equality Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) I had to test it :rolleyes:. I have used AI in photography before. An instrumental song (Little Creek) with newly written lyrics was used as a template. Fast as hell, Suno.com delivered a number of suggestions where the song had been redone and different singers and some vocal harmonies were added. I chose the one I thought was best and imported the stems. I don't think the sound quality was particularly good and the vocal track lost some nice choirs along the way. I tried to clean up the vocal track but the pronunciation is sometimes really strange. The word "play" sounds like the French word "entré". "Neither" is sometimes pronounced "neether" and sometimes "nyther" (as in "eye"). Anyway, I am amazed and impressed! I can't hear that instruments have been added. However, Suno removed my piano. Added one of those, brushes, balalaika and organ. Is this the death for songwriters? I would like to be able to just "bring home" a vocalist without changing a lot of the rest of the song. Maybe that's possible. I haven't explored all the possibilities. Edited March 13 by equality 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Interesting. Vocal placement in the sound space is very... spacy in headphones, and it has a super-phasy and breathy sound. Nice little tune overall. Some timing weirdness with a couple pianos notes around 1:13. I'll probably have to try this out with one of my own songs for fun sometime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Mikael I listened to your previous post (Little Creek -nicely done!) and then this one with the added in vocalist and other additions and gotta say I'm impressed with the result. I tried Suno.com -- put in a phrase and it came back with a pretty good song including lyrics that made sense. The vocalist sounded a lot like yours. Not sure how I feel about all this but have to admit I'm impressed. -Bjorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equality Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 9 hours ago, David Baay said: Interesting. Vocal placement in the sound space is very... spacy in headphones, and it has a super-phasy and breathy sound. Nice little tune overall. Some timing weirdness with a couple pianos notes around 1:13. I'll probably have to try this out with one of my own songs for fun sometime. Thanks David for important feedback. As said, sound quality of the stems lag behind. I had to do some cleaning and eq:ing before accepting the results. The width is on me and I diminished it a bit. You're right, there is a mess around 1:13. I have a lousy ear for rhythm and beat. Hopefully, a bit tidier now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 hours ago, equality said: Hopefully, a bit tidier now? Yes, better. And the vocal placement is quite a bit better. Previously, with heaphones, it sounded like it was floating in the middle of my head while the instruments were in a different space, more out front. I didn't recognize it as excessive width, but that must have been it. Nice work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Hi Very interesting - as you said the vocal can sound a little strange if one is being hypercritical, but believe me I've played with a couple of singers who sound much worse than this!! Will AI be the death of music ?- only if we let it, I feel Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equality Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2025 at 1:09 AM, bjornpdx said: Mikael I listened to your previous post (Little Creek -nicely done!) and then this one with the added in vocalist and other additions and gotta say I'm impressed with the result. I tried Suno.com -- put in a phrase and it came back with a pretty good song including lyrics that made sense. The vocalist sounded a lot like yours. Not sure how I feel about all this but have to admit I'm impressed. -Bjorn Thanks a lot Bjorn! I wish Suno didn't change that much of the original concept of the song I uploaded. But we haven't seen the last versions of those algorithms, have we? Would be nice to hear your experience moreover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equality Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 18 hours ago, David Baay said: Yes, better. And the vocal placement is quite a bit better. Previously, with heaphones, it sounded like it was floating in the middle of my head while the instruments were in a different space, more out front. I didn't recognize it as excessive width, but that must have been it. Nice work. Thanks David for taking your time for a second look. I sort of get tunnel vision at home. That's why these forums came about, right? Glad you found an improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equality Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Bajan Blue said: Hi Very interesting - as you said the vocal can sound a little strange if one is being hypercritical, but believe me I've played with a couple of singers who sound much worse than this!! Will AI be the death of music ?- only if we let it, I feel Nigel Right, AI is made by humans for humans and hopefully we may see it as a powerful tool, to get inspired of. I must say e g, I wouldn't come up with that balaika hook(?) if not triggered by the Suno-version. I did some serious attempts to clean the vocal file further but not lucky. Today I will try Ultimate vocal removal (UVR) as a last attempt to get rid of artefacts. It's interesting to see how what difference it makes to have the written lyrics in front of one's eyes. What she sings become almost crystal clear if you go along with what's written. Without it ,it sounds like a completely foreign language.😄 It reminds me of how much information severely hearing impaired people get from lip reading. Thanks for listening an comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Boog Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/12/2025 at 6:28 PM, equality said: I tried to clean up the vocal track but the pronunciation is sometimes really strange I like the female voice in your song but yeah, I have the same problem. Ive been using an online AI voice service for female backing vocals. A couple of the voices sound great tone-wise but pronunciation-wise, theyre hit and miss. They often turn my "ahhs" into "oohs". Im assuming this technology will inprove with time. It def needs to get better at listening more accurately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Boog Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 24 minutes ago, T Boog said: Im assuming this technology will inprove with time. Most of u on this forum are more computer savvy than me. Im curious, in the near future, do yall see AI getting better at reproducing vocals more accurately? (With better pronunciation and lest weird artifacts) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I liked the song although it sounded unreal at times , but still rather nice ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Interesting experiment. AI is there to play with so why not. I have no idea what you did or what AI did, but the vocals were what stood out to me really as hissy, like needing deessing. Maybe just my ears, the pollen is horrible at the moment. If I heard this in a movie I wouldnt think oh this is an AI generated song, and I do expect we will be hearing more and more AI generated music placements. I am trying AI video generating and its really fun. I havent tried music yet but probably sometime will. I like the song. Thanks for sharing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 20 hours ago, equality said: Would be nice to hear your experience moreover. Mikael, here's the AI song from Suno that I mentioned above. Not bad. I was going for a spacy, ethereal kind of track . I like it esp the vocal. Kind of wonder though where the AI engine or whatever it's called gets the melodies and arrangements and lyrics. I'm going to take the song down in a couple of days since it's not really mine. -Bjorn Edited March 16 by bjornpdx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark skinner Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 That was pretty cool Michael. I've been wondering how you could use an AI program like this to generate just a female harmony vocal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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