Changing between views in Cakewalk with one monitor?

[Waldemar Pawlik]

I have been using two monitors with Cakewalk for years, but have now been forced to use one larger monitor. In the past I would

have Track View open on one monitor, and Console View open on the other, but now due to ageing eye sight I have changed to a new larger single monitor.

My problem is that I would like to switch between the two views, but cannot find a simple way to do it.

In Cakewalk is there a toggle that I have somehow missed, that enables toggling between screens, i.e similar to Luna, instead of setting up a new screen

every time I want to switch? Ideally, with one keystroke or mouse click.

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Screensets

[John Vere]

Learn the basic shortcuts for all the views. 
Example D is the multi dock. B is browser I is Inspector 
Set up the sizes of the various views the way you want and save that as a new workspace.
I call mine “One Monitor “  

Then use the shortcuts to open and close the multi dock or the browser etc. 

I then have a workspace for 2 monitors with the multi dock on second monitor. 
 

You can update your workspace anytime if you need to. 

 

[sjoens]

This is what Screensets are for.  Once they're set up how you want them, just hit the Screenset number (or top row number key) to flip back-n-forth.

Screensets are project specific.  Workspaces are global affecting all projects until changed.

[John Vere]

19 hours ago, sjoens said:

Screensets are project specific.  Workspaces are global affecting all projects until changed.

Exactly. So with Workspace you only have to customize your settings once. With screen sets you have to manually re do them for each project. 

And you can use both if you wish. I think you have to set the workspace to None to use screen sets? Never tried that. 

[sjoens]

Although Screensets are per-project, the default sets are loaded and used in every project until you change one before saving a project.

FWIW, using Screensets, Workspaces, and Templates together can create confusion and a lot of users have been tripped up due to not understanding exactly what's going on with them.

Edited Friday at 09:56 PM by sjoens

[User 905133]

44 minutes ago, sjoens said:

When creating a Workspace, whatever Screensets you have in place will be saved with it.  This means you can use Workspaces to create a global set of custom Screensets that will follow every new project you make.  No more reconfiguring them or using custom project templates.

Thanks for this "Tip-you-can-use!" As you may recall, I don't intentionally use screensets, though a few weeks ago I enabled the Screensets Module in the Control Bar in case I wanted to try to integrate them into my workflows.  This tip (above) is giving me an idea--to see if I can use screensets saved in a Workspace per your tip to overcome a couple of very specific issues I have been having with Workspaces. 

[sjoens]

It's not foolproof so let me know how it goes.  Screensets are included in the Manager only to display or not the module.  I've noticed when loading a project with a custom Workspace/Screenset combo, the main custom screenset loads with no numbers lit in the module.  Great if you never change to another screenset.  The moment you do the default screensets take over.  Only way to return to the custom screenset is to reload the Workspace, and then only #1 will load.  Ugh.

Nice thing about Screensets is that they can be renamed differently in each project.

Edited Friday at 11:10 PM by sjoens

[sjoens]

Even tho documentation says: "Window Layout. Load the saved window layout, including size and position. This option functions as a global screenset, I'm not so sure.  Workspaces will ultimately reset custom Screensets, even when returning to None.  Another reason I avoid them.

They also seem to do weird things with track icons.  I use large icons but when switching Workspaces it tries to load large icons in small icon spacing misaligning the strip height in Inspector.

Edited Friday at 11:10 PM by sjoens

[User 905133]

Thanks for the additional details. Not an issue for me because it isn't critical for me; it was more like, "Hey, maybe I can use this for something." So, even if it doesn't pan out, it was worth considering.

[John Vere]

I only use 2 workspaces, One screen, Two screens. And I use the view shortcuts a lot. I dabbled in screensets a few times and got mixed up. The only one I'm not sure anyone sorted out was per project console view strip sizes. Example small project, big strips, large project small strips. Or a mixture. I am positive this can be done per project with screensets but never got it going. 

[sjoens]

Works here.  Screensets will maintain track and bus CV strip widths but have trouble maintaining hardware output strip widths.  Projects saved with narrow hardware strips will occasionally open with wide strips.  A bug inherited by CbB from earlier versions but never fixed.

A similar bug is with PRV track pane width and settings.  They have to be reset each time project is opened even if screenset is locked.

More tips:
Screensets can be renamed for quicker recall.

Each Screenset has it's own Multidock which can have different views than the other screensets.

D can be used to toggle between a screenset and it's Multidock - unless it's empty.

Best way to keep a favorite Screenset group is by creating a project template.

 

Edited Saturday at 01:14 AM by sjoens

[Waldemar Pawlik]

Well I tried playing around with Screenset, but it is just too difficult to keep track of and haveing to reset them all the time.

I have reverted to the using Alt+1 for Track View and Alt +2 for Console View as shown in the Views menu. Once you set up your

screen, it will always return to how you have set it.

I would still prefer a single key stroke that allows toggling back and forth between screens.

Edited yesterday at 07:09 AM by Waldemar Pawlik

[Bristol_Jonesey]

1 hour ago, Waldemar Pawlik said:

I would still prefer a single key stroke that allows toggling back and forth between screens.

There is, as noted above. It's 'D'

Open your console view and dock it in the Multidock

Hitting D repeatedly will toggle between the Multidock & Track View

[User 905133]

4 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

There is, as noted above. It's 'D'

Open your console view and dock it in the Multidock

Hitting D repeatedly will toggle between the Multidock & Track View

This method has served me well for some of my workflows that primarily use a single monitor with a second monitor as a spillover space for various UI Windows as needed.  

In addition, I have created some Workspaces I sometimes use when I want a full-sized Console on Mon. 2.

For my needs, I like the flexibility to have multiple workflows I can switch among, though I understand the stability of having a single visual layout which works for the bulk of what they do.    

On 6/19/2025 at 4:54 AM, Waldemar Pawlik said:

. . . now due to ageing eye sight I have changed to a new larger single monitor.

My problem is that I would like to switch between the two views, but cannot find a simple way to do it.

In Cakewalk is there a toggle that I have somehow missed, that enables toggling between screens . . . .

BTW, I understand issues with aging eyesight.  A few years ago, I moved a general purpose 40" TV to my PC (Mon. 1) with a smaller/older computer monitor to the right side with Windows' Display Scaling at 125-175% mostly as a spillover space for UI windows but occasionally for a full-size view (Mon. 2).  Not sure something like this would meet your needs, but thought I'd mention it as a possibility.

Edited 22 hours ago by User 905133
added a quotation so people will know the BTW was responding to the vision change issue