewalk never had a Pro-Channel when I started using it more seriously, so I have my own preferred plugins for everything. But you can open and close all Pro-Channels simultaneously using the quick groups.

You dont need to open another window. They are right there on the same screen if you want them to be.

Not at all - I'm just putting forward a reasoned counter argument as someone who uses Cakewalk a lot more than most. Any bus created is automatically routed to the Master bus by default.....where else do you want it routed ? I see no extra steps here ? As mentioned I've never used Cubase. I've tried S1 - Reaper - Bitwig - DP - Logic - PT - Garageband - Mixcraft - Samplitude and was long time Music X user, so no I don't know the advantages of a Group Track as offered in Cubase..the guy in the video called it a bus ...so I presume it's very similar. If it isn't you haven't exapined how or why it's different and what the percieved advantages are. New track types are rarely introduced into mature DAWs and there's good reason for it. I don't think there are any more steps..maybe one step at most, which could be elimintated by adding a right click option to create new bus from selected tracks. Faster still would be using a project template with everything bussed the way you want it. So ulitmately you have a lot less steps over the course of multiple projects. The layout of channels and busses follows the paradigm of harware mixer topology, so it makes sense from that perspective.

It's not really a one click process according to the video. Once the selection is made... Right Click on one of the selected..that's one Choose Add Group Channel to Selected Chanels ...two Choose Stereo or Mono...three Name it and press OK...four clicks...you could argue it's maybe 3 if it defaults to stereo and you don't need to select it. .....VS CBB Insert Buss...one Make track selection ( we don't count this step in either example ) Click Tracks from the header menu...two Click Selected Track Outputs..three Select buss from dropdown and click OK ..four...so it's maybe 1 click more at most. If you have a template with busses already set up ( like I have ) then it's only 3 steps. Seems to me that the steps are pretty similar in both DAWs, they are just in a different order so I'm not sure it warrants a whole new breed of track types being introduced. If you feel the above is too many steps then something that doesn't involve any major changes to the DAW but would endhance the workflow in this scenario would simply be to add a new entry to the right click menu in the track area. " Add Selected Tracks To New Buss " then it would simplify the process without adding more complexity.

I've never used Cubase as it requires a dongle even for a trial. Although I gather that might be changing going forward.Is this what you mean ? I mean that's pretty much the same as creating a buss in CBB . The only difference I can see is it creates the buss from the selection instead of how you would do it in CBB by creating the buss first and then assigning which ever tracks you want to it. The number of steps required looks about the same , you just do them in a different order. My busses are in my default template so I never need to create them anyway. Just select my tracks the exact same way as the Cubase guy, go to tracks - selected track outputs and it's done. I don't see much difference betwen the two workflows.

I am not sure we need more than the tools already available. You can already create Quick Groups and easily route audio through Busses or Aux Tracks like you say, and you can also assign tracks to Folders. How would a Group Track make this already simple process easier ?

I never use the Pro Channel. Except for the EQ HP & LP filters - I wish you could access them without opening the PC ( like on 8.5 ) - you can adjust the other 4 bands from the mini plot but for some reason the filters !! Yet the filters would be very easy to use even from the mini EQ plot. Annoying,

I suppose you could argue that's what the Track Manager is for but I agree it's a more ergonomic way of working although I might want a better visual indication that it's a folder. I'm sure someone could design a decent graphic.

Get 3rd monitor 😃

A macro creator within CBB would be amazing

Yes. I use a StreamDeck https://www.elgato.com/en/stream-deck

Make a macro

Yes I know. Not what this FR is about.