Robert Bone Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 This is a good explanation of the benefits of using M.2 2280 NVME PCIe drives, so if anybody is considering a new computer build, this info may be worth a read. I happen to have several of these drives, and they are screaming fast. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2899351/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nvme.html Bob Bone 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thanks Robert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 He makes a good case for the m.2 as the C drive. if the MOBO supports two m.2 drives, go for it. One caveat, I would keep the OS “lean and mean” prices are certainly coming down, but no need for 1T OS drives. Where the m.2 shines on my system is loading samples. Just my nickel98, YMMV Thanks for the link Bob. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: One caveat, I would keep the OS “lean and mean” prices are certainly coming down, but no need for 1T OS drives. Where the m.2 shines on my system is loading samples. +1, the "lean and mean" comes in for me with imaging the OS drive. A larger drive would work here, but I would partition it just for the imaging concern. The OS is more likely to get a bad driver load than the drive itself to fail, but both can happen. The other caveat is that the X4 NMVe slot is typically available to only one NVMe drive (at the cost of 2 SATA drive slots). That NVMe slot makes the ideal sample drive, and where the biggest/fastest NVMe would shine. Nice article Bob, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bone Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) I splurged and bought 2 NVME drives, one for boot drive, and the other for Komplete 11 Ultimate and other sample libraries. Both are Samsung 960 Pro 2 TB NVME drives. The new motherboard actually supports a 3rd drive, but I do not need one for the foreseeable future. CRAZY fast drives, though. Bob Bone Edited October 1, 2019 by Robert Bone Added some drive info 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarTekh Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 And the Clear Winner is : https://www.sabrent.com/rocket-nvme/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bone Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, StarTekh said: And the Clear Winner is : https://www.sabrent.com/rocket-nvme/ I have the Samsung 960 Pro 2TB drives which spec a bit faster on writes. They are all screamers. Bob Bone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarTekh Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) Hello Bob .. good to hear from you I also run a 960pro ….there very good and the price has dropped .. but still overpriced .. A little reading about the Rocket and you will see They Smoke @ss ! pcie 4.0 to boot ! Edited October 2, 2019 by StarTekh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StarTekh Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=asc_df_B07LGF54XR/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=335409498623&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8747512660057096339&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9047889&hvtargid=pla-618574262863&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phillips Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Robert Bone said: I splurged and bought 2 NVME drives, one for boot drive, and the other for Komplete 11 Ultimate and other sample libraries. Both are Samsung 960 Pro 2 TB NVME drives. The new motherboard actually supports a 3rd drive, but I do not need one for the foreseeable future. CRAZY fast drives, though. Bob Bone Me too Bob. My mb has a dedicated m2 slot and a pcie x4 m2 mounting card. I'm mostly recording & mixing audio mine are used for the C [boot] drive & the Cakewalk projects drive I have two Samsung ssds for everything else. I haven't measured but mine seem lighting fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Question from someone who has not paid much attention to PC development for a few years-- Do you need a newer MOBO to install these? My Mobo is a at least 5 years old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The article states that you can. All you need a PCI card for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon L. Jacobi Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) You need a compatible BIOS to boot from NVMe, but Windows will recognize it for secondary storage under any circumstances. On a PCIe card, that is. Edited October 2, 2019 by Jon L. Jacobi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Mettelus"The other caveat is that the X4 NMVe slot is typically available to only one NVMe drive (at the cost of 2 SATA drive slots). That NVMe slot makes the ideal sample drive, and where the biggest/fastest NVMe would shine." Good point, something I had forgotten that Jim explained to me when we set my Cat up. I'm a stickler for "redundancy" so I have a drive in every slot, for samples the 1T m.2 has me "covered" for the stuff I use most. I have a second sample drive, SSD, for the lesser used libraries. I never partition the OS drive for fear that when reinstalling the OS image, we all image frequently right?, I'll format the entire drive. again YMMV, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bone Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 8:03 AM, DeeringAmps said: He makes a good case for the m.2 as the C drive. if the MOBO supports two m.2 drives, go for it. One caveat, I would keep the OS “lean and mean” prices are certainly coming down, but no need for 1T OS drives. Where the m.2 shines on my system is loading samples. Just my nickel98, YMMV Thanks for the link Bob. Tom Yup - I concur - lean and mean on the boot drive. For many years now, I have moved my user folders, off to a separate drive (Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, and Videos), and I also customize any plugin content (when possible), to also have it located to any drive other than my boot drive. When I relocated my user folders, I went to the Properties of each of the folders, and clicked on the Location tab, and had already created a Users folder, with a Robert sub-folder, and Windows then moved the content of each folder to its new home. Please note that others use a technique where they create a soft link or Junction, to point Windows at the new locations for moved user folders - I just do it with the Location tab in the Properties dialog box for each folder. SO, on the boot drive, in addition to Windows, I leave AppData and ProgramData alone. Because not too much gets written to the boot drive at that point, it stays quite stable on its used space. Bob Bone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarTekh Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Cactus Music : I built A 2nd little system todo samples and stuff ….It has A Adata 8200 pro nvme in it .. the new system with a z390a asus and 16g of 3000mhz memory was quite cheep . but power full to them max ! 9600K is right up there with my 8086k that cost 2 times the price.. mother board processor memory .. need my free shopping list ? God I love ThunderBolt ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 @Robert Bone Thank you for the hyperlink. It's very timely for me as I'm just starting serious looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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