T Boog Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM (edited) Last year, Fil from Wings of Pegasus completely exposed the Eagles as musical mimes. By using crowd captured cell phone recordings, he proved they were using the same pre-recorded lead & backing vocals and at least some instrumentation(like piano) night after night and year after year. At least on the two songs he tested... Desperado & I Can't Tell You Why. Then, clearly in response to them being exposed, the Eagles rerecorded or perhaps just retuned the vocals so they would have new tracks to mime to. And here's the icing on the cake... The Eagles now force all their concert goers to put their phones & smart watches in magnetically sealed "Yondr pouches" that are locked when they enter the venue and unlocked when they leave. The Eagles claim they're now doing this for the good of the audience... to create a more intimate experience. (Bullsh*t! 😄) Don Henley was already a ***** in my book. This definitely don't help his case. Anyway, I'm curious what u guys think. Have we reached the point where it doesn't matter anymore to most people? Do most concert goers just give into the delusion rather than question if it's live or Memorex? And should people just have sympathy that the remaining Eagles are too old to do cardio & sit-ups to maintain their voices and then pay lots of money to go see them mime their "performances"? Me personally, you couldn't pay me to go to an Eagles concert. Don't get me wrong, they were once an amazing band... FULL of talent. However, I think it's way past time for the Eagles to fly into the sunset. Anyway, here are some of Fil's videos exposing the Partridges... Sory, I meant the Eagles 😁 Edited Tuesday at 11:52 PM by T Boog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM I've seen the videos. The evidence he offers as proof is undeniable. Science! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted yesterday at 02:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:57 AM I saw the Eagles perform (unannounced & clandestine) in a little bar in Lyons, Colorado in the fall of 1975. I just stopped in for a few minutes on a road trip. They were singing for themselves then, although it may have been one of the last times doing so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Oakes Posted yesterday at 07:44 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:44 AM My two Euro cents worth. How can you take someone who mimes, and who prances shirtless in the rain out of a tube station in London seriously ? He’s like a stuck record and takes great pleasure in assassinating groups/singers using poor quality audio and videos from telephones. If he used the original recordings i think he’d have more credibility, but he doesn’t. He uses stem splitters which produce tracks riddled with artifacts. YMMV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Boog Posted yesterday at 08:43 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 08:43 AM 42 minutes ago, Jeremy Oakes said: My two Euro cents worth. How can you take someone who mimes, and who prances shirtless in the rain out of a tube station in London seriously ? He’s like a stuck record and takes great pleasure in assassinating groups/singers using poor quality audio and videos from telephones. If he used the original recordings i think he’d have more credibility, but he doesn’t. He uses stem splitters which produce tracks riddled with artifacts. YMMV Cheers Jeremy. I personally don't find he takes great pleasure in it. Viewers request videos for him to analyze and he does. He actually seems like a nice person to me who's just being honest. Also, the lack of audio quality is not an issue because if you watch the videos above, the pitch graphs from the phones are very detailed and they match each other pretty much perfectly in pitch and they match down to the hundreds of a second in timing throughout the entire song. That simply would not happen if it were different performances. Cheap phone or not, it wouldn't even be close. Now as far as him prancing shirtless in the rain.... I have no good excuse for that 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Oakes Posted yesterday at 11:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:00 AM 2 hours ago, T Boog said: Cheers Jeremy. I personally don't find he takes great pleasure in it. Viewers request videos for him to analyze and he does. He actually seems like a nice person to me who's just being honest. Also, the lack of audio quality is not an issue because if you watch the videos above, the pitch graphs from the phones are very detailed and they match each other pretty much perfectly in pitch and they match down to the hundreds of a second in timing throughout the entire song. That simply would not happen if it were different performances. Cheap phone or not, it wouldn't even be close. Now as far as him prancing shirtless in the rain.... I have no good excuse for that 😄 We’ll have to agree to disagree ref the sub par quality and his methods. I’ve asked him several times what set up he was using to pontificate his crap. He never bothered replying. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago It's been going on for a looooooooong time. I remember a concert when the tape broke, and the Alice Cooper band continued to pantomime while marching, and “hang” Alice with nothing but the parade drum the drummer was marching with. I think that was in the 1970s. The bass guitar, guitars, and drum trap set got quiet, and I don't know if Vince was supposed to be singing or not. I didn't care, I came to see Dr. John. I friend of mine who owned a music store got a keyboard from a Madonna tour. You could hear Madonna's voice sampled on the keys, so the keyboard player could play her vocals while she gyrated to the delight of the adolescent boys in the audience. 1980s. I knew a guy who worked at Criteria Studios in Miami. They had a GM motor home that was a recording/playback studio. One big cable from the motor home to the stage and a camera that fed back was all he needed to “play” the concert. I was a band on a cruise ship where Cyndi Lauper and MTV came to hold a concert. We were filmed for MTV, but at sea, we never got to see us on TV. Anyway, Cyndi's show was pre-recorded. And I know for a fact, she is a very capable singer. But what happens if something unexpected happens on “Live” TV? Plus they did the same show a few times in a row, with different camera angles, and some pointed at the fans. To splice the shows together, they had to be in sync. In defense of the artists. Often it is not their choice, but with the big money riding on the performance, the “suits” don't want to risk anything, like voice trouble. There are way too many profits to lose if the singer gets laryngitis. So they make the artists mime the concert. So they are forced to mime the show. I suspect (but don't know) this is what happens in The Dome in Las Vegas. After all, the music has to sync with the videos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Notes_Norton said: It's been going on for a looooooooong time. +1, so many concerts are based more on visual, so if there is much exertion involved at all (especially with vocals), it will affect performance. Go jog a mile and sing a song while doing so... see how long the performance sounds good. Examples of this abound. The funniest one I ever saw was Justin Bieber yacking his guts out on the stage while the song kept going with his voice in tact. It only seems to get attention when someone makes an issue or a technical glitch happens (the technical glitches make them obvious), but many don't seem to care. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, mettelus said: Go jog a mile and sing a song while doing so... see how long the performance sounds good. Two words: Bruce Dickinson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: Two words: Bruce Dickinson. UP THE IRONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I'll ignore the 600 pound gorilla in the room and go with this epic failure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Boog Posted 12 hours ago Author Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, craigb said: I'll ignore the 600 pound gorilla in the room and go with this epic failure! Ashlee was just ahead of her time. She'd fit right in with today's music scene 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I'd rather the band get up there and play live, warts and all, without amazing theatrics. But then, I'm a musician, and I'm not looking at the show for the dazzling theatrics. Back when I was opening for major stars, it was the beginning of the rock concert phenomena, and we just got up there and played. The headliners got up and followed us, and they just played, too. But like almost everything else commercial, a good way to sell more is to in some way out-do the status quo. I guess it's human nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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