Bill Phillips

On 10/14/2022 at 5:00 PM, Glenn Stanton said:

i went through and removed every ASIO driver that various software had installed: ASIO4ALL, Generic Low Latency ASIO, MAGIX 2016, etc... even my UMC driver. i think 8 total. then i reinstalled my UMC, and the ASIO4ALL (2015 release).

oddly enough, most of the amp sims (TONEX, TH-U, Guitar Rig, and the older (32-bit) standalone keyboard apps all play very nicely with low latency on the ASIO4ALL and are worse on the UMC and the WASAPI. long buffer delays (even when trying to set them low), stuttering, crackling.

but then, when i play them through CbB - ASIO4ALL - not bad but not great latency, WASAPI exclusive - nice, better latency, WASAPI shared - pretty much the same as exclusive, and UMC - best. low latency, no stuttering and crackling.  generally speaking i've seldom used the ASIO4ALL but when using my standalone apps, i've made it the default for those.

How do you find ASIO drivers? I have two I know of Focusrite and MOTU but neither are identified under Control Panel > Programs and Features. I searched Programs and Features for ASIO and found none. I have 390 programs installed.

20 hours ago, azslow3 said:

Finally someone is seriously working to stop VST... I hope that happens soon. There is no reason to allow one company have power to enforce own rules on "standard interface" between hosts and plug-ins which have nothing to do with the company.

Don't forget ASIO.?

3 hours ago, Milton Sica said:

I share what I got and I think it will meet my main objective now, which is to have a comparison between my MIX and a CHOSEN MIX.

Follow my step by step.

1) In a project I created 2 tracks that I called: MY MIX and REFERENCE.

2) I created a STEREO BUS where I put the VOXENGO SPAN.

3) On track 1 (MINHA MIX) I put the created STEREO BUS as OUTPUT.

4) Track 2 (REFERENCE) I put SPAN 2 - INPUT 4 as SEND.

The basic VOXENGO SPAN settings I made:

1) I used the STEREO-MASTERING preset.

2) In ROUTING in the INPUT ROUTING option, in addition to L/R that appear in 1/2, I informed 3 in IN3.

3) In GROUPS ASSIGNMENTS I entered G-3 in 3.

The visual and sampling time settings I did to my liking.

The important thing now is that, after including an EQ on track 1 (MY MIX), I can now visually move my MIX closer to the REFERENCE I chose.

Hope this helps more forum friends.

Sorry, I haven't used SPAN for a while but I'll guess based on my memory (almost always a bad idea):

1. Inputs 1&2 are the stereo input to the track the that SPAN is plugged into, in your case I'd suggest the MY MIX or REFERENCE tracks. 
2. You don't need a SPAN bus, but, if you want to create a SPAN stereo bus, route the send from either your REFERENCE or MY MIX tracks to the input of the SPAN bus.
3. Yes, that should work if you keep the STEREO BUS.  See 2 above.
4.  Yes, either that or 3. Only one should be available.

SPAN

1. I didn't use factory presets but recall that they worked pretty well
2. Internal SPAN routing was always confusing (trial and error) for me, but in the end it worked.
3. Ditto group assignments.

Sounds like you were happy with the results. So call it done.

7 hours ago, Milton Sica said:

Could you do a step of how you managed to do the visualization?
I'm trying to compare my mix to a reference mix.

I'd suggest you search YouTube. I've seen a couple of really good YouTube videos showing how to  setup span for mixing and mastering but it's been a while. 

I use both the PDF & ofline HTML versions a lot. I seldom use the website because of the (cumbersome to me) Google search tool.

The offline HTML is the easiest for me to navigate and the PDF is the easiest to search.

On 9/3/2022 at 12:56 PM, Cactus Music said:

Is there a reason you want to use the pro channel ?  I always put my compressor in the track effects bin. I prefer to use specific compressors and in the bin they are visible in console view 

PC (ProChannel) is also visible in Console View and has a couple of nice compressors. PC also has a bunch of presents to audition if you choose to use them.

32 minutes ago, Kevin Perry said:

Ctrl-Windows-S launches the speech recognition wizard, so my guess is a sticky key on the keyboard.

I definitely considered that but decided it's not the problem. It hasn't stuck with any other keyboard shortcuts. I use Windows keyboard shortcuts frequently. So I think I'd be seeing other examples.

What did I do to, apparently, activate Windows Speech Recognition? Starting a couple of days ago while working in Cakewalk the "Welcome to Speech Recognition" dialog shown in the screenshot popped up when I used the CTRL + S attempting to save the project I was working on. I may have preceded the CTRL + S with another keyboard shortcut my mistake. The Spacebar Play/Stop keyboard shortcut quit working at the same time. For a while I couldn't use either CTRL + S to save or Spacebar to Play/Stop.

Since then it happens nearly every time I'm using Cakewalk. The keyboard shortcuts CTRL + S and Spacebar work as they should for a while until the "Welcome to Speech Recognition" dialog opens for CTRL +S. I'm positive that I'm not pressing Win + CTRL + S when this happens. Also, the Spacebar Play/Stop shortcut doesn't always stop working.

Eventually both commands begin working again. It's as if Cakewalk has lost the focus and clicking on it or in it doesn't restore the focus for some time.

Things I've done that haven't solved the problem

1. I've verified that "Run Speech Recognition at startup" is not ticked.
2. I'll open Task Manager and cancel Speech Recognition which has sometimes seemed to persist after I've closed the "Welcome to Speech Recognition" dialog is closed.

5 hours ago, José Pedro Barbosa said:

I have the same issue. In my case, I use a 28" 4K – 3840×2160 – monitor I normally run at 150% scaling (that is, simulating the workspace a 2560×1440 resolution would normally give at 100%). Size is just about right for me, but the fact that Cakewalk is DPI unaware is bothering me a bit, since it looks particularly blurry on my screen. My other PC, a Surface Pro 8 running at 2880×1920 with 200% scaling (1440×960 workspace), actually looks fine, since the pixelation doesn't bother me at that size and 200% gives me no blur, but I'd still like a crisper look. I came here looking for answers, but I guess this has been an issue for a long time with no solution in sight.

Have you tried 100% scaling? I have a 38" 3840x1600. I use it at 100% scaling and have no trouble with legibility or blurriness in Cakewalk or anything else. I'm guessing that the text size would be a little smaller on a 32" but it may not be noticeable.

47 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

You clicked on the "b rock" link instead of the first link (to Steve's site). I put it in there to give credit to b rock and to show the deep dive for people who wanted more info.

Glad you got it sorted. Have fun!

I think that Cakewalk's built-in arpeggiator is a sort-of-hidden powerhouse. Now, thanks to Steve, we have double the number of patterns to play with, and they are more "out there" patterns.

I need to post this info on the Cakewalk Reddit....

Thanks for clarifying. I needed that:)

10 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

Did you look at scook's site?

No. Thank you that's what I needed. I somehow went to a Project5 Technotes site instead. I don't even know how I did that.

Thanks again.

On 8/17/2022 at 8:12 AM, Starship Krupa said:

(Crossposted in the Deals subforum because there's not 100% overlap in readers)

@scook (who else?) has unearthed a file that I've been searching for for literally years: The Alesion Arps . He's been kind enough to host it for download by the Cakewalk user community. The link is to the top level of Steve's page, because it has a bunch of other stuff that Cakewalk users should know about. It's the first link on the page.

These were created in the late (lamented by many) Project5, by a user identified only as "b rock." The website goes into greater detail about the theory behind the creation (and possible application) of these patterns. They were apparently derived from the patterns built into an (unnamed) Alesis hardware synth.

To install them for use with Cakewalk, place the Alesion ARP Presets folder from the .ZIP in your C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Core\Arpeggiator Patterns\ folder.

The next time you start Cakewalk and open the built-in arpeggiator's preset browser, you'll see the new folder, and within it will be 33 subfolders, each with 15 or more new arpeggiator patterns to use. Wish we could edit them, but for now we can at least double the number of ones available to us.

Sorry, but what I find at http://project5.technetos.com/download/Alesion_PTN_Construction_Kit.zip is an Alesion PTN Construction Kit not an Alesion ARP Presets folder and what's inside are PTN files not ARP files. I don't see any other links. What am I doing wrong?

2 hours ago, dhansonnycap said:

hey, guys, is there a tool in Bandlab Cakewalk like Flex Time in Logic Pro?  Thanks

Lots of options for time manipulation, mostly 3rd party. The included audiosnap and stretching algorithms (can't think of name) will do it. As will 3rd party tools like Melodyne. 

4 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

Apologies in advance if I'm not understanding this properly!

If you're in an Envelope mode in the edit filter and you already have a segment created (by doing one of the methods we talked about in this thread), ie: you have 2 automation points, a segment, and 2 more automation points, then CTRL+drag down on the actual envelope segment itself and it should do what you're after.

Thanks. It sure does! The difference appears to be it leaves an extra pair of nodes that the region adjust tool doesn't. I guess I'd forgotten about that option since, up until recently the region adjust tool has been a more tidy option. But, I'll use CTRL+drag for now. Thanks again.

14 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Sticky-selected = track number is highighted. This is old terminology that may no longer appear in the Ref. Guide, but the functionality is unchanged for ages..

Thanks for the clarification. I think of that as selected which also makes that track the focus which highlights the track name.  Whereas changing the focus by clicking on the track name doesn't change the selection. I think of selected tracks as included in any operation whereas only one track can have the focus.

1 hour ago, msmcleod said:

FWIW - I've fixed the issue for the next release.  The tempo track envelope will now be excluded as part of the envelope selection unless you're specifically editing in the tempo track.

Thank you. I hope that means that I'll be able to click near the top of an audio track between two automation nodes on the envelope selected in the edit filter and use the automation region adjust tool that appears to drag the segment between the nodes up/down.

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

This is working as expected in the latest release for me. The time ruler selection only happens if the track is sticky-selected rather than just focused. But either way works as described in the parent track without having to open the automation lane. I don't know why it's not working in your original video clip. Can your reproduce it in a new, basic  project?

Can you define sticky-selected? Couldn't find in the local or pdf documentation.

What I'm seeing is with no track selected [track no. highlighted] or having the focus [track name highlighted] the time range on the time ruler and tempo track  are highlighted along with the audio track between the two nodes on the envelope on either side of the cursor when I click near the top of the track to engage the automation adjust tool [not sure that's the right name].

4 hours ago, Lord Tim said:

Yeah, valid points there for sure - being able to adjust multiple envelopes is a useful feature! Because I only had a single track open when I was doing this, it felt like it should do the same thing because it'd be contextual as to what envelope you'd want to adjust if I hovered over a particular track, but now I think about it, you'd lose a handy feature by forcing it to be this way. I do typically do the time range over a clip thing rather than the ruler method though.  EDIT: That said, when the cursor changes and it doesn't allow you to actually move an envelope (caused by the Tempo track), it's a bit confusing because you'd expect it to do something based on the cursor changing.

@Bill Phillips - that sorts out my question/issue. Does that apply to what you're seeing too?

Yes. I think so. To edit envelopes in multiple tracks you should be able to select them using methods other than the lasso method. I'm really fond of being able click in the top half of the clip to select the segment between the two adjacent nodes for adjusting automation. 

5 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Ok, found the issue - because you're using the time ruler for the selection, the tempo track is also being selected, and it doesn't like you altering that at the same time as another envelope.

Thank you for the detailed response and suggestions. I'm usually adjusting existing automation and don't have snap turned on. So dragging in the bottom half of clips will just add nodes. Also I don't make selections in the time ruler. I click in the top half of the clip between two nodes on the edit filter selected envelope to select the segment between the two nodes. Cakewalk adds the time ruler selection. 

5 hours ago, Jacques Boileau said:

I am talking about the next version. They have started an open beta, so anybody can try them out and report bugs, which I did. An open beta is available to anyone and usually mean that they are a month or two before a final release.

If you search this forum you will find info about it, that is how I learned of it.

You are correct that the current release (5.3.7) does not contain VST3 but the next release (5.3.8) will.

Thanks. Good to know. Thanks for doing the beta testing. I'm glad to see VST3 versions coming. 

30 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

What I'm seeing here is that if you select a time range on the ruler and then go to a specific clip and try to drag down the envelope, the cursor will change but the envelope won't move.

On the other hand, if you select a range on the clip itself and drag down, this works as expected.

Not sure if this is a bug or a counter-intuitive UI thing, honestly.  @msmcleod is this as designed?

 

Thanks.  I'm selecting the range by moving the mouse pointer up in the track to the point where the smart tool changes to the envelope adjust tool and clicking. That used to select the envelope range between the two closest nodes and allow it to be dragged up/down. Now it selects the range but won't drag it. releasing and re-clicking doesn't work either.

20 hours ago, Jacques Boileau said:

This happens with the upcoming versions of Soundtoys plugins, which will now include both VST2 and VST3. The version is not shown for both VST2 and VST3, and for some plugins both VST2 and VST3 are listed in the plugins when 'Hide Related VST2 plug-in' is ticked. I have communicated my findings to Soundtoys and they had this to say:

Are you asking about problems you've experienced with SoundToys VST3 plugins or problems you expect to experience? I ask this because I just verified that the version 5_5.3.7.16421_64 that I have for SoundToys V5.3 is the latest version available to me and it doesn't appear to include VST3. No VST3 versions installed and the installer doesn't reference an install location for VST3.

I'm asking this because I've been hoping that VST3 versions would become available but haven't found them.

1 hour ago, msmcleod said:

IIRC the only way you can ever change an envelope from the clip itself (as opposed to an automation lane) is:

1. Holding down CTRL when the cursor is near the top of the clip, which allows you to adjust the clip gain; or
2. Switching the track filter to an envelope

If you blow up the GIF you'll see I used Option 2, switching the track filter to the envelope and it doesn't work. I used to work but it doesn't work now.

Option 1 doesn't apply because I'm trying to adjust a track envelope not clip gain.

I noticed with a recent update that I could no longer use the Smart Tool to adjust envelopes over a time range in the clip pane. I now have to open the automation lane to do that. I've attached a video showing me first attempting to drag an envelope time range in the clip pane with no luck and then opening the automation lane and being able to adjust the envelope time range. Is this a bug? I'd prefer to be able to make these ends in either the clip pane or automation lane.

On 7/15/2022 at 6:53 PM, Starship Krupa said:

Hidden in plain sight, I guess, but I only discovered it today after using Cakewalk for 4+ years. A slip of the mouse and I had it.

We all know about how you can sort plug-ins in the Browser by Manufacturer, Category, and Type (which means you see them sorted into VST3, VST2, and DXi folders, and then by manufacturer within those folders). Ever wanted to see them sorted by where they are in the Windows file system? Read on.

All you have to do to see this is click on the "Plug-ins" tab at the top of the Browser, then whatever sort method it's set to, move your mouse to it and click. You'll see something like this:

It's not sorting by manufacturer, it's showing where my .VST3 files are in the VST3 directory.

As you can see, it winds up being a combination of folders that the manufacturers' installers created and then plug-ins that were installed at the root level of VST3 or whatever folder you use for VST2's.

The possible use for this that I can see is plug-in organization: you can have folders for manufacturers and then categories (which Meldaproduction already does) or even put it the other way around. I supposed there's not much you can do with it that you can't do using plug-in manager, but who knows. It might be good for helping track down where a plug-in's DLL actually is. It uses the friendly names from inside the file rather than the filenames.

Caveats: if you decide to try using this to organize plug-in lists, sometimes plug-ins don't like being moved from their original install location. Also, plug-ins that load via a unified shell, like Waves' or Presonus', will might not appear in this view.

Note: this sorting view also switches in the FX rack and instrument menus.

Thanks for this. It's interesting but I'm having trouble understanding what I'm seeing. Here's a screenshot showing my Browser VST2 folder and the Folder holding the Pitchproof plugin which is in the pink box in the VST2 Folder in the Browser. In the Browser Pitchproof isn't in a VST2 subfolder but it is in Explorer. However the Acon Digital and AirWindows plugins are shown in subfolders as expected. What's this telling me? What am I missing? Thanks.