Doug Rintoul

1 hour ago, Niky Serrano said:

Classics never die 😄

Does that mean Larry and Fleer will never die?

3 minutes ago, daveiv said:

GigaSampler is a thousand times better already!

With a name like GigaSampler, are you sure it is not a billion times better already?😉

5 hours ago, User 905133 said:

PSP Ultimate for $33?   That has to be a mistake (discount on top of a discount).  If I didn't have it, I would have hit buy before posting this.

EDIT: TIP: You can use an instance of VM in Cakewalk (and I assume other DAWS) with some of the modules from the PSP bundle as a modular effects rack, complete with modular (i.e., cabled) controls--if you like  what PSP does and wiring stuff together. 

Correction: Since Cherry Audio has it for $33, it can't be a JRR mistake.  JMO: $27.27 is a deal on top of a deal on top of a deal. (See cclarry's post below.)

That is a great price! I paid $69 for it in 2019, and I thought it was a great deal back then.

2 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

  Where are people finding the full set of multis?  All I can find is the set of 30 that came with Syntronik 2 Full.

I hope I don't have to de-authorize CS, SE, and Full, remove all the content, and start all over installing all 33 Instruments one-by-one using the Product Manager.  That would also require deleting tons of Syntronik files from my PC and still risk not getting the multis.  😞 

Were you able to download the Zip file with all the multis?

14 minutes ago, abacab said:

OK, I confirmed this by installing my two missing instruments. The multi loads fine now!

Of course, I wish that Syntronik 2 threw an error regarding missing instruments instead of just crashing.

Or even better, hide the multis that don't have the required instruments installed, or at least provide that option.

14 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said:

Great news! I am not seeing it in my account yet. I haven't downloaded any of the synths yet, so that might explain it. Is it under Syntronik 2 CS - Download ressources?

I had to go to the website and bring up My Products to see this message. It was not in Product manager.

10 minutes ago, JoeGBradford said:

Thanks - Do I have to add and download replacements to my old synths to get the new Syntronik 2 presets? - I think I read earlier that I would not need to re download these

Edit - I've bitten the bullet and bought!

I did not have to download replacements. The S2 versions of the S1 synths are a separate entry in Product Manager. I just installed them.

1 minute ago, JoeGBradford said:

Tallied up and I'd get 15 new synths so still a very good deal! The promised multis are a sweetener too. 

You get 15 new synths plus all your S1 synths get additional S2 presets with additional features like the ability to edit preset wave sets (which is a new feature).

22 minutes ago, TicoJPunk said:

So radio silence from IK on these Multis so far, huh?

It is the weekend. I would not expect anything until tomorrow.

20 minutes ago, Frank said:

Done. 32 freebies reached 

I wonder how the multis will be made available.

20 minutes ago, cclarry said:

I'm quite happy to have been wrong!  YAY!

I don't mind being wrong, if it is for a good cause.

5 hours ago, LAGinz said:

Are you sure about the need to keep around the old 1s, if we have the same synth in 2 configuration? I thought Peter said that installation of the 2 version did not actually modify the 1 version installation, but instead provided an entirely new download , which included 1and 2 instrument presets. Peter?

Let me try to clear this up. If you already have S1 synths installed for, example in your SampleTank 3 folder, which is the default for S1 synths, then when you install the S2 version of the S1 synth, it only installs the extra needed files in the S2 locations. The Product Manager will not nor does it need to download the S1 files. However, in this scenario, you need to keep the S1 sounds around. But there are no duplicates because S2 is using the already installed S1 files. If you do what Abacab did and use a completely new Syntronik 2 content folder for all things Syn2 and reinstall all the S1 synths, then there will be duplicates until you delete the original S1 files. Also, as Abacab has stated, you will not be able to use the S1 synths in SampleTank 3 if that is important to you.

I have them all now! All I need now is for it to go all the way to get the multis. 176 to go!

2 minutes ago, JoeGBradford said:

Many thanks Doug - most helpful!

To be clear, you do not have to install all the synths. If you are short on disk space, you can install just the ones you are interested in.

17 minutes ago, JoeGBradford said:

I'm increasingly tempted - I have Syntronik 1 which I picked up through TS Max 2 and Syntronik 2 CS. What are the benefits of getting the Group Buy - other than the extra synths over Syntronik 1 - I'm concerned about all the extra disk space required! Wil I be able to uninstall the Syntronik 1 synths once I have all the Syntronik 2 ones? I'm a hobbyist who only has a small amount of time to spend making music so want to know that my money is well spent 🙂

There are only 11 purely Syntronik 2 synths. The Syntronik 1 synths in S2 use the original samples plus additional S2 stuff like wave sets. So if you want to continue using upgraded S1 synths like Blau, or DCO-X, you will need to keep the S1 sounds around. You could uninstall the S1 engine, but that probably would not save a significant amount of disk space compared to the amount of space used by the samples. For reference, S2 has added about 133GB of data to my system. I still have two more synths to pick up in the GB. 

For what it is worth, I hope this information is helpful. I was able to get a user pattern to show up in ModoBass 2. I named a midi file Pop_Solo_Finger_10_4-4_132_G-_Doug.mid and placed it in /Documents/IK Multimedia/MODO BASS 2/Patterns/. I then loaded ModoBass 2, went to patterns and filtered the patterns on Pop/Solo/Finger/10 Bars. This is what I see...

As you can see, my pattern does show up. However...when I click on my pattern, I get the following message...

So it would appear that the CS version does not support user patterns.

2 hours ago, User 905133 said:

Another issue (in addition to a tendency to focus on negativity), is that earlier posts get "lost." I suspect my post from 4 hours ago (citing the same portion of the MB2 Manual) got "lost" because JT Music's reply (which I responded to in such a way to try to avoid seeing another round of JT v. Peter "Are We Gonna Go There Again?") was replied to by Peter and then JT again and then . . . .

This is my mistake. I missed the fact that your quote was from the manual and that you had attempted to unsuccessfully add patterns to CS. I did truly think I was being helpful when I quoted from the manual. All I can say is sorry.

2 hours ago, User 905133 said:

as if to say the good-cop-bad-cop thing was an attempt at humor. 

Sorry, my humour detector is on the blink. I apologize for escalating this unnecessarily. 

4 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

Thanks for sharing this additional information.  I would still be interested to know if the ability to use user patterns (as described in the MODO BASS Manual) has been incapacitated in MODO BASS 2.  Not expecting you to know, @cclarry, but maybe another MODO BASS CS user knows if it can be done, and if so how to do it. 

This is from the MODO Bass 2 manual:

10.2 – Importing your own patterns
If you would like to save patterns you create with MODO BASS 2 inside the application so that they appear in
the patterns section, you should name them as follows:
Genre_Section_Playstyle_Bars_Signature_BPM_Key_Song Name.mid
See the following examples for detailed naming:
Pop_Bridge-1_Pick_4_4-4_144_C#-_Marshall.mid
Pop_Bridge-1_Finger_8_4-4_132_G-_Strike.mid
Pop_Bridge-2_Finger_8_4-4_132_G-_Strike.mid
Pop_Solo_Finger_10_4-4_132_G-_Strike.mid
Rock_Verse-1_Pick_4_4-4_147_A-_Darkness.mid
Rock_Verse-2_Pick_4_4-4_147_A-_Darkness.mid
Rock_Bridge-1_Pick_4_4-4_110_Bb_Speedway.mid
Soul_Intro-1_Finger_8_4-4_126_Eb-_Soulmate.mid
Jazz_Bridge_Pizzicato_2_6-8_75_E_DB Sunny.mid
Rockabilly_Intro_Slap Double Bass_2_4-4_180_E_DB Graffiti.mid
Ballad_Chorus-1_Finger Fretless_2_4-4_80_Bb_FL Hat.mid
Pop_Verse-1_Slap Fretless_2_4-4_80_C_FL Hoodie.mid
Pop_PreChorus-1_Pick Fretless_2_4-4_80_E-_FL Push.mid
Then, move them inside the following folder:
/Documents/IK Multimedia/MODO BASS 2/Patterns/
These will appear in the Patterns section as well as in the pattern menu in the bottom bar once the application is
relaunched.

6 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

My point here (which you did not address) is that Peter did not have to get into another volley as he claimed.  He chose to escalate the "debate."

Okay, I will address this (and to be clear, I do agree with a lot of what you said above) . I think it would be very hard not to engage when someone makes negative comments about you and the company you represent, especially if you are passionate and care about your reputation. I know I would have a problem letting a detractor have the last word. I really don't feel that Peter was exploiting the debate.

17 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I regret that you have brought up "subscribing to a conspiracy."  I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories.  I was making a point which I thought was quite unique. I don't know that anyone else has ever made that connection. If there others, I have no knowledge of them.  😉 

Okay, subscribing  was maybe the wrong word mainly because the conspiracy did not exist yet. But I did not and still do not feel that Peter's motives for responding to JT was in order to get more publicity, bad or good. 

12 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I am sure you are aware (1) that I appreciate Peter's efforts on behalf of consumers (because I am pretty sure you have read posts where I said as much), and (2) that I appreciate many of the fine qualities of IK products (again because I am pretty sure you have read my posts to that effect).

To be honest, this fact was not in my field of vision. The tendancy of us humans is to focus on the negatives, and so no matter how many positive things have been said in the past, it is the negative that sticks out. So it is good you pointed out you past responses.

Your point about support in the forum is well taken. It is appropriate for issues to be highlighted when discussing a product. But I don't think we should be treating this like a support forum and demanding responses and solutions to our issues. I know it is frustrating, especially if official channels are not working. Having said that, I do appreciate knowing that I am not alone in my issues and have appreciated the solutions others have come up with in the past.

6 minutes ago, Vernon Barnes said:

I agree, but you can add your own patterns to EZ keys.  There are (were?) even third party patterns on sale but they did not seem to catch on.

Thanks for the clarification. The ability to add your own patterns could be a feature request for MODO Bass and MODO Drums for that matter. 

2 hours ago, JT music said:

The only real benefit is for IKM that it tempts you to keep buying more bass models and get more patterns, which by the way very unattractive and tempting seem to be those of the CS version.

Why is this an issue? Toontracks' whole strategy is based on this premise. You don't see people complaining that they have to pay for new instruments or patterns and can't add their own patterns to EZBass, or EZKeys. 

10 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I disagree. Unless you are admitting that I am right about the good-cop-bad-cop marketing strategy being intentional and your job duties mandate that you engage in this confrontive promotional campaign for the sake of sales.  

Let me ask: Why did you tell us that the issue with some of the SYN2 instruments not being installed properly was fixed when it was first reported?  You said that in January (IIRC) and repeated that here a few weeks ago when it was clear to multiple users here that it was not fixed. Not only that, but users here tracked down the source of the issue while you were maintaining it had been fixed when first reported.   Clearly support knew about the issue, let it remain, and you told us it had been fixed.

You chose not to reply to the specific evidence users here presented.

You also chose to reply once again to JT Music.

I am calling them as I see them.  You intentionally violated a polite request.  You did not have to escalate the Peter v. JT Music debate. Very regrettably I have to conclude that the dictum "When it comes to publicity, there is no such thing as bad news" has been extended to "Good-cop-bad-cop style marketing is good for sales."

That's the way I see it based on this repeated behavior.

   

Some of your points are valid, especially wrt the issue with some of the SYN2 instruments having misformed zip files.  Actually I am only aware of one instrument, the Syner-V.  However, Peter was probably going off what support had told him. And as frustrating as this may be, this is not a support forum.

But I think  you are off base here with the good-cop-bad-cop accusation. I think you are subscribing to a conspiracy that does not exist. I also disagree with the dictum that there is no such thing as bad news, especially in this case. Good public relations is important and Peter has done a damn fine job of that over the years. He has been patient many times when false accusations have been flung his way and has tried to de-esecalate situations with humour do varying degrees of success. I really cannot see him resorting to tactics that you are ascribing to him.

4 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

Help me understand, because it is too confusing for my old man brain.  If I have MODO DRUM 1.0 [with the 1.5 software update], and I get MODO DRUM 1.5 SE for the Memorial Day Sale Price (approx. $40 minus $12 in Jam Points = $28), what more would I get (drum kits, features, etc.) with the $80 version of MODO DRUM 1.5?  

That is my question too. To put it in simpler terms, does Modo Drum 1.0+ Modo Drum 1.5 SE=Modo Drum 1.5 Full?

2 hours ago, cclarry said:

$60?

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