DeeringAmps Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 So is the Sonar “price of admission” the BandLab membership? If so I’ll convert my “3 days free” to a yearly membership. @Noel Borthwickinquiring minds want to know… t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Last time I had a back stage pass I ended up lugging guitars and keyboards and helping the stage crew set up. By the time I got to the green room the food was all gone!! I guess if you purchase this it will get rid of the nag screen which for me after 30 minutes kept returning every 3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 The activation had two choices - 3 days for $15 or 12 months for $150 (a 16% discount!) I suspect Sonar will be “pay forever” software. But that’s not in stone yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 43 minutes ago, pwal³ said: apparently you can pay for a "backstage pass" Yes, I did that (actually the “3 days free”, but that commits you to the monthly $15 if you don’t cancel) If the BandLab “backstage pass” is the price of admission, that’s fine. 17 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: I suspect Sonar will be “pay forever” software. That would be my preference as I said above “inquiring minds want to know “… t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I wonder if the license will allow for more than one installation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: wonder if the license will allow for more than one installation. Always has! t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, pwal³ said: Wasn't always subscription, things can change Ableton allow multiple installs but restrict who and when Steam allow sharing your library but not at the same time Let's see what comes, don't forget it's up to bandlab, not the bakers Yeah, it could be anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 34 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: The activation had two choices - 3 days for $15 or 12 months for $150 (a 16% discount!) I suspect Sonar will be “pay forever” software. But that’s not in stone yet. LOL, just LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: LOL, just LOL. What Terry didn't mention is the 3 days for $15 is a $15 a month recurring charge for membership in BandLab's Backstage Pass. It is NOT a fee to solely "unlock" Sonar. There's more included, its basically the paid BandLab membership. t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/5/2024 at 4:30 PM, pwal³ said: Wasn't always subscription, things can change Ableton allow multiple installs but restrict who and when Steam allow sharing your library but not at the same time Let's see what comes, don't forget it's up to bandlab, not the bakers Thanks for pointing that out... I think people forget this! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: What Terry didn't mention is the 3 days for $15 is a $15 a month recurring charge for membership in BandLab's Backstage Pass. It is NOT a fee to solely "unlock" Sonar. There's more included, its basically the paid BandLab membership. t Well that's a difference. There so much speculation but little info when it comes to licensing. Everyone fears the sub model and I wonder how many subs it takes to justify them. When Waves tried the sub only model which I'm sure was a kneejerk decision have they recovered from it? Not from me. Adobe Photoshop/Lightroom was a bargain at 10$ a month but check the price now. People eventually leave subs. Edited March 5 by kitekrazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, kitekrazy said: I don't see the need for Bandlab membership Nor do I but, Right now, that “activates” Sonar, small price to pay to get the “transition” going here for me. YMMV t Edited March 5 by DeeringAmps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: I wonder if the license will allow for more than one installation. Historically as many instances as you had machines, but only one in use at anyone time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 It was always a gentleman’s agreement. But don’t forget. Now they will be using a product manager and that might make things different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Wookiee said: Historically as many instances as you had machines, but only one in use at anyone time. Oh, I promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Terry Kelley said: Oh, I promise! Obliviously you do, for you are a gentleman! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 hours ago, DeeringAmps said: So is the Sonar “price of admission” the BandLab membership? If so I’ll convert my “3 days free” to a yearly membership. @Noel Borthwickinquiring minds want to know… t If you want to start using Sonar right away, backstage pass (which includes both Sonar, Next as well as other bandlab perks) is the only available option right now. There are plans for other purchase options but there isn't a known timeline just yet. Today you can get it monthly or get an annual BSP license upfront which is cheaper. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resonant Serpent Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So, this is the "final" public release of Sonar? Or, are we paying to beta the program? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillmy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Sonar has not been released yet. The BandLab Membership includes Early Access to software. Sonar is out of internal beta and is now offered as public early access. When Sonar is released it will no longer be "early access" and no longer be a part of the BandLab Membership. So if you purchase an annual subscription to BandLab Membership for the sole reason of using Sonar, then don't be surprised when you no longer have access to Sonar if it gets released in under a year and you have to actually buy the program to use it again. Just stating the obvious in case people don't like reading fine AND large print elsewhere and don't like figuring things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hill62 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Hillmy said: Sonar has not been released yet. The BandLab Membership includes Early Access to software. Sonar is out of internal beta and is now offered as public early access. When Sonar is released it will no longer be "early access" and no longer be a part of the BandLab Membership. So if you purchase an annual subscription to BandLab Membership for the sole reason of using Sonar, then don't be surprised when you no longer have access to Sonar if it gets released in under a year and you have to actually buy the program to use it again. Just stating the obvious in case people don't like reading fine AND large print elsewhere and don't like figuring things out. I would guess there will remain an early access to updates to Sonar and Next as part of the Back Stage Pass. I can't see them doing a bait and switch, and take away an obvious reason for purchasing the Back Stage Pass, an all-in-one package. It should continue to offer early access to the latest version of the software. Perhaps Noel or someone can clarify. Edited March 11 by Hill62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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