bats brew

to be clear, i think i saw it on the plant/page collab, and not necessarily zep... those guys are synonomous with 'zep', so it all kinda falls under the same umbrella

thanks lynn!! well, i'm on a mission... to try to define a certain kind of drum kit sound, that would be a 'bats brew' sound. i've got 3 different kinds of kits i want (dead dry 70's style, hard rock modern, and ballad level)

THAT'S SO COOL, the bodhran, i've seen it used quite a few times, even in a led zeppelin context, i'd love to get one and try to learn some basic rhythms. i'm also wanting to get one of those baritone recorder, just cuz of stupid grogu! LOL thanks for listening, the drum parts i program from scratch using superior drummer 3, usually i start with a loop from the library that i close, then i move stuff around and edit, to use it as a main rhythm motif. but i love working with real percussionists!

ok, just published a new version of this with a revamped drum kit, using a lot of suggestions from listeners https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/running-free-ver-3

well, i'm going to stick with superior drummer, and find a good blend of just the right components. i've spent a long time getting good at programming with this piece of kit, and not switching horses in the middle of the stream. but thanks all the same.

louisville slugger...! heheh, yep, i get that, used to play a lot of baseball when i was young. #2 is becoming the standout, for sure. i could work that snare a bit, i was thinking about dropping the pitch just a few cents.

wow, thanks so much for listening, i wasn't sure anyone would bother with the excersice, and i understand... yea, i think i really wanted a more rock modern live kit, but had to create #1 to figure it out! LOL something about the Masshoff kick, with that snare, is just right. still not sure about the toms yet.

im' trying to decide which drum kit between two i've built, work best for this song. i posted the 1st version of the song already, but now i want to try at least one different kit that i've been working on. a more rock sounding kit. both are from the toontracks superior drummer 'rooms of hansa' expansion kit. here's the song: https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/running-free and here's the kit used: [img]https://i.postimg.cc/Gp8bhG94/gonzo-hansa-live-kit.png[/img] 1st version of this song, uses this kit, this kit is a bit unique compared to the usual kit i use: the basis of the kit is a CAMCO set. it's a vintage set. i like it for a dry almost 70's kind of kick and impact. this kit is setup in the "Live" room. ok, here's the 2nd song version: https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/running-free-version-2 2nd version, with new kit: [img]https://i.postimg.cc/TwnGnxVG/hansa-masshoff-marble-room.png[/img] this kit is built around a Masshoff kit: "This is a very special kit, custom-built by Berlin-based boutique drum manufacturer Udo Masshoff. The stand-out feature in these drums is the the so-called “twin shells.” These shells make use of both steel and maple, resulting in drums that produce very warm, powerful and unique tones with an amazing frequency range." this kit is setup in the "Marble" room. room mics used to great affect.

thanks so much for being a fan john! i appreciate it! i've got to do one last pass on this mix, so i'm taking all the review notes i've gotten and incorporating them in the last mix.

heh, all you need is 3 minutes and 8 seconds!

Glad you're hearing what I was going after! Yea, its hard. Mostly training the ear to hear the difference between hard clarity and smoothness the ear really wants to hear. Thanks for the comments

ha! ozzy! i dig ozzy. one of my first albums i ever bought, was the black sabbath Paranoid album.. so i can't see he's NOT an influence! love rush too... the meter drop out has to be there, to match up with the lyric... i've made it more obvious now, and i already had a key change after the 1st verse... what i call the middle eight, happens twice, there is a full step up, then a step back down to the main key. not a bad idea, for sure, but wouldn't really work with the flow i'm going for. i appreciate the comments, thanks for listening!

excellent idea! i have waves Renn de esser, and De esser, plus a de esser with studio one, but haven't tried sibilence. you know, some plugs just work better than others by design, so yea, on sale, i might nab it. the crash, i processed the pitch a bit lower, and lowered the volume a bit, and voila. i actually like the pitch of the cymbal now. it's a keeper. i wont post another mix of this, til i release for album. appreciate the help along the way!

thanks for listening ron! good ears you have.. i'm going to find those freq's, and kill them with extreme prejudice!!! LOL actually, maybe just a touch of a dynamic EQ on just the one frequency, i think in the case of the cymbal (superior drummer rooms of hansa), i may just drop the pitch of the cymbals a smidge, and see if that shifts that frequency to make it a bit richer. if not, same deal with the vox, i'll deess it with either deesser or dynamic eq, which i'm using more of these days for problem solving.

hey mark! i'm glad you dig this mix, i suppose it will appeal to some, and not to others, that's ok with me... those drum flams, are fills i took from the 'rooms of hansa' SDX kit with Superior Drummer. i really like that set. i've built a custom drum kit, i'm still working on what i will call my 'signature' kit. the drum part change happens as the arrangement changes, and the mood of the song changes, it keeps the groove going, but releases the tension completely, hopefully aligns the listener's ear with the next section. i thought about just dropping the drums out completely at that point, as the music plays on, and letting it come back in with the full band a few bars later... i may still try this approach, as i finalize what i want to do with the song. thanks for the input!

That drum break is my favorite part mark! Heh, no, I think I'll keep that part, its inherent to my sense of humor! vox are up now. Tnx for getting me to think about it

Thanks so much!

so, i remixed this today, worked on the vox quite a bit, reduced the actual 2nd lead vox tracks, and moved them off center, or mute them at times.. left the harmonies, but repositioned in the stereo field, and added some more room verb, which made them sit in the mix even better. i have the magma bb tubes on the vocal bus, i reduced the high end a bit, and reduced the odd order harmonics (beast) and that made them quite a bit smoother. see how you like the new one please! (same link, i never keep the older mixes.)

https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/running-free ok, remixed the entire thing, using the ideas folks gave me! thanks for that... and re-eq'd the entire drum kit. it's getting closer

That is why I posted

https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/running-free would love some feedback on the mix, working this one up right now

another favorite from way back, of mine. great cover, mick box is just a bit different than any other guitar player i heard at that time... and trying to sing david byron, is just as hard as trying to sing freddie mercury, or elton john. it's a task, not for the faint of heart. gary thain is still one of my alltime favorite bass players, rip. great job on this one.

LOVE THIS ONE. you know, i just don't care about covers anymore, haven't for years, but i love this. what love for sabbath. sabbath is what started me off as a guitar player, so it's a life long love affair, and i dig anyone who cares enough to make such close covers, it's not karaoke, it's pure fandom. dig it.

hey thanks bapu! appreciate it.

https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/spliteq/ this might work