craigb Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shane_B. said: YouTube will let you upload anything. There are people uploading in 12K... I find that hilarious that they have resolutions over 4k! Unless it's broadcast on something like the huge screen inside a stadium, the human eye can't tell the difference between 4k and anything higher. So, why waste the time, bandwidth and storage on higher resolutions??? Edited November 13, 2023 by craigb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 The same people that record audio at 192KHz and complain that their interface doesn't support 384KHz. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, craigb said: I find that hilarious that they have resolutions over 4k! Unless it's broadcast on something like the huge screen inside a stadium, the human eye can't tell the difference between 4k and anything higher. So, why waste the time, bandwidth and storage on higher resolutions??? I don't get it either. It all has to do with compression IRT 1080 and 4K. You can't tell the difference between an uncompressed 1080 file and an uncompressed 4K file. The media at the time wasn't large enough to hold an uncompressed 1080 file on the Blu-ray disc. 4k UHD disc's are compressed too, but the media is larger and they use a better form of compression. IOW yeah, we actually do see a difference between most 1080 and 4K disc's, but its due to the compression they use. If you scanned a film twice, once at 1080 and once at 4K and viewed the uncompressed files they would both look the same on consumer TVs. I went through a phase where I wanted to put multiple movies on one Blu-ray disc. I figured out how to do it and bought some Blu-ray authoring software to make disc's playable in any player. That's when I discovered all these disc's are compressed. I had to figure out how to compress them even further using open source line command compression. I got the command lines worked out to where I couldn't tell the difference between the already compressed rips and my double compressed files. The trick was to prepare a file that was already Blu-ray compliant so the authoring software wouldn't force you to use their crappy compression method. I just dragged and dropped files in, made menu's, and that was it. There's certain flags that have to be in a file and framerates in order for the authoring software to say, ok this is an actual file that can be played in a U.S. player. I learned quick that the authoring software did a horrendous job at that. Lol. Newer movies use a new type of protection that is very difficult to circumvent. So that fun little project of mine came to an end quick. Lol But it was cool to get 10 movies that I couldn't see a quality difference in on one disc. That said, if you play the files from a PC or a server the protection is ignored. I'd like to get all of my disc's on to a server but I never got around to it. The Plex app allows you to create your own personal streaming service to access your own server from any device anywhere that you have it installed on. You just have to have your server on and you have a good enough internet connection at home. I always wanted to do that but setting up the server is difficult for a hobbyist like me. I like to own the actual physical media. I really don't like "subscribing" to streaming services like Netflix and all that. But it would be nice to rip my movie and audio collection and stream it from anywhere. Edited November 13, 2023 by Shane_B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveCamper Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 YouTube Sucks? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat! Where else can you watch this all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 hours ago, CoveCamper said: YouTube Sucks? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat! Where else can you watch this all day? If you look carefully, there's actually a kid dancing in that video! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Ok first of all, the visuals look stunning! Second: is Rumle worth the trouble of mirroring my Youtube content? With my limited knowledge of the platform I heard it was kind of an offshoot because youtube de-platformed some rightwing people who said "we'll make our own platform, with blackjack and hookers!" (for those not in the meme culture, it's a Futurama reference). But is there any music presence worth speaking of? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nick Blanc said: With my limited knowledge of the platform I heard it was kind of an offshoot because youtube de-platformed some rightwing people Without going to 'there', the difference is anyone is welcome to say anything they want on Bithchute and Rumble within reason. Don't advocate for anything illegal. Anyone's point of view whether you or I like it or agree with it or not is allowed. Left, right, up, down, sideways. That's what YouTube used to be. YouTube has taken censorship to the extreme and its not just on the so called 'right'. For example, there is a guy who had a huge woodworking channel called Doublereno. He did fractal wood burning and showed you how to make your own machine safely. After many years on youtube out of the blue they gave him 2 warnings for his content. After 3 warnings your channel is permanently banned. So he took them all down and is moving them to Rumble so his entire channel isn't erased on youtube. Meanwhile, there are dozens upon dozens of other channels that show the exact same content, and let me tell you, I'm shocked (lol) that those morons are still alive. The guy never talked politics, religion, nothing. It was purely woodworking, and he was forced out. Anyway, it's about over the top and out of control censorship. I dont even think youtube can control it anymore. The vast majority of it is AI controlled. That's why people of all ideologies are leaving YouTube. The only reason YouTube is the place to go for music is they cut a deal with the record companies and they get a huge cut of the forced ads that pop up. It's all about the money. Even covers that I have done get ads on them and they are all set to private and nobody can see them but me. Youtube had a lock on all devices for a long time. You still can't watch Bitchute on a TV via an app. And they just recently allowed Rumble as far as I can tell. My firestick would never let me download it until recently. But to be clear, this isn't just some r-wing conspiracy thing. YouTube's out of control censorship is being applied to everyone and that's why people are mirroring their content on other platforms now. The only reason YouTube is so popular right now is its competitors aren't allowed to have their app on most smart devices. They must have cut deals to create a monopoly. And Rumble as far as I can tell doesn't get their money from ads. They must take a cut from people who subscribe to content creators? I don't know. All I can say is I haven't seen a single ad pop up on Rumble since I've been watching it on my non-adblockable firestick. Edited November 15, 2023 by Shane_B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, pwal said: nor youtube if you use the right adblockers I've actually been thinking of subscribing to just get rid of the ads. You get ad free unlimited access to their dedicated music app as well as everything else. I use YouTube way more than anything else. I just got kicked out of Netflix. Had a deal with someone where they paid half and I paid half. Literally 3 days later they changed their TOS and you can only share logins now on the same wifi network in the same house. But to be honest, if I watch 5 movies a year on Netflix I'm exaggerating so I won't miss it. There's still a lot of great things on youtube, they just need to back off the censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 hours ago, pwal said: nor youtube if you use the right adblockers The one you want is Ad Block Plus (a browser extension). Others are being trapped by YouTube to try and get you to pay for their service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 hours ago, craigb said: The one you want is Ad Block Plus (a browser extension). Others are being trapped by YouTube to try and get you to pay for their service. I do (pay for premium) and it serves me well. No ads, free Youtube Music, no dodgy ad blockers, no 3rd party apps, premium content (which I don't watch, but still) and most importantly for me the ability to listen to Youtube with the app minimized (or the phone in my pocket). I'm sure there are other options with all kinds of apps and browser extensions etc. I even got a free Google Nest Mini at some point, although I figure that's just to spy on me ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, pwal said: and you're correct, initially netflix has tons of stuff to watch but quickly loses appeal (still better than prime tho haha) A few years ago, Netflix seemed to drop most of my favorite shows (Cheers, Frasier, That 70's Show) and started pushing more and more a lot or cheap foreign language content. I'm a foreigner myself, I speak a few languages, and to be honest, most of the movies I watch are in Japanese or Chinese. I just didn't like the way they went about it, so I unsubscribed for a bit. They do have a fantastic selection of K-Drama, if that's one's thing. I keep Netflix mostly for the next season of Extraordinary Attorney Woo. The one platform that keeps on surprising me is Tubi. They have lots of classic American series from the 60's, 70's and 80's, and tons of cool old horror movies, and some nice documentaries, too. Honestly I spend more time on Tubi and free platforms like Pluto than on any paid platform. There's ads, but that's why G-d invented the mute button. Amazon used to be great, but now it's like a hub. 3/4 of the movies I would be interested in require an additional subscription. And most of the free ones that I like come through Freevee, so there's ads too. Edited November 16, 2023 by Rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) The last time I tried Ad Block Plus it wouldn't work. I'll have to give it another go. You can also set your PC up to record anything and then just fast forward through the commercials. I watch a lot of Tubi and Freevee too. I actually feel bad about using the ad blockers. I get that they have to make money just to be able to offer anything at all, but it gets out of control. And I think a lot more people would be receptive to it if it was more reasonable. The streaming service I miss, that I just lost, is Discovery +. They have a lot of good shows. Especially the ghost hunting ones. Paramount + is really good too. I still have that for now but I don't know how long. I have access to Disney + also. I've watched 2 movies in the last year. The Beatles Let It Be documentary last year around Christmas when I was given access to Dis+ and I watched Home Alone last night. I would never ever pay full price for Dis+. You'd think they would learn from the gaming world and just put everything in one database and make watching a movie a "micro transaction" at a buck a piece. They'd be trillionares overnight. Edited November 16, 2023 by Shane_B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallstonefan Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Youtube was giving me warnings on Ad Blocker so I turned it off. Holly He$! I had not idea what a cesspool it is with ads! ? Loud ads that run right in the middle of your content. Ads that have no relationship to anything I've purchased or am interested in. Ads showing up NSFW. Ads that appeared to be outright scams. Just AWEFUL. ? I looked into premium but felt $14 a month was extortion. Then I saw that you can do a family plan. For $24 a month I covered me, my wife, as well as our two kids and their significant others. I felt that was a bargain, and was happy to give my kids the gift of youtube with no ads. I think they should drop the single monthly fee to around $7-8 and they would clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, smallstonefan said: Youtube was giving me warnings on Ad Blocker so I turned it off. Holly He$! I had not idea what a cesspool it is with ads! ? Loud ads that run right in the middle of your content. Ads that have no relationship to anything I've purchased or am interested in. Ads showing up NSFW. Ads that appeared to be outright scams. Just AWEFUL. ? I looked into premium but felt $14 a month was extortion. Then I saw that you can do a family plan. For $24 a month I covered me, my wife, as well as our two kids and their significant others. I felt that was a bargain, and was happy to give my kids the gift of youtube with no ads. I think they should drop the single monthly fee to around $7-8 and they would clean up. Adblock Plus. Not Ad Blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, smallstonefan said: looked into premium but felt $14 a month was extortion. Every once in a while I'll get an ad for premium offering 3 months free and $139 for 12 months after if you pay a year in advance. It has only come up when I'm watching it on my TV. I've never seen it come up when watching YouTube on my cell or PC. To me, that's not a bad deal for a single user. I also have XM. I get it for $7 a month. They raise the price significantly after a year, I call to cancel it, and they renew it for another year at $7. The tech support people even tell you to do that. He said to call back, and tell whoever I get on the phone I can't afford the price increase, and it's their standard policy to allow you to continue for your current rate. Even with XM, I only listen to a few channels. My brother just reactivated his XM radio for $5 a month. They run specials all the time. I'm seriously thinking of dropping XM and just getting YouTube Premium which includes the music app also. There are a lot of movies on YouTube also that are there legitimately. Not illegal rips that people post. Another good way to stream is Amazon. You can add a lot of big streaming services for a single month then cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveCamper Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I use uBlock Origin on Firefox. About a month ago I clicked on a video and it came up that using an adblocker was against the rules and they were going to chop my legs off or something like that. But all you have to do is go into the app and hit the "Purge all Caches " button. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveCamper Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shane_B. said: I also have XM. I get it for $7 a month. You talking about Sirius XM (satellite radio )? I pay about $40 for three months. I been thinking about dropping it but sometimes I have long drives for my job. Going to call now and threaten to cancel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, CoveCamper said: I use uBlock Origin on Firefox. Same here. Along with a couple of other things, I have an ad free browsing experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JnTuneTech Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This whole subject is so painfully amusing! Who has the best free stuff..? Why isn't it free any more?? Sounds like grumbling from Yosemite Sam (oops, I may have used a copyrighted reference...). ? I figured long ago that the majority of public entertainment, and now "access" to it via Internet, is all mainly bait & switch. Starts seemingly free, but gets you hooked, but eventually the anvil will fall, and we will pay somehow. I've always disliked most media advertising, starting for me in youth with TV commercials. Eventually I wanted to work in entertainment and media, and it took me a while to figure out how to get paid from that. Hmm. Also, in the 90's I shared some early Web material from my own server & connection. It slowly got taxing, in too many ways to want to bother with. Hmm again. -But I know, we all just want to watch, listen, to what we want for free. Yet really, would you just let any stranger come by and borrow your tapes, CDs, movies, any time they wanted, use them however they wanted, and so on? Have them ask you to play them some tunes they like whenever it suits them... For free? (Not including family and prospective partners - of course!) ? So we were optimistic about things like YouTube, -yes, it's the endless cycle of modern life I guess. Hmm. Maybe I should have taken note, and tried to go more the way of a roadrunner, and stayed farther away from the wily coyote types (metaphorically speaking) in life... Dag Namit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Yeah, well TV and radio commercials and print ads aren't so intrusive. They are passive and they come on after several songs in a row or between acts during the show. TV and radio commercials and print ads don't interrupt in the middle of a song. TV and radio commercials don't interrupt in the middle of someone speaking. TV and radio commercials and print ads don't pop up and cover what you are trying to watch or read . TV and radio commercials and print ads also don't spy on you; they don't follow you around or rely on the harvesting of your personal information and sharing of it with God knows who. Edited November 17, 2023 by Byron Dickens 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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