Misha Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said: I still suspect that Sonar will eventually be made available via some sort of perpetual license +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 14 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said: @Creative Sauce seems to be soldiering on, but his channel was shot through with "look at this amazing DAW that you can get for free." unfortunately LUNA is still just a beta on Windows, just ran the update today and now some things work better, but i suspect it will still be a while to stabilise for it to be fungible on Windows for more serious folks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I wanted to at least look at Luna, but Luna could not even scan my plugins without crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Do you have version 1.6.1 installed? That version fixed a lot of those problems, but maybe not for everyone. I wouldn't give up on Luna too quickly if that is the only reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Luna doesn’t support ARA. So way off my list. And I feel it might be a good Daw for people who choose to buy in to their whole system of audio interfaces and plug ins. That is it’s strong point for sure but that’s possible why they made it free( for now?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 23 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: And you also get: Early access to beta creation tools like 32-tracks in Studio, Voice Cleaner, Voice-to-MIDI, AutoKey, and more. Unlimited Opportunities submissions to land live gigs, record deals, or mentorship from industry experts. Distribution to release your music on major platforms, track your releases, and keep 100% of the royalties you make. Fan Reach to market your music, build a contactable list of listeners, and grow your fanbase. Profile Boost to get your profile promoted to high-traffic spots on the BandLab feed. Permanent Member-exclusive features like a fifth guitar stem split on Splitter. Customizable profile banners and the option to feature up to five profile photos. I don't need any of those whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Martin Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, John Vere said: Luna doesn’t support ARA. So way off my list. And I feel it might be a good Daw for people who choose to buy in to their whole system of audio interfaces and plug ins. That is it’s strong point for sure but that’s possible why they made it free( for now?) Try Waveform 13 free. I like it. I'm an audio guy but use EZD3 and EZK2 and Melodyne. Waveform takes a minute to get used to but it's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 My conspiracy theory is the whole Bandlab membership is a ruse A soft launch marketing tactic, to test the waters and see how many new subscribers they can pick up. They will 100% already know that there's a whole swathe of users out there who want a perpetual licence and nothing else. My prediction is after a community backlash they will pivot into a dual model of subscription alongside a perpetual licence ( which will be more than the the sub ) to appease the masses and make themselves look good. And this will have been the plan all along. People always want something they can't have. It creates desire. It they launched both together they would sell less as there would be more apathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 39 minutes ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: I don't need any of those whatsoever Maybe you don't but that wasn't the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 16 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: Maybe you don't but that wasn't the point My point is I don't want to pay for stuff I have no need for 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) All of these sites prey on your ego and hopes of getting famous. You are paying them to string you along with the believe someone is going to all of the sudden offer you a lucrative recording contract (Get heard! Share your music! Colaborate!) but instead you get a steady stream of people offering to provide a large number of fake likes (promotion) for a "fee." Landr, SoundCloud, Bandlab, etc. are all the same. You pay for false hope. Yes, some do provide tools to get some songs produced (samples, loops, VSTs, etc.) and listeners can access your music but in the end it's just more come-ons to get money out of you. Cakewalk/Sonar being moved into that arena is borderline insulting and slimy. If you have good, solid tunes you can get them noticed by playing live and touring. Yes, it costs you money to start out but over time you will get some idea if there is a market for your product and the record producers will come to you. You're packing them in? Well, we have an offer ... Otherwise you are creating product that will just languish on the website. Yes, there have been a couple of instances where someone has been noticed on these sites and moved on to a successful career but your odds are next to zero and you will have just kept spending money. What many of us are asking is that the DAW be decoupled from this false hope so we can make music with a great tool either for ourselves or for others who can then decide how they want to pursue promotion. But don't make us subject to the continuous payment system that will not really do anything of value in the long run. We want the independence. Edited June 14 by Terry Kelley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I'm done with this Seems like certain people have lost the ability to reason and are wrapped up in conspiracy theories Might as well join a flat earth group 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Here is another flat earth conspiracy: Now, that the wording in FAQ of discontinuation is gone and with today's announcement by Jesse, I think it is safe to assume they will keep Cakewalk alive for at least a year or two. Perhaps much longer. Maybe they are just working to add certain features on top of HD GUI to add value to Sonar, so when it's ready for perpetual license release, there will be enough feature differences to seduce us, dear valued customers. For example, if it offered chord track / assist and it would be only available at higher tier, I would consider getting that version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 It's not flat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: It's not flat? Welcome to the new 2d realm where everything is flat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sasor Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Okay guys, i think people have had the chance to speak their minds, and we've moved beyond useful discourse. Thanks! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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