Clovis Ramsay

@OB-Lix I have a similar issue where my tube sat and console emulator modules do not display any graphic, they are blank.  This changes once I activate the modules but as of January's release, they are graphic less modules in a new project or new track/bus.

On 5/6/2021 at 11:01 AM, Brian Walton said:

It isn't even that hard.  Just give us more ilok authorizations.

I already bought an extra copy of each, but still woudl like to not have to transfer things around as I use more than 2 computers. 

On 5/6/2021 at 12:39 PM, Paul Young said:

These really aren't Izotope plugins yet until they reflect Izotope's licensing. 

My Expo. plugins were THE FIRST to fall victim to my computer forcing in a new security framework  that caused iLok to register my pc as a new machine location.    So of course that meant losing access to any plug in offering only a single activation (ahem...Exponential       )  

I ended up having to cut the session and work day short just so I could waste 4 hours writing emails to every single vendor asking them to do me a favor essentially, by resetting my licenses. 

This makes me feel prettttty darn HEATED when the money I spent does not actually equal ownership. 
If I truly owned them, then I wouldn't have lost half a days wages begging the overlords to forgive me for my mistake that i didn't even do.  Imagine if musicians and engineers treated music in this way and could bar people from accessing their music after 2 activations.   

Yea, that would be pretty rude wouldn't it now?

On 5/6/2021 at 11:39 AM, LAGinz said:

If you’ve got R4, is there any reason whatsoever to get R2?

not if R3 has something to show forth

4 minutes ago, telecode 101 said:

hmm?? was't it that you could get all 3 exponentials for $20 not that long ago on PB?

They had a end of year Elements Bundle that included R2, Excalibur, Pheonix AND Iris 2, Trash 2.....for $49.   I didn't even care for all the elements programs,  but the 49 entry to access fee to score  the 3 Exponential and the Iris 2 & Trash 2... i mean, wow

As far as feature add-ons & instruments go, a few are exclusive to Platinum only and require Platinum to be installed, so if you must install SPLAT, do it first.  

Reason for doing CbBL last is because it writes to the Shared Utility program directory that stores the ProCh module .dlls, start screen design, menu index, and all that which is mentioned already in this thread.  If you were to install SPLAT last, you would see the Sonar logo and the older menus in CWbBL, and the ProCh modules may get fussy if they are written over with outdated version.  

I am not really all the smart though so better just take the advice of the experts!

I've been struggling to come up with something to post to annoy you all with but I guess this will do for now. 

 It's the start page from 2016 

I hope whoever came up with this design got an ice cream party or at least a drink on Gibson's tab...

2 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

I’ve been looking for something that would allow me to stream high quality stereo to a friend. The latency isn’t an issue . Something I can insert in the master output. I don’t want to have to always do a stereo mix and then send it to them via email, One Drive, etc. I hit play and they hear it some milliseconds later. 

@Terry Kelley That would be a job for OBS, except that it isn't a plug in and runs simultaneously with your DAW.   It has all of the optimization settings required to stream HQ stereo to a person on the other end of a stream. 

Open Broadcaster Software | OBS (obsproject.com)

@Glenn Stanton Indeed, by the very definition and utility of "real time", I am incorrect in advertising the VST as such.  However, I tend to generalize the term when the notion is derived from a lack of real time remote collaboration tools, so to any caveman such as I that experiences the closest to real time as one has or can....well by golly it sure would pass the real time test that I had in mind!  (most erroneously of course) ?

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

coolio - i like the idea of the tupperware to introduce velocity ?

I probably shouldn't say Tupperware because Tupperware is actually pretty thick and well made plastics (my mother still uses her 40 yr old sets lol)  I just generalize all plastic food storage containers as being "Tupperware", but what Im actually referring too are those disposable kinds made by Glaad.  They are flexible and have a bounce back response similar to a drum head and you can cut access holes for triggers or a microphone to place inside, if you're into that sorta thing. 
 

 Actual Tupperware will sound like tapping on Teflon(?) marching snare heads and will not respond dynamically....and baby boom mothers across the world will be offended by you destroying good Tupperware ?


 

SATELLITE SESSIONS PLUGIN 2.0

"Designed for you to collaborate in any DAW, at any time, anywhere."

...It's true.  And it's Free.

They did it, they are the winners of the real time remote collaboration within any DAW, both audio and MIDI, w/chat capability.  BandLab should create a plugin for a DAW to make use of its mix editor app!

@Glenn Stanton yes I am known to turn less than good drum performances and recordings into midi then played through AD2.  I also use the Addictive Trigger to replace badly tuned snares or as you have mentioned, recording myself banging on something to trigger or convert into midi.  I find Tupperware to be of great use as it reacts dynamically, giving me the velocity values I want so that the drum samples trigger accordingly.   The included MIDI packs of AD2 are also very useful in production.

It's also worth noting that you can place an ADTrigger on the AD2 snare/kick/tom outputs and utilize all of the included kit pieces that exclusive only to ADT.

....welp, seems the forum isn't signed up for that "files in a folder" kinda thing ?

I have not used the majority of them (perhaps in another life), but I do hope they bring you much joy and utility for your musical endeavors. 

Instrument Definitions Collection 

Included are several guides on working with AD2 in Cakewalk, as well as a few "Advanced Drum Editing" guides made by members of the CW team published during the SONAR era (Still relevant for current Cakewalk release as of mid 2021)

Addictive Drums 2 (Project Temp +Track Temp +Drum Map)

separate-outputs.pdf Cakewalk - Setting up a Drum Map for Addictive Drums 2 in Cakewalk.pdf

On 4/6/2021 at 4:36 PM, jono grant said:

I've got most of this info in my brain now, a few things I didn't know. 

The main thing I'm wondering is: How to get audio snap to put so many random, poor markers, right in the middle of a transient. Not even sure why it decides to put them there. It would certainly help to find a way to add the marker in a better place. 

There are a few setting variables that you can try to improve the accuracy, at least from what I've learned through other users experiences and my own experiences put to a test.  

For one, I have found that there is an optimal input gain at -8dbfs peak where my plug ins seem to work and sound their best.  This peak value always works best, in my experience at least, for transient beat detection by audiosnap.  It has far less markers landing on mic bleed transients and less "missing" markers.  If you have excessive mic bleed, then i highly suggest rendering your track with a gate to clean it up so that audiosnap will be less distracted.  

Also, define your timing resolution, tempo map, and every tool to be the same such as 1/16th, and also make sure you are setting the clip to its proper tempo in audiosnap.  I work a lot with heavy rock/punk music so I always set the tempo at double time for the metronome to tap out quarter notes for the drummer.  But audiosnap is always detecting the tempo half of what i put in so be sure to apply the appropriate one so that those markers fill out as they should.  

And remember that you can adjust parameters in the inspecter pain for each track that is audiosnap enabled.  It's been helpful many times in my hours of discontent.  Hopefully that might help with the efficiency of audiosnap, It has with mine so far but it is more likely a per user situation.

@Starship Krupa yes, I am aware of everything you’ve reiterated except for plug ins going missing from the browser.  Perhaps I have not tried enough plug ins to experience it.  
 

I knew I would eventually regret participating in the forum, I’ve lost my skills to communicate through texts.  Its become a problem with all of my texting channels.  I find it alarming considering that I have a few academic and scholastic achievements under my belt.  

22 minutes ago, John Vere said:

Best info for me was watching one of Mike's Creative sauce videos on this subject this one was great and there are others too. 

 

You know whats funny about Mike's is that he avoids a step to keep from crashing his session which is EXACTLY THE SAME FOR ME!   To be able to quantize and slip edit multiple tracks longer than 30 secs long would be an ability I have not yet experienced with audiosnap.  The future is funny like that

4 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

""Uncategorized--- those don't show up in the Browser."" 

They don't show up in the Uncategorized folder in the browser to where you can right click on the plug or multiple plugs (click + shift HOLD -> select last plug in range wanted for selection) to manually categorize it??  Thats how mine works ?
 

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"Browser itself are that it's clunky. No drag and drop, no renaming from the Browser itself. I'd like to slow click on a plug-in name to rename it. I'd like to drag a plug-in from one folder to another."

Agree!  I'd say to the developers to just rid of the internal browser altogether, it's useless in a touch screen environment which is trending hard now and cakewalk is the first and real contender in the touchscreen integration situation.   Just  needs to work with the OS explorer windows for drag drop and utilize more of a pro tools and reaper style of inserting plug ins that is quick on the fly and intuitive to routing.  Browsing just kills the work flow for me and I do not like all that space wasted on my screen.
 

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"I'd like to select multiple plug-ins (using Ctrl) and be able to either drag them to another folder or to an FX rack. Wouldn't that be slick?"

You know I wasn't aware that this wasn't a thing.   Whenever I do make a nice chain of plugin inserts, I do take advantage of saving them into racks or fx chain presets that I can automate and design my own modules.  There are several tweaking and customizing abilities that are creative and really helpful, but there are weird limitations too, the browser and the graphics are just annoyingly a decade past it's functionality.  

7 hours ago, jono grant said:

Thanks for the info Clovis, such a great feature! Though, by the time I go through and correct all the weird markers etc. it's close to the time that it takes to do it manually. I will dig in and find out what I can. Just trying to get it to work better. Cheers

JG  

I forgot to link you up with this tutorial, it's straight to the point and the only tutorial so far that gets the results you and myself are trying to achieve.  This guy is so good at and so quick that you have to slow the video down to help absorb the great knowledge he shares.

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/390-cakewalk-drum-editing-tutorial/

On 4/1/2021 at 1:13 PM, Starship Krupa said:

Yes, was it ambiguous? I, like you, would like it to function more like Windows Explorer.

I think by "CW VST layout" you mean the Plug-In Manager? The reason I don't use that for organizing my layout is because when I did, newly installed plug-ins with no category information embedded in them weren't showing up in the Browser. If I organize them in the Browser itself, I still get them in the category "Uncategorized."

Just double checking, I am far to aware that 99% of text based socializing plays out entirely in ones imagination, so Im compelled to act diligently.

Yes, I abbrv. 4 speed.  That is interesting though, I do not have or can yet recreate your exact experience with the browser, that I can so far understand exactly as being your experience anyway

On 3/22/2021 at 6:48 PM, Starship Krupa said:

Specifically the Plug-ins tabs.

Having to right click and select from a list of categories is excess hassle.

Even 3 years in to CbB, I still sometimes forget that I can't just drag a plug-in from Uncategorized to the folder where I want it.

Im confused, are you referring to the browser pane specifically?  I always go into the CW VST layout and customize my plug lists as well as exclude vst2 plug ins.  I do like that CW files most of my plug ins within cats (eq, dynamics) as most DAWs I am familiar with do not sort them in this way, that I know of at the time I've used them anyway.  I do find myself needing the browser pane to function more like OS explore windows, usually when im in a crunch.

@jono grant Here is a link to reference material for drum editing using Audiosnap in Cakewalk.  The attachment is from the Cakewalk reference guide that I extracted the chapters  on Audiosnap only.

Advanced Drum Editing Reference Material For Use In Cakewalk by BandLab

Audio Snap Reference Guide - Cakewalk by BandLab.pdf

On 3/24/2021 at 4:52 PM, jono grant said:

Hi, 

Is there a place one can go to adjust the settings of how Cakewalk will "Split clips at audio snap pool"?

Audio snap puts it's markers at the peak of the transient, I feel like that's not the best split-point when trying to quantize real drum multitracks.

Also, after splitting, it seems to put crossfades but they don't cross, so there are gaps all over the place.

Wondering if I can tweak any settings to get this working better?

 

Thanks

J

Yes there are settings in preferences, select the Advanced button at bottom of the window, then select Audiosnap which is typed in blue letters.  There you will be able to change the midi parameters and you should see crossfade settings.  There is also a prompt to change crossfade when you select the split beats button in the audiosnap window.  Quantize in the audiosnap window will also give you these options.  

I went down the audiosnap rabbithole last month to get myself back up to speen with it.  Its very confusing and is counterintuitive but if you will just take a few hours with a practice project file with drum tracks,  go in and get destructive with it.  Try everything out like one would try every door and room in a video game, learning more of what not to do and in what order sequence to do each step is how you will master the tricky and mysterious audiosnap for drum editing.  

Also, how far are you zooming in on the markers to check that they are laying on the peak and not just before?  I too thought the exact thing and found it useless until I learned that it actually butts up against it.   If you will select one drum track and hit TAB, the cursor will stop just before each transient which is great for manually slicing up tracks and a reference to checking if the markers are landing on peak or just before the transient registers above the noise floor!

 
Once I get back to my studio, I will upload several PDF tutorials with screenshots that definitely helped me out.  

As long as the software stays competitive to the other daws with its capabilities, I have no reason to feel that I am missing out on anything.  
 

Although, I do miss Logics Variation feature as it gave me a quick overview of how a song would sound and benefit from a key change while maintaining tempo, all without introducing artifacts and destroying the transits.  Thats not what the variation speed is for but it works brilliantly utilized in that way.