Light Grenade

On 5/28/2021 at 6:12 PM, Will_Kaydo said:

Bumping up. 

Can't we place this section highlighted in red, in a Category/Sub folder on this menu? To keep things organized and to have easy access to section that's highlighted in green? 

A very good idea! 

+1

16 minutes ago, scook said:

An aux track is a regular audio track with a renamed patch point for its input.

They may be created using the menu or by adding an audio track and setting the input to patch point. Rename the patch point as desired.

 

 

I know, but adding it with the + button would be faster. Similar to how busses work would be handy.

Bump 

Using this button to add an aux track would be perfect!

On 2/11/2021 at 5:32 PM, David A Ludwig said:

I have the same thing on one or two oldish projects. Solution for me is to reselect my workspace, then track, concole... are back. Have no idea why those projects are different.

Just getting back to this, thanks! I worked out the exact same solution (accidentally!) Certainly a strange one, I have reported it. 

Thank you  @Colin Nicholls! 

This has been my theme for years, and I had to regrettably drop it due to the recent updates. It's my favourite theme by far, especially for long sessions. 

Agree. Even a search for FX box would save time, and this could let you set up a macro.

Allen and Heath QU-16 user here. Excellent desk with really nice preamps, the full unit is extremely quiet. Fantastic build quality. You can record pre/post fader and there's 16 XLR inputs, alongside 16 line ins. 

I've had no issues tracking with this desk in Cakewalk. 

It replaced a Soundcraft Signature 22MTK which died on me after 4 uses. That unit sounded good, but the build quality was sketchy in places and the headphone amp was useless and noisy so I lost faith in the unit and sold my replacement. The QU-16 is a much better desk overall. 

Another option is the Zoom LiveTrak line, they are really nifty mixers for the money. 

6 hours ago, Marcello said:

You can listen at the link I posted.

I compared it with a Mogwai song, and I can actually hear the difference, the bass is too wide it goes to the back of my ears, the Mogwai one is dead center.

Is there like a plugin opposite of a widener kinda?

Boz Mongoose. It collapses bass frequencies to mono and give you controls for widening HF. 

It's on my mix bus, makes a good bit of difference and helps focus the mix.

I'm looking at an Antelope Discrete 4, it has the exact specs I need. Does anyone run antelope gear? I'm curious how it works with Windows 10. 

My Focusrite Clarett 4PRE has been absolutely solid, but I'd just like another two lineouts without upgrading to a rack unit or adding an ADAT unit. 

Antelope conversion is apparently tremendous, but driver reviews sound shaky at best. There's not many Windows reports either. 

Cheers

I've had this before. Normally happens on heavier sessions where my CPU is working hard. 

Try freezing everything to lighten to load on the CPU before bouncing, or route your mix bus to an aux track and print the mix there. 

Updated OS, Drivers and CbB and the problem persists. 

Hi folks, 

I'm encountering a strange hang whilst trying to load a project. The toast notification get to 'Almost Done', and hangs there and the main UI doesn't load. It also stalls on 'Preparing Project' for a while too. However, the performance bars start moving. and I'm actually able to play the song from the control bar, I just can't see the track or console view. This happens with both my main file and backup file. I have tried opening in Safe Mode and disabling any recent plugins - no joy. I have noticed that my RAM is through the roof upon opening the project, I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it? 

To make things ever weirder, the project opens in Sonar Platinum with no issues. I have tried saving the project as from Platinum and re-opening in CbB, but the problem persists. 

I have not updated to the latest version, as I normally hold off on updating until I'm finished with any important projects. 

I've sent this to support, but thought I'd post here just in case anyone has experienced anything similar.  

Cheers. 

A great idea.

On 1/30/2021 at 10:32 PM, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

Try bouncing an odd number of tracks or a mix of stereo and mono tracks to a single aux track.

I can record my drum submix (a mix of stereo and mono) to its aux, and freeze no problem. I can export this at ease too.

Are we talking about different things? 

11 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

If I recall correctly, you can't do a mix of stereo and mono bouncing with Aux tracks.

In what sense? I haven't encountered any issues with this so far. 

Just now, solarlux said:

Hello! What is difference from buses and aux aux is more flexible?

Hi! To put it simply, aux tracks are recordable and 'freezable' but busses aren't, so yeah aux tracks are more flexible. You can route anything to an aux track and record it. 

Here's an example of how I use aux tracks

- route all my all kicks to 'kick aux', all snares to 'snare aux', all toms 'toms aux' and all overheads and room to 'OH aux' 
- process each submix where necessary 
- use aux tracks for fx returns such as snare verb, kit verb, toms verb, parallel compression etc
- route all of these aux tracks to a 'master drum mix' 
- record the 'master drum mix' aux and archive every single drum channel, including every fx send
- freeze the 'master drum mix'

This dramatically reduces CPU load as all processing used on the drums are either frozen, or archived.  I used to do the same thing, but with busses, but busses aren't 'freezable' in Cakewalk so I couldn't offload the bus processing in any way. This is very useful on bigger sessions, especially when using CPU eating plugins like IK Tapes. 

I've switched from using busses to aux tracks and it's made Cakewalk totally scalable. It's great being able to record and freeze my main busses whilst archiving audio/fx tracks to dramatically reduce CPU load. It's been a total game changer actually. 

I'm wondering if there's a quicker way to insert aux tracks? or do I need to go via the track routing/send panels every time? The current implementation requires a lot of scrolling to insert one new aux, especially mid project. It'd be nice to have the option to insert an aux track like a regular track or bus. 

Note - this is CbB, not platinum. I'm just using an older theme. 

1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

That's not the problem. The problem is that this "bounce in place" method is not ideal and it's cumbersome.

Bounce in place should work like this:

- Render the audio processing clip, track and pro channel effects. An option to ignore volume fader settings could be ideal, but not necessary.

- Replace the original clip with the rendered one.

- Remove all effects from the plugin and reset ProChannel to its default state.

This is essentially the same as Bounce to Tracks except it doesn't create new tracks.

The current workaround has the following problems:

- You still have the plugins used in the freeze process in the fx rack after you bounce the track.

- Your ProChannel settings are the same as before the freeze.

- You have to manually remove plugins from the rack.

- ProChannel doesn't have a global reset parameter, so you have to reset each module manually.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. 

The other issue with using the clip fx rack is that you can't quickly copy one plugin across every clip/track quickly, and accessing each plugin requires more clicks. 

An example what I want to do is place HoRNet TheNormalizer on each track, set my target to -18dBFS, run the track and plugin analysis and bounce every track in place. The result is perfectly normalized audio with no plugins eating CPU, which is important on big sessions. Noise reduction and console/ tape emulation are another two processes that could benefit from this. 

The freezing solution is a slightly messy workaround, and bounce to tracks makes the process very time consuming, especially when you have a lot of tracks. Ideally, this should take three clicks, or two clicks with Alt+A a custom key binding. 

Unfortunately this doesn't solve the problem as you can't freeze twice (or can you?)

I freeze tracks towards the end of a session to free up CPU 

It'd be nice to bounce tracks in place rather than going tracks > bounce to tracks, and then the resultant file ending up on a new track. 

If I use auto align or Hornet normalizer I like to bounce before continuing on with the mix. I know I could add the track to the clip and bounce, but it's much faster copying plugins across a lot of tracks. 

Something like 'Bounce track in place and hide original'

10 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Well . . . Works for me. I have no problem in this department. 

FWIW: It is possible to route your Master Track to and Aux (which then becomes your Master Track) to apply these steps,  (Think out side the box, not too much furthet than your nose,) but  I guess it's too much for you to try, right? 

Why came to ask this Question then? 

Routing the master to an aux won't solve the problem. The problem is with the external insert plugin. 

I didn't come to ask any question. I was expanding upon OP's point so we can make Cakewalk as good as possible.  I have no interest in getting into a passive aggressive back and forth with you about a solo button.  Why people get so defensive over a piece of software, I will never understand. 



 

7 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Not if you send you faders pre. 

This works best on Instrument tracks. Create an "Audio Track" next to the Instrument Track and route the "Audio Tracks" Input to that of the Instrument Tracks. I prefer "Audio Track"for this and Not Aux or Bus for this. 

I'm not sure what you mean. I use the external insert plugin on my master fader, why do i need an instrument track?

It's a historic issue, there's a good explanation as to why in this thread from 2016
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Do-external-inserts-go-quite-when-soloing-an-Aux-track-or-Bus-with-an-external-insert-m3475781.aspx

1 hour ago, Will_Kaydo said:

I own the: 

• WA76 from Warm Audio

• The Seventeen from Black Lion Audio

• Electronics M-One XL Reverb (Cheap but really good.) 

• TL Audio Tube EQ

• Dbx 266XS Dual Compressor/Gate

• Electronic HD Mastering Brickwall Dedicated Hardware Limiter. 

Which I have no problem solo'ing. Have you made any changes in your preferences lately? 

What is that you can't solo? Track buses? What happens when you do solo a track in cakewalk? There's feature in Cakewalk I hate with absolute - that's the the "Solo Dim" It allows bleeding of the effects to come through from your buses. 

Link on explanation. 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR X3&language=3&help=Playback.15.html

Also check: 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=4&help=Playback.17.html

 

You can't solo any bus or aux track when the 'external insert' plugin is used anywhere. Track solo is not affected by this, so you can solo tracks freely.

I use the external insert on my mix bus to integrate an analogue chain. I've moved the external insert around and the problem persists. I have to bypass the external insert if I want to solo any bus or aux. I've raised this before and it's a longstanding bug that's never been fixed.

double post.