Noel Borthwick

@Sarah Rosen can you please share the project that exhibits the issue with us? You can "save as" a minimal version of the project to a new folder and zip it and send us a link. 

@msmcleod I think he's still using 05.

How are you moving the tracks? Copy paste or drag move / drag copy? 

There are also lots of improvements for automation copy paste in the upcoming 07 release

I replied in your other thread...

I think you were asking about sound on sound recording. Takes are only committed on stopping record so you may not be able to hear the prior loop passes until you stop. I understand what you want though...

Maybe we should allow ripple edit to be a one shot action

2 hours ago, Lee D said:

Nevermind

I think you were asking about sound on sound recording. Takes are only committed on stopping record so you may not be able to hear the prior loop passes until you stop. I understand what you want though...

3 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said:

After I installed the pre-release and started CbB and it did the scan of plugins (I have it scan on startup) I got this dialog that I haven't seen before

Didn't seem to stop it from starting and it only happened that once.  I'm pretty sure I had installed a few new plugins since the last time I ran CbB, so it's most likely related to one of them.  I tried connecting a debugger to it but wasn't able to get anything on the stack traces (my fault most likely I've been changing my Visual Studio settings to load less symbols and may have went too far).  Wish this error was more expansive and listed what returned the improper argument so I'd have a clue as to which plugin was causing the problem.

Hmm next time your see it please save a dump from task manager so we can see the context. That error typically doesn't come from our code directly but from some UI component in mfc so hard to say what caused it

1 hour ago, Paul G said:

Did the Clip Envelopes editing problem get fixed? 

I've had this problem for some time now.  Every now and the , for no particular reason, clip envelopes will not respond to the smart tool.  I have to add nodes and adjust the envelope up or down.  Typically, restarting the project will fix it but not always.  I brought this up several years ago and I think others were experiencing the same issues.

Thanks.

Paul

Pretty sure this should be good now. there were a few cases of edit issues with clip envelopes that we fixed. Please check out our and let us know if you still see issues.

I think you misunderstood. An early access build is no different from a normal release other than the fact that it isn't pushed to the entire world via BandLab assistant.
Subsequent updates will work as normal as if you had a prior release.

50 minutes ago, Grem said:

Your going to like it LT. I've been giving it a good workout since I d/l it and I am surprised. Really. Working with clips in take lanes works as expected!!! After you get the clips arranged like you want, switch to comp tool and go to town!! No more clips jumping all around. Then after you get it comped, flatten it and it's a wrap! With these improvements I would say that CbB has the best comping system/features in the business.

Haven't gotten to work with the envelopes yet. But I am very happy with what I am seeing.  : )

Good work Dev Team.

With this release we focused on allowing lanes to be used as an arrangement tool in addition to comping. Ideally I think the feature could be called something like "track lanes" as opposed to take lanes now, since its not restricted to the recording workflow. You are free to use lanes as a scratchpad for different variations of track ideas whether they come from actual recorded takes or from  other sources (clips in project, imported files etc). With the enhanced drag and drop and copy paste functionality all operations are now fully integrated with lanes so should work seamlessly. When dragging in other data you can choose to disable the comping features and arrange the clips in any manner before you decide to start the comping process. 

You can also choose to layer and have audio clips in lanes sound simultaneously if that's what you want in this workflow. In fact for those who used the old pre-X series layers, you should now be able to do all of that and more by using the tools appropriately.

There are also big improvements to automation lanes and clip envelopes when doing copy paste between tracks or lanes that should make editing with automation lanes a smoother experience.

Additionally thanks to a report from one of our users, we fixed a longstanding issue with recording in take lanes that would end up with incorrectly cropped clips in lower lanes. Overall we hope you will find arrangement and comping in tracks to be a much more enjoyable and intuitive experience in this update.

Let us know if you see any issues.

11 hours ago, msmcleod said:

I've just spent the last hour messing around with various settings.

One post on the Avid forum suggested it was Intel Turbo Boost causing it, but disabling it in the BIOS makes no difference for me.

I can usually make this happen reliably by quickly stopping/starting the transport repeatedly. It'll happen around 1 out of 5 times doing this when my usual ASIO buffer setting of 64. When it's set to 32, I get it 2 out of 3 times. Obviously in normal use, it's a lot less frequent than this - I quite often use a buffer setting of 32 for recording piano, and I can go several hours with it happening only once or twice in normal use.

However, I failed to get the motor-boating with a buffer of 128 or higher.

So I think the answer is to use a larger ASIO buffer, and if necessary use the PDC button when tracking. If you really need to use a lower buffer, then just accept the buzz might come along now and again.

[Edit] - It's worth mentioning I've only ever heard of this happening with the Scarlett interfaces. I certainly don't get this with any of my other interfaces.

Thanks Mark that really looks like there is some bad state management in the driver itself. When you stop and start the transport cbb goes through and starts and stops the driver. I've seen cases in the past where some drivers don't properly handle fast transitions and are likely failing one of the state transitions. I'll see if I can repro it with your recipe with the 6i6

4 hours ago, Stephen Ajewole said:

Nice! Any word on when the official release will be out? 

Very soon assuming no regressions are reported.

@Keni there is no need to roll back to install the early access since it updates the 05 release directly. The only mention of rollback was to inform people if they wanted to go back to 05 afterwards for some reason. Going to the final release from early access should be seamless. The only small downside is it will auto download the full installer.

This is very stable at this point so it should be very unlikely.

41 minutes ago, parboo12 said:

Unfortunately, the buzz, or motorboat situation with the play transport is still happening.

I am using a Focusrite 18i8 2nd gen with a i7 8700, 16 gig, all drivers updated. Buzz has been with me for about 6 months now, I think.

I have not encountered this personally. Do you have any more specifics to reproduce the problem @parboo12?

Hm I'm using a Focusrite 6i6 daily for development and have never seen this issue. I really doubt its related. My only guess is that something in the app has crashed and is unresponsive to transport commands. Does it happen in all your projects or only some and how often?

Regarding the clip issue please see if its still happening in our new early access release since there are many changes and fixes to take lanes.

Very unlikely to be a CbB issue. When it crashes does it list the drumagog vst in the crash dialog?
If its crashing when Drumagog is hosting a vst the crash is possibly due to it corrupting memory. Cbb is not aware of what the plugin is doing at that point.

Have you turned on Scan in sandbox in the VST preferences?

This is described in the abot the early access program topic:

Cakewalk will present an "Update Available" notification when the final release version becomes available, if Notifications are enabled

If it's taking that long there is certainly something environmental. You can troubleshoot it by watching the start up toast notifications. Which one stays on the screen the longest? If you record a screencap of the launch process it may be helpful for us to see what's taking time.

Thanks for the report! We'll fix it for the next release.

MIDI doesn't have any notion of automation envelopes. When you open a pure MIDI file as opposed to importing it, we import MIDI CC events as is and also allow you to save the project back as a MIDI file. However any edits you made to the project that are not native to MIDI will be lost or converted. In the case of automation there is no such thing as envelopes in MIDI so Cakewalk converts the envelope to MIDI CC's (decimates into points to be more accurate) to represent the envelope as closely as it can. This is a one way conversion process and not a design flaw. When you open the MIDI file it will import back as MIDI CC's again.

If you want to work with non destructive data save your project as a CWP file not a MIDI file, as scook recommended.

You can switch the edit filter back and forth from clips or automation by shift clicking the clip or the envelope.

I didnt even know that code still exists. I don't see why it would need to take a snapshot on each open of the view since we generally know when plugin parameters are changed - at least for most plugins.

Thanks for the input folks. Sorry I've been slammed with some other stuff but will investigate this soon.

@Antonio López Zambrano which plugin are you specifically seeing this issue with? If there is a demo or free version available can you share a simple project with me so I can try and reproduce the issue?

Yes this was removed since it seemed over complex to have different plugin layouts for each menu. For some people it can be confusing to not know why plugins show up one way in the browser and another way in the track menu. Generally the browser is a far quicker way to locate plugins once you get used to the search tool and the sort orders that you can specify from the dropdown on the plugin browser toolbar.