HUGE warning about CapCut's new terms of service!

[T Boog]

 According to Google...

"CapCut claims broad usage rights: CapCut can use user content, including audio and voice recordings, for various purposes, including commercial use, such as advertising and promotional material. This license is perpetual, meaning CapCut retains these rights even if the user deletes their content or closes their account.

Waiver of rights: By agreeing to the terms, users waive certain rights, including the right to prior approval or credit for how their content is used.

Concerns for creators: These terms raise concerns for content creators who rely on licensing agreements, brand deals, or exclusivity, as CapCut can potentially use their content for commercial gain without further compensation or notification.

No opt-out: There is currently no way to opt out of these terms if you wish to use CapCut.

Alternatives: To avoid these issues, creators may consider switching to video editing tools with more creator-friendly policies or carefully reviewing the terms of service of any platform they use. 

Important note: While these terms grant CapCut broad rights, users still retain ownership of their content. However, the grant of a perpetual, worldwide, and royalty-free license significantly limits the user's control over how their content is used by CapCut."

[T Boog]

This is unbelievable! CapCut needs to be brought before congress. I don't understand how they are able to get away with these policies. It's outright evil.

[Wibbles]

1 hour ago, T Boog said:

I don't understand how they are able to get away with these policies. It's outright evil.

That's capitalism, baby!

[T Boog]

15 minutes ago, Wibbles said:

That's capitalism, baby!

I'm just hoping more people speak out against this. Esp musicians. I've now deleted CapCut from all three of my devices. If enough people buck this, they'll have to change their policy.

[Mr No Name]

China, go figure.

used to be what happens in America (bad thing) happens over here (Europe) in 5 years

now

China has jumped to the front of the queue to usher in the things that are too much even for America (but they would like to do)

5 years later America, 5 years after normalised to Europe.

 

go China.

[Shane_B.]

21 hours ago, Wibbles said:

That's capitalism, baby!

Uh ... I didn't know the Chinese were a capitalist nation.

[T Boog]

28 minutes ago, Mr No Name said:

China has jumped to the front of the queue to usher in the things that are too much even for America (but they would like to do)

Yeah, it's freaking unreal. If anyone has EVER made a video with one of their songs using CapCut and they made the mistake of checking the new user agreement, CapCut can now sell that song to anyone they choose and the artist gets nothing. They can even sell your song to a Satanic company to use in a sick advertisement and you can do absolutely nothing about it. And if you made a CapCut video that shows ur kids faces, CapCut can use and sell ur kids pictures & home videos to anyone they like. It's f**king unthinkable!

Edited Saturday at 04:00 PM by T Boog

[mettelus]

Never heard of them, but that is a bit over the top. Another thing to bear in mind with ANY internet/international company is who they are and where they are located. If something falls into litigation and is based in a country that doesn't care (or if they have NO assets in the country filing the lawsuit - ByteDance does have TikTok (for now)), it can be a dead end even without them forcing the the user to sign an agreement. International litigation and enforcement can be a very slippery slope, so always be careful with whom you do business with.

[Starship Krupa]

Ah, a new round of "panicky outrage/be sure to subscribe" videos.

Has CapCut used anyone's content/likeness/whatever against their wishes or are they just waiting for the right moment to drive everyone away from their platform?

[T Boog]

30 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

Ah, a new round of "panicky outrage/be sure to subscribe" videos.

Has CapCut used anyone's content/likeness/whatever against their wishes or are they just waiting for the right moment to drive everyone away from their platform?

I'm sure there's many youtubers who do anything for clicks but that's not the case here. First, most of the people I've seen warning about this new Capcut agreement and deleting it are the same people with Capcut tutorial videos on their channels and others are reputable advice lawyers. Second, even crooked ***** Google admits the truth about how serious and extreme these new policies are.

Third,  it's common sense that they wouldn't start taking advantage of their new policies while it's still fresh and many people still haven't opened CapCap yet to agree to the new terms. (Of course, I'm sure they'll try to be selective and discreet about how they steal from their users the future)

Honestly Krupa, it amazes me that ur so distrusting of the overwhelming consensus on this, esp when these ridiculous terms are out in the open for everyone to see and yet you're more than trusting about signing ur personal rights away to a foreign communist entity.

There's no lawyer in the world that would let u sign something as ridiculous as that. Bottom line, this is one of those situations where people are rightfully sounding an alarm. After all, these terms are outrageous plus they last forever even if u delete ur account. (You're even signing away ur right to ever sue them). Why would anyone KNOWINGLY sign away all of their rights...  let alone to a communist country who has a history of stealing our personal info? 

Where's ur head at Krupa?  🤨

[Starship Krupa]

5 hours ago, T Boog said:

Honestly Krupa, it amazes me that ur so distrusting of the overwhelming consensus on this

 

5 hours ago, T Boog said:

Where's ur head at Krupa?  🤨

Possibly in the sand or up my rear end, too much of the time.😆

I'm kind of a contrarian. When alarms are raised, my first impulse is to pee into the windstorm of overwhelming consensus. I'm glad I can apply critical thought to what I see, but I'm not glad about stepping on the toes of well-meaning people.

Sincerely, thanks for taking the time and trouble to fill me/us in on more of the details. It's the kind of level-headed information I need to form a better opinion. I'm interested to see how the company responds, so please keep us posted.

YouTube videos....well, there's always that "be sure to like and subscribe, and give us your opinion in the comments below" motivation for them to get attention by appealing to fear. If the title ends with an exclamation mark, they're already on the back foot with me. In my late teens I had the good/mis fortune to run across a book by Abbie Hoffman with an essay titled "Cold War Language: An Editorial Reply," that ruined TV news for me forever. It was like I got those glasses from They Live! Krazy Glued to my face.

Here's a thought: in these days when the panic is usually about AI-created content, it's actually a tiny bit reassuring to think that a company would go to nefarious lengths to gain rights to use human-created content.

If I hear of any friends using CapCut, I'll direct them to the warning sites. I never heard of them before today.

[T Boog]

7 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Possibly in the sand or up my rear end, too much of the time.😆

I'm kind of a contrarian.

Well, u do make a good Devil's advocate 😄. But ur also open minded to hear counter arguments. I respect that about u Krupa.

And yeah, I appreciate u letting ANYONE know about CapCut's new policy. That's all I'm trying to do is make people aware of what they're agreeing to before they sign it. And hopefully enough people will delete CapCut to force them to update their policy. (Though I'm not holding my breath)

Btw, I wasn't aware of these terms and I did sign the new agreement. However, although I've edited using CapCut (they have great filters and a great slow motion map feature that works like Sonar's tempo map), I fortunately had yet to upload any of my original music to it. And now I've deleted it so I'm good.

I'm just hoping the US govt does something to ban the owner of CapCut...  ByteDance. Afterall, this is the same company who owns TikTok. So the US govt knows what theyre about. They are not shy about trying to acquire our rights and our personal data. And unfortunately most of us Americans do have our heads in the sand. We're like little naive sheep. One would hope our govt is trying to protect their unsuspecting citizens from outside forces. Cheers 🍻

 

[pedwal wally wally wha]

back in the day, hotmail had a similar "all your base are belong to us" eula so i can only assume google/microsoft/amazon/et al etc

but, just because it's in a eula doesn't mean it's legal 🤷‍♂️

[Starship Krupa]

10 hours ago, T Boog said:

I wasn't aware of these terms and I did sign the new agreement.

😖

I'm glad you caught it in time.

10 hours ago, pedwal wally wally wha said:

just because it's in a eula doesn't mean it's legal

Excellent point. The EULA would have to stand up to a civil suit, which I doubt that it would.

Companies put all kinds of crepe in EULA's that isn't actually defensible. They're probably just trying to see what they can get away with.

I'd not be surprised if they back off once engagement with their platform starts to suffer as a result.