Sonar Offer

[sjoens]

Just sold off all my old left over tapes, some still in the wrapper . . .  Didn't get much for them tho.

[Jim Fogle]

My Zoom MRS-8 (MRS stands for mobile recording studio) uses SD cards.  However the maximum card size is 1 gigabyte.  I bought a 10 pack back when they were still available and I realised they were getting rare in retail.

[Helios.G]

9 hours ago, Jeremy Oakes said:

Pure supposition, just like adding oil on a fire. Why don't you just do what your last phrase says ? Make Music.

I would argue Sonar has now exceded its former glory, its better than ever, certainly versus the Gibson fiasco. Been there, lived it, moved on BTW.

Sheesh, your posts are getting a little repetitive John, go back to what you do best, helping people.

J

Respectfully, this is not universally true, that's it's better.  Today I was trying to give new sonar another chance.  Set it up on my laptop, opened up a cbb session with a vst drum I was programming, and in new sonar it wouldn't follow the project on playback.  In cbb worked perfectly no issue.  Mind you, I'm not saying cbb is without issue, I'm just saying that new sonar isn't inherently "better". 

[Jeremy Oakes]

8 hours ago, Helios.G said:

Respectfully, this is not universally true, that's it's better.  Today I was trying to give new sonar another chance.  Set it up on my laptop, opened up a cbb session with a vst drum I was programming, and in new sonar it wouldn't follow the project on playback.  In cbb worked perfectly no issue.  Mind you, I'm not saying cbb is without issue, I'm just saying that new sonar isn't inherently "better". 

It is.You're one person among hwo many that are satisfied ?

But YMMV.

J

[Helios.G]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Oakes said:

It is.You're one person among hwo many that are satisfied ?

But YMMV.

J

If that were the case my post wouldn't be  3 pages deep,  and have others like it on here.  I want cakewalk to succeed as much as the next guy,  I've been using it for decades.  But you can call something out and ask for improvements without being antagonistic to the platform or labelled a "hater".  If they are pushing people in a new direction, they should take into account what those people want in a platform.

[John Vere]

@Jeremy Oakes If you read most of my posts you will see that my point of view is one shared by others. 
I support Sonar development team and feel strongly that they are not the issue. They have updated Sonar to the best version yet. We just don’t like the Bandlab Membership deal. I want to have my money go to the developers not to a corporate entity that is focused on making music into a joke for people who are too lazy to actually learn the art form. They don’t care about Sonar because it is way over that crowds heads. 
 

Just open your Bandlab Membership page if you want to see what I am talking about. 
 

@msmcleodI still have around 20 disks including 5 that are brand new but yes I doubt you can even buy them anymore because they are very obscure. Regular mini disks work but that’s only 2 tracks.  I was going to fire it up one day out of curiosity because I still think my best sounding mixes were made with it.  
 

I also have my Zoom L8 which is also a digital recording device. But as they say, it will all end up in a computer anyway. 
 

I love Sonar I don’t love Bandlab. Only thing that will change my mind is the day they allow me to own Sonar. 
It’s not about the cost of a membership, it’s all about what will happen 3 or more years from now? 
You purchase a daw, turn off the internet and keep making music for 3 , 4  ? Years with no interruptions. 

[Jeremy Oakes]

57 minutes ago, John Vere said:

@Jeremy Oakes If you read most of my posts you will see that my point of view is one shared by others. 
I support Sonar development team and feel strongly that they are not the issue. They have updated Sonar to the best version yet. We just don’t like the Bandlab Membership deal. I want to have my money go to the developers not to a corporate entity that is focused on making music into a joke for people who are too lazy to actually learn the art form. They don’t care about Sonar because it is way over that crowds heads. 
 

Just open your Bandlab Membership page if you want to see what I am talking about. 
 

@msmcleodI still have around 20 disks including 5 that are brand new but yes I doubt you can even buy them anymore because they are very obscure. Regular mini disks work but that’s only 2 tracks.  I was going to fire it up one day out of curiosity because I still think my best sounding mixes were made with it.  
 

I also have my Zoom L8 which is also a digital recording device. But as they say, it will all end up in a computer anyway. 
 

I love Sonar I don’t love Bandlab. Only thing that will change my mind is the day they allow me to own Sonar. 
It’s not about the cost of a membership, it’s all about what will happen 3 or more years from now? 
You purchase a daw, turn off the internet and keep making music for 3 , 4  ? Years with no interruptions. 

@John VereWhoa, slowly there. I’m not fond of the sub myself, just fed up of reading repetitive posts about it……. Which let’s be honest, re-hash the same arguments. 

i’m sure the devs are well aware of some users issues, but its marketing who rule the roost, unfortunately. As in most companies nowadays.

FYI, i don’t use Bandlab nor Next so you could say i’m not getting my money’s worth from the sub. My choice.

Anyway, make music, no ?

J

[AB9]

3 hours ago, John Vere said:

@Jeremy Oakes If you read most of my posts you will see that my point of view is one shared by others. 
I support Sonar development team and feel strongly that they are not the issue. They have updated Sonar to the best version yet. We just don’t like the Bandlab Membership deal. I want to have my money go to the developers not to a corporate entity that is focused on making music into a joke for people who are too lazy to actually learn the art form. They don’t care about Sonar because it is way over that crowds heads. 
 

Just open your Bandlab Membership page if you want to see what I am talking about. 
 

@msmcleodI still have around 20 disks including 5 that are brand new but yes I doubt you can even buy them anymore because they are very obscure. Regular mini disks work but that’s only 2 tracks.  I was going to fire it up one day out of curiosity because I still think my best sounding mixes were made with it.  
 

I also have my Zoom L8 which is also a digital recording device. But as they say, it will all end up in a computer anyway. 
 

I love Sonar I don’t love Bandlab. Only thing that will change my mind is the day they allow me to own Sonar. 
It’s not about the cost of a membership, it’s all about what will happen 3 or more years from now? 
You purchase a daw, turn off the internet and keep making music for 3 , 4  ? Years with no interruptions. 

What are you worries about might happen 3 years from now? Is it that Bandlab will no longer offer Sonar or Bandlab folds or something like that?  If that is the concern, maybe Bandlab could provide a written guarantee that if Sonar were to no longer be available that subscribers would be offered a reasonable purchase option at that time.  Thoughts?

Edited 6 hours ago by AB9

[pedant]

2 minutes ago, AB9 said:

What are you worries about might hapoen 3 years from now?

or 10, 20... this was never a factor with analog kit, which i think syncs with the whole sub/digital product hoo har

[Amberwolf]

8 hours ago, Jeremy Oakes said:

Which let’s be honest, re-hash the same arguments. 

Not knowing which specific things you're referring to...If they're "rehashing" the same things, maybe that's because they are issues that need to be corrected?

As a general rule, you don't get multiple people asking for or speaking against the same specific things, especially taking the time to keep restating it at every opportunity, unless they are a problem for those people.  And in general, only a few percent (at most, usually many less) of any particular group of poeple will speak up about something, so there are likely many times the vocal amount of people that want (or don't want) whatever it is that's being spoken about. 

 

Please remember:  Just because something (whatever it is) isn't a problem for one subset of people, doesn't negate the problem for all those that it does affect.