TheMaartian Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) Anyone else notice the message PreSonus posted on their forum, that they're shutting it down? They want you to purchase their subscription package or hang out on Bassfacebook. I'm not going to do either. The Studio One Pro v7 upgrade is the last $$$ they're ever going to get from me. Bitwig Studio v5 is proving to be very capable. Time to remove Studio One from my sig. Edited November 8 by John Maar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwallie Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 i'm sure another so-oriented forum will appear, altho i've had little reason to hardly ever visit the current one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragi Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 To bad, Presonus and this comes after Presonus faced criticism for its Pro Users over recent decisions around UG pricing etc. ? In general, I believe that the market for DAW developers is shrinking and that the providers are vying for every dollar etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Nothing like exorcising the support that creates the community that brings customers. It has been happening here too... you reap what you sow. When money is tight, the last thing you should do is bite the hand that feeds you. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 7 hours ago, mettelus said: Nothing like exorcising the support that creates the community that brings customers. It has been happening here too... you reap what you sow. When money is tight, the last thing you should do is bite the hand that feeds you. I fully expect this forum to be closed before too long and for that decision to be blamed on the dwindling number of users (that they seem to have been doing their very best to chase away). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 I haven't been there in years. It got really rough for a while, then the censoring and bans started, a bunch left, and it's been downhill since. It was a vibrant as this forum was back in the day. It's sad. But nothing, and I mean NOTHING I have ever seen compares to one of the admin over on teedeepeearreye. Myself and a lot of other left because of him. He would come in to the most innocent of threads and just brutally berate people unprovoked. I completely avoided him and then one day out the blue he started spewing on my replies. I left and never went back. He would block and ban at the drop of a hat. Real garbage. And not the good kind. SWIDT Anyway, I hope they don't shut this forum down. I hope they don't shut Presonus down. But there isn't anything we can do. It will feel like a close relative died if they ever shut this one down. It will be devastating to me. I've been here since they very first switched to the "old" forum. At least 20 years iirc. I was Shane or ShaneB originally iirc. Lost and forgot my password and created Bub, now I'm back to my real name again. We'll, I did make a couple posts as Mickey McFinnegan. Everyone thought it was Ed, Steve, or one of those guys, but it was me. Lol. Oh well. ☹️ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 (edited) The traffic in this forum will drop some when CbB is shut off. I don’t have a sense of how many people migrated to Sonar or if it’s drawn in many new Bandlab users. I have been wondering how long DAWs will last as AI takes over. I would assume even Bandlab will drop DAWs once they have an AI song generator working. It’s only a matter of time. Edited November 12 by Terry Kelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwallie Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 AI still needs creative input from a human (and is programmed by a human in the first place) so my expectation is the likes of top pop stars (eg, harry styles, madonna) will no longer be listing 20 different producers per track in the credits also, live music ftw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 At some point, AI will no long require teaching. But someone will still want credit. As it is, the amount of AI flooding the "music" sites is pretty startling plus the number of AI songs created that are released under multiple artist names to gain clicks. But if you look at the amount of content vs the "likes", it's beyond rational. Companies will continue to AI generate songs to maintain royalty income. No need to pay and artist and producer. I agree that live music (assuming it's not just backing tracks) will be the last bastion of Music. We just have to keep pushing our kids to learn to play an instrument with even the slightest skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwallie Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 19 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: the last bastion of Music don't confuse art with product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Oh, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwallie Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 15 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: Oh, ok. i couldn't give two hoots about "chart" "music" or "mainstream" "music" as they are pure product, and there's a zillion other songs and sounds to discover created for art's sake not dollar's sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 hoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted Monday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:20 PM And just like that ... it's gone. I just fired my PC up for the first time in almost 2.5 years and clicked on my shortcut to their forum. I forgot about this thread. Dead as of 7 days ago. So much history, friendships, nostalgia, all deleted with the click of a button. I can't even find an archive anywhere like there is with the old forum here. "We want to thank you for all of your posts, conversations and comments over the years, we appreciate it a lot." What a shitty, corporate, generic, un-heartfelt thing to say. Don't forget all the thankless technical help real world users provided. And to add insult to injury, it looks like there still is a community, but you have to be on the subscription plan to access it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted Monday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:34 PM Not all 100 million registered Bandlab users visit these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:13 PM 35 minutes ago, Wookiee said: Not all 100 million registered Bandlab users visit these forums. I don't believe there are 100 million users. I quote/mention this because there has to be a way, in this day and age of technology, to weed out the real users from the fake accounts and all that stuff. Anyhoo, it's sad. In this day and age of technology and communication options, you'd think the more avenues to communicate you have, the better. But I must be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:15 PM 1 hour ago, Shane_B. said: I don't believe there are 100 million users. I quote/mention this because there has to be a way, in this day and age of technology, to we-ed out the real users from the fake accounts and all that stuff. Anyhoo, it's sad. In this day and age of technology and communication options, you'd think the more avenues to communicate you have, the better. But I must be wrong. I am only quoting several different sources. Even if you half the figure it is still 50 million. But as my partner, who worked in market research, you prove anything with the right maths. Just remember not everyone feels the need to come to these sorts of forums to vent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveCamper Posted Monday at 09:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:10 PM 2 hours ago, Shane_B. said: And just like that ... it's gone. I just fired my PC up for the first time in almost 2.5 years and clicked on my shortcut to their forum. I forgot about this thread. Dead as of 7 days ago. So much history, friendships, nostalgia, all deleted with the click of a button. I can't even find an archive anywhere like there is with the old forum here. "We want to thank you for all of your posts, conversations and comments over the years, we appreciate it a lot." What a shitty, corporate, generic, un-heartfelt thing to say. Don't forget all the thankless technical help real world users provided. And to add insult to injury, it looks like there still is a community, but you have to be on the subscription plan to access it. Hey Shane, do not know if you seen it yet or not, but some user from the old forum started a new forum. Here's the link. https://studiooneforum.com/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted Tuesday at 01:19 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:19 AM 7 hours ago, Shane_B. said: And just like that ... it's gone. I just fired my PC up for the first time in almost 2.5 years and clicked on my shortcut to their forum. I forgot about this thread. Dead as of 7 days ago. So much history, friendships, nostalgia, all deleted with the click of a button. I can't even find an archive anywhere like there is with the old forum here. Dunno how much of it is there, but https://web.archive.org/web/20240501000000*/https://forums.presonus.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted Tuesday at 05:40 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:40 AM Out of curiosity I checked to see if S1 Toolbox is still up (Lukas is a dev), and it is. Ironically, the forum link in the upper right is already pointed to the new forum mentioned above. The last Wayback capture was in April, so it has quite a bit but I didn't dig into it. There was also mention of others intending to pull the site, but I am not sure if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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