Not Liking the look of the New Sonar Interface

[Misha]

Nice!

 

[John T]

Since this seems to be the thread for this kind of thing:

The little diagrams of the crossfade options are missing in the new Sonar. I think that's bad for quick readability.

[sjoens]

And the red Activation required Toast note has hard-to-read black text.  Should be white!

[Shaan]

On 3/31/2024 at 2:22 PM, msmcleod said:

Apologies... looks like it's only in beta builds at the moment.

Anyhow, at least you know it's coming.... ?

Wow ?.... thank you for confirming that .  Looking forward to that build ?

[Glenn Stanton]

13 hours ago, John T said:

Since this seems to be the thread for this kind of thing:

The little diagrams of the crossfade options are missing in the new Sonar. I think that's bad for quick readability.

seems to be missing "linear fade in, linear fade out" ? 

[Xoo]

12 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

seems to be missing "linear fade in, linear fade out" ? 

Top line.

[Glenn Stanton]

4 hours ago, Xoo said:

Top line.

j.k. you need to fade out to fade in ? 

[Terry Kelley]

I believe that's get in to get out. But that's just me...

[mgustavo]

Hi, I read Sonar includes Pro Channel Concrete Limiter, but I couldn't find it. My previous paid software was Sonar Professional, maybe it could be related?
Thanks!

[Michael Vogel]

Pardon my ignorance - clearly I’m missing something as I’ve been focussing on watching for a release announcement but have either missed it or misunderstand what all the discussion is about.

Do I need a Bandlab Backstage Pass to access Next and/or Sonar?

Is that the full release of those products or are they still in beta levels of development with a release announcement yet to be made?

Or is there a yet to be announced alternative way to purchase Sonar?

[Salvatore Sorice]

From what I've learned, you can download/install Sonar. It is technically in pre-release status but is probably close to fully baked.

You need a Backstage Pass in order to save a project (after the 3-day trial period). I'd suggest paying for a monthly backstage pass until they formally release pricing, as we don' yet know whether it will be subscription based, one time price, both, etc.

[Salvatore Sorice]

On 4/5/2024 at 11:23 AM, mgustavo said:

Hi, I read Sonar includes Pro Channel Concrete Limiter, but I couldn't find it. My previous paid software was Sonar Professional, maybe it could be related?
Thanks!

In ProChannel, I see it under Insert Module:

 

[user905133]

The way I have read all the public posts, the Backstage Pass is the alternative way to pay for, download, and run the current early access versions of Cakewalk Sonar and Cakewalk Next.

There is also a way to download, run, and not pay for the early access versions that don't allow people to save their work-in-progress. 

 So far as I have seen there has been no announcement of an official release and pricing options for what will be the commercial products.**

 

**UPDATE:  2024 JUNE 14 [two months + later]:  There has been a recent update announcement / press release which has started to be discussed in a number of threads, including this one (a page or two down).  See also:

To me it looks like more update announcements are expected. 

Edited June 14, 2024 by User 905133
to add an update based on a recent announcement/press release

[mgustavo]

5 hours ago, Sal Sorice said:

In ProChannel, I see it under Insert Module:

Sal Sorice, thanks for the reply! However this plugin won't appear when I try to insert a module on ProChannel.
All the others are shown, like BReverb 2, CA-2A, Bark of Dog, etc., but this new one, at least to me, won't show.

I also tried to find where ProChannel effects are located but couldn't find it.

Edited April 8, 2024 by mgustavo

[David Baay]

24 minutes ago, mgustavo said:

I also tried to find where ProChannel effects are located but couldn't find it.

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\Internal\ProChannelConcreteLimiter

I bought it back in SONAR days so can't comment on it's availability in the new release.

[Bristol_Jonesey]

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\Internal\ProChannelConcreteLimiter

I bought it back in SONAR days so can't comment on it's availability in the new release.

It should be available both in CbB and the new Sonar.

It's there in both on my laptop which has never had anything earlier than CbB installed.

[slenderhead]

I had a weird thing on in when installing new Sonar, I found PC Saturation Knob missing.

weirdly fixed in both platforms with a VST plug in rescan and adding nothing new in terms of scan paths.

As, when it wasn’t showing…  strangely, it also stopped working in latest V of CbB.

could be something else, but thought worth mentioning. Tbf I haven’t even opened CbB, since all working again. As now totally loving the new look/feel for the Sonar.

 

 

[mgustavo]

David Baay, thanks for the reply! I found Concrete Limiter folder but the DDL file  seems to be missing. I also reinstalled Sonar but it did not solve the problem.

Another thing I noticed is that there are the download link and the beta access to Sonar, maybe could it be related?
Thanks!

 

Edited April 9, 2024 by mgustavo

[Quinellipe Zorn]

On 3/11/2024 at 3:34 PM, Hillmy said:

Tungsten. CbB:

Tungsten Sonar:

CbB:

Sonar:

CbB is more well defined and different color shades show more details and make things very clear at first glance. I don't mean blurry. I just mean that it is more clear in CbB to figure out everything at first glance. You can even tell the boundary boxes in console and inspector view. Nothing seems flat and you can tell when one section or box starts and ends. In Sonar the Sends don't even look like a box, just a flat plane. Also buttons don't look like obvious buttons. 

I'm sure Sonar can look like CbB with a little more work and I am sure vector graphics are not a limitation. If there is a way I could make it look like CbB myself I would but I am not sure if the option is even there. 

From the screen shots, the Sonar Tungsten seemed fine to me, no "significant" difference.  But that might be the difference of looking at these shots versus a live screen in front of me.  In any case, thanks much; to me it seems like whenever Bandlab is ready to be more clear about the commercial path generally it's looking fine to migrate to me/for my purposes.  But also not seeing any reason to change until I must.

[Quinellipe Zorn]

On 3/12/2024 at 12:04 PM, reginaldStjohn said:

Maybe I am just getting old but I don't think flat looks modern. I think it looks more retro and simplistic.  In the end I don't care that much but even the apps at my work are going more flat and minimalistic. I think it is more of a style, preference, then looking more modern or "better".

As a side note looking at Hillmy screen shots I would have to agree that the CBL images look "cleaner" and more defined then the Sonar ones.

 you're like me, old enough to see it come around again.  

from what I see it's a seesaw in underlying notions of what is crisp, what is attractive, what is frictionless; I doubt it will ever be "solved" (I remember, what was it, the '90s, the dream of every user having their own UI - I guess that will come back again sometime tho' is mostly disdained/in disrepute, and I do understand the issues with non-directed/non-best-practice UI paths