Now and Then

[Shane_B.]

Here's the full video version:

Here's the audio only version:

I swear there's a difference but maybe it's just me.

[hsmusic]

9 minutes ago, Shane_B. said:

I swear there's a difference but maybe it's just me.

If you mean the sound quality;

Video:Volume / Normalized
100% / 100% (content loudness 0.0dB)

Song: Volume / Normalized
100% / 59% (content loudness 4.5dB)

[Old Joad]

That vid" is really cool thanks for posting it.

I like the song, makes me miss my old band mates, maybe I'll call my old bass player and yell at him for trying to take over the band?

[Heath Row]

I don't like them Now, and I didn't like them Then.

Never got it personally, give me the Rolling Stones over them any day, and Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden every day.

 

[craigb]

1 hour ago, heath row said:

I don't like them Now, and I didn't like them Then.

Never got it personally, give me the Rolling Stones over them any day, and Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden every day.

 

If you've never heard the song, it won't take long to get to the main line that counts! ?

[Bapu]

1 hour ago, pwal said:

imho the beatles thing is better than the stones thing, and two of those beatles are dead already, but i don't rate either haha

On both band's songs that Macca plays on, the bass could probably be done by any player with only a year of experience. Run of the mill bass playing is what I heard. I can finally say that I'm a good as Macca (on those two songs).

[Bapu]

I have to admit that listening to the Beatles song while watching the video made it a more pleasant experience.

[craigb]

22 minutes ago, Bapu said:

On both band's songs that Macca plays on, the bass could probably be done by any player with only a year of experience. Run of the mill bass playing is what I heard. I can finally say that I'm a good as Macca (on those two songs).

But are we talking about the original or the replacement? ?

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[Jimbo 88]

On 11/4/2023 at 4:13 AM, Keith Wilby said:

I think they were right to cut that out. It seems a bit awkward and clanky to me and I think that the solo fits better. I do agree with @Shane_B. that there's too much compression. That said, I like it very much.

Yep I agree it was clanky,  but I think that John and Paul would have hashed out this section and it would have been a great part of the song.

[Notes_Norton]

I like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for different reasons. But I don't like every song either one of them recorded. Some connect with me, others don't, they are for someone else.

That's pretty much the same for every artist/group that I like. Even my all-time favorite sax players, Stan Getz and Stanley Turrentine have some cuts that really don't do anything for me, and others that put me in a trance.

 

Insights and incites by Notes ♫

 

[Rain]

13 hours ago, Notes_Norton said:

I like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for different reasons. But I don't like every song either one of them recorded. Some connect with me, others don't, they are for someone else.

That's pretty much the same for every artist/group that I like. Even my all-time favorite sax players, Stan Getz and Stanley Turrentine have some cuts that really don't do anything for me, and others that put me in a trance.

 

Insights and incites by Notes ♫

 

I also like both for different reasons, but also in very different proportions.

I probably like 90% of the Beatles' catalog, and the remaining 10% is nothing that I really mind listening to. Besides Revolution 9, I don't really think there's much I skip when listening to their records, and I listen to all their albums. Not saying that it's all great, but for one reason or another, I enjoy most of it.

The Stones, there's probably 10% that I like, much of the rest I just can't be bothered to listen to, and then some stuff that is, to my ears, simply awful - sometimes entire records.

Of couse, they've had a much longer career. The percentage would be greater if we only looked at the 60's and 70's, but still nothing close to the Beatles. Even the albums that I really like usually have a few songs that I consider stinkers.

But I wouldn't want to be in a world without those Stones songs that I really like. And Keith.

[Keith Wilby]

55 minutes ago, Rain said:

I probably like 90% of the Beatles' catalog, and the remaining 10% is nothing that I really mind listening to. Besides Revolution 9, I don't really think there's much I skip when listening to their records, and I listen to all their albums. Not saying that it's all great, but for one reason or another, I enjoy most of it.

The Stones, there's probably 10% that I like, much of the rest I just can't be bothered to listen to, and then some stuff that is, to my ears, simply awful - sometimes entire records.

I'm with you on the first para there although I'm probably nearer to 95%. I actually don't mind Rev 9, I'd be more likely to skip Good Night off that LP. I like the non-UK "Out of our Heads Stones" LP, along with "Beggars Banquet" and "Let it Bleed". I've tried to "get into" some of their other stuff like "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile" but there's just something lacking in them for me.

Different strokes.

[Rain]

30 minutes ago, Keith Wilby said:

I'm with you on the first para there although I'm probably nearer to 95%. I actually don't mind Rev 9, I'd be more likely to skip Good Night off that LP. I like the non-UK "Out of our Heads Stones" LP, along with "Beggars Banquet" and "Let it Bleed". I've tried to "get into" some of their other stuff like "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile" but there's just something lacking in them for me.

Different strokes.

Funny that you mention Good Night because it crossed my mind. Actually, I probably skipped it more often that Revolution 9 when I was listening to them all the time.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Rain

[Bapu]

My top Stones record is Exile as I recall. Have not listened to it in its entirety in ages.

[Bapu]

Roughly 5% of the Beatles are clunkers for me. Yellow Submarine, tops that list. Till There Was You is wasted air space. Some days I like Octopuses Garden, other days, nah! Blue Jay Way I will skip/turn off/change station.

I saw Ringo's All Star Band with Jack Bruce one year. Even Jack could not save YS, I went to the loo.

I am a proud near constant Beatles Channel listener on SiriusXM when I drive, unless I'm testing a mix of a song I'm working on.

[Keith Wilby]

36 minutes ago, Bapu said:

Roughly 5% of the Beatles are clunkers for me. Yellow Submarine, tops that list.

I was surprised to hear the earliest demo for YS was sung by John: "In the town where I was born, nobody cared ...". Could have been an entirely different song.

[Rain]

Back in the days, I was so anxious to put my hands on anything by The Beatles that even poor audio quality recordings such as the ones on this record would be played constantly.

I learned every track on that thing because we always needed more songs when we played weddings and ballrooms and such. Much of it they eventually recorded on their first few albums but there were a few odd numbers that never made it on any official record. And I was still discovering their official discography, anyway. 

In many cases, it was the first time I was exposed to those songs (Be-Bop-A-Lula comes to mind).

I thought it was amusing because a lot of material was stuff that The Beatles themselves had learned because they needed to play for hours every night back then. 

Man, I love the Beatles. They weren't even around anymore when I was born and I feel I owe them so much.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Rain

[Keith Wilby]

23 minutes ago, Rain said:

Man, I love the Beatles.

Same.

When I was 5 (in 1965) I used to visit my much older cousin on Sundays. She had loads of singles by, as it turned out, many different artists, and she used to let me play them. As young as I was, and without knowing it, I always favoured her Beatles records. There was just something about them that was different, better. I was unwittingly picking up on the standard of production and arrangements too. There was, for example, only one record that started with, what sounded to me then like "dummmm ... yahhhh" - I Feel Fine. It sounded like Robert the Robot from Fireball XL5 ?

There was a magic that I detected that wasn't on other records. It wasn't til much later that I realised that these records were all by the same group.

[Rain]

This is a direct result of the album above - I learned that song off of the Live at the Star Club record, years before I even heard the (demo) studio version. Not sure I'd have ever heard such a song otherwise, to be honest. They exposed me to a lot of music.

A minute of me noodling around on a demo for a project with my then-wife and overdubbing guitars. I don't think it's quite as good as theirs, but we were going after a different energy. 

 

[craigb]

I almost inadvertently got to see the Beatles when they came out to the West Coast.  But, my parents, who were not fans, used my young age as an excuse to not go.  Not sure what I would have remembered from the event, but it would have been cool to say I had "seen" them!