Terry Kelley

Not in my opinion. I want to know if PC is active if I don't have the inspector open. I want to the track to tell me. I often don't have the inspector or PC open. I don't want to use the inspector when I don't want to use the inspector LOL. But hey, what do I know, eh?

I don't think there's any risk of the developers jumping on this and doing anything.

😀

HI Mark, 

I don't see anything. Maybe I'm not being clear. In the Track View, I don't see any indication that Pro-Channel is active. You can certainly see it's active in the Pro-Channel window itself but if that is off or the Inspector window isn't open, there is nothing in the track section itself that lights up. For example, track 15 has Pro-Channel on. Maybe I'm missing something. I did switch back to stock the themes in case Flat White Matcha doesn't show it but I still didn't see anything.

How about an indicator on the track that shows that Prochannel effects are on. I sometimes start to add effects on the track and don't realize that I have some PC effects.

On 5/30/2023 at 9:44 AM, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

AI called and told you to stop using whatever controlled substance you happened to own before posting.

Or at least share.

Multi-channel VSTs care. That's how you send to specific modules/parts.

Are you talking about opening a Cakewalk project from File Explorer vs. opening it from within Cakewalk?

What version of Windows is this?

I could be typing away at the chords and lyrics of my recent opus and CTRL-S or ALT-F-S does't save the file. You have to bring the main window in focus.

It’s also called “Express Your Anger.”

I was thinking something similar for a horizontal line to allow alignment of an automation node with others in the vertical plane. It's nice that it give the value but a guide line would make it nicer.

I still use Cool Edit 2000 and have it linked into Cakewalk. Yep, 23 years later.

Think EZdrummer 3 might have some issues. I'm not having this specific problem but I get periodic crashes especially if I load additional instances. I might roll back to EZD2 and see how it acts.

Thanks for following up. Many don't.

I did that and it doesn't generate anything or act any different.

Weirdly, I added several tracks and  FX and it opens every time. I think this is another one for the vault.

Yeah Mr, Flipper. I was just wondering if he was trying to do live monitoring (input echo) rather than the input mix. I would expect there to be a delay on live monitoring. The UM2 does have direct monitoring via a button.

Well, not loading each one doesn't fix it. Only not loading all of them at once works.

Yeah, it's some unknown combination of unknown factors. That much I know.

Are you talking delays during record or playback? VST instruments or audio?

During recording, delays can occur if the processor is being ask to do too much at the same time (which is why many of us turn off effects during record.) But playback should be fine. If the processor is being asked to do too much (and the performance meters aren't a good measure of that) you will get stuttering, drop outs, distortion and other artifacts. In that case, we will freeze problem tracks to take the load off the CPU. If your buffer is large, that too will introduce delays during recording on instruments/keyboards. So turn off FX, lower the buffer size to something that doesn't start chopping up the sound, record, then turn it all back on and increase the buffer size if necessary.

Also, if you have Input Echo on Auto Thru on an audio track, your asking the processor to go fast enough to process the signal in realtime. That's often a huge challenge for the program and processor and you will get delays during recording.

But with a decent buffer size for the project and track freezing, there shouldn't be any delays especially on audio tracks since they take so little effort from the processor. It's VST FX and instruments that introduce latency that the program has to adjust for.

Of course if you have only one or two tracks, most processors (and memory) can keep up and you can get away with loading up the FX and a couple of instruments without turning things off during record. We also often run only Cakewalk and will disable Wi-fi during sessions since you don't want other programs and processes interrupting.

Finally, don’t use wireless headphones

I'll keep updating it as I try things but so far it appears to be related to where  the project sits in memory. As long as I load another project first, I can load the problem project.

1. On the harmonizer plugin, select "Enable Midi Input" on the VST2 pulldown at the top.

2. Then select "Harmonizer (requires MIDI input".)

3. On the MIDI note track, set the output to the MHarmonizerMB plug in.

Start with LOW latency but give HIGH a try (cleaner harmonies.) The harmonizer uses a lot of CPU so it might start breaking up on HIGH latency.

*Note that the harmonizer plugin will not show up in the available outputs on the MIDI note track until you enable the Midi input on the plugin.*

I've got a project that is fairly complex with many plugins and sidechains that will open completely, then after about 3 seconds I get the hour glass and it exits to Windows. There is no error and setting the sensitivity in the initialization file doesn't appear to generate anything. I have projects that are far more complex than this one that open fine. I've tried loading in safe mode and it will stay open if I excluded everything but if I exclude them one at a time (or common groups like soft synths or FX) it will crash. Only loading with no FX and synths keeps it from exiting. If I'm quick, I can start it playing but it bails out after a second or two.

I looked at the Event Viewer and see this:

2281215597166793434

4

APPCRASH

Not available

0

Cakewalk.exe

28.11.0.21

6387726b

StackHash_b4ee

0.0.0.0

00000000

c0000005

PCH_29_FROM_unknown+0x0000000000000000

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER8FF.tmp.dmp \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA29.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA39.tmp.xml \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA37.tmp.csv \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA57.tmp.txt

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Cakewalk.exe_49f901855dfc38b7a24d15255f7e2bb35cc8b_3a505869_d681d648-3951-4881-a327-ed0e0152210a

0

7c145382-c31f-4148-8404-24c905b17497

268435456

fe55d34db251ca1dcfa8817fcd3512da

0

Faulting application name: Cakewalk.exe, version: 28.11.0.21, time stamp: 0x6387726b
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.19041.2788, time stamp: 0x2f715b17
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000002faad
Faulting process id: 0xfb4
Faulting application start time: 0x01d97af031f5e7cc
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core\Cakewalk.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: 50850872-87b8-4f01-99e3-3670e499ee6d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

The C0000005 tells me someone is trying to access a memory location they aren't supposed to (that someone being Cakewalk or ntdll but it could be on behalf of a plugin.)

Any suggestions how to investigate this further? I ran the deep hardware tests and they all pass.

Terry

Edit: I got it to  open by opening two other projects with it at the same time. Well there's a usable solution! LOL. Resaving it and trying the new file didn't help.

I've used the Ample M Lite to great results with effects including overdrive. It just depends on what you want. Like running a clavinet through a Phase 90. only different ...

The fact he's using the Ample M Lite doesn't slam the door on the conversation.

Oh, I thought they wanted a slight shift, not a transpose.

Try Melda Productions MPitch. Also Pitchproof.

After a bunch of testing, I agree ... it's hype. There are certain things I like about like the three band EQ and the limiter/compressor/leveler being on each track (albeit rather hindered.) The saturation controls are interesting but not a must. But I can essentially achieve the same thing in Cakewalk even though the ProChannel takes up a lot of room. I also notice that most people record in their favorite DAW and then mix in HMB. They don't record on it.

I think one thing that fools people is they export the tracks from their favorite DAW and then wind up not putting as much FX on the tracks (by amount or quantity) and they say it sounds cleaner. Well, yeah. You didn't slather it with FXs which is very easy to do in some DAW and especially in Cakewalk.

Yes, and them saying "Every resistor, capacitor, and transistor is included in the model" is the dumbest f*@&ing thing I've heard all year. But hey, that's just me.

Thanks for the reply!

It's because you put the mic in one input of your interface but didn't change the track to record only that input. So it thinks you have a stereo input but there is nothing on one channel. You can bounce it to mono if you want.

It would help if you could tell us the instruments (VSTs) and plugins. There are plugins that inhale the processor but don't really show up in the performance monitor. Lots of experienced people here might be able to point them out.