Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Simple question. No need to start a major war by any ignorant people. Forgive me that I just gleaned through the now closed 35 + page thread about the upcoming new products so I may have missed it, but how will we be informed when Cakewalk Next and Cakewalk Sonar will become available? Will it be through the Bandlab Assistant, or an email or some other way? Again, simple question. Would greatly appreciate a simple answer. I don't mean to sound so blunt, but lately on this forum some questions are met with such caustic ignorance by a small handful of people here (claiming to be "helpful"). Frankly, it's gotten to the point where I'm almost afraid to ask anything. Thanks ?John B Edited August 1, 2023 by Johnbee58 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: Simple question. No need to start a major war by any ignorant people. Forgive me that I just gleaned through the now closed 35 + page thread about the upcoming new products so I may have missed it, but how will we be informed when Cakewalk Next and Cakewalk Sonar will become available? Will it be through the Bandlab Assistant, or an email or some other way? Again, simple question. Would greatly appreciate a simple answer. I don't mean to sound so blunt, but lately on this forum some questions are met with such caustic ignorance by a small handful of people here (claiming to be "helpful"). Frankly, it's gotten to the point where I'm almost afraid to ask anything. [emphasis added to call out insulting language used by the OP] Sorry if you misinterpreted my post(s) as caustic and you think of me as ignorant. (Not really an apology; saying "sorry" in an insincere statement is something I have seen other people do. Never liked that, but now I see that sometimes such a response is appropriate). I take offence at your use of name-calling / insults. Your phraseology belies any claims about your asking a "simple question" and not wanting to stir up "a major war." Edited August 1, 2023 by User 905133 added a line about the OP's phraseology; added "[emphasis added]" to quote in the interest of clarity 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) How will we be informed when Cakewalk Next and Cakewalk Sonar are available? Will it be through the Bandlab Assistant, or an email or some other way? Edited August 1, 2023 by User 905133 grammatical correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Good point that once beta testing is done the new products might be open to Early Access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 @User 905133 thanks for re-posting the question in a polite format. @Lord TimThat’s what I figured. Not sure what the rules are for people beta testing. Are they expected to keep silent or are the testers allowed to make open comments in the early access forum? I signed up for Next but haven’t gotten any mail yet. Are people testing already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, User 905133 said: Sorry if you misinterpreted my post(s) as caustic and you think of me as ignorant. (Not really an apology; saying "sorry" in an insincere statement is something I have seen other people do. Never liked that, but now I see that sometimes such a response is appropriate). I take offence at your use of name-calling / insults. Your phraseology belies any claims about your asking a "simple question" and not wanting to stir up "a major war." Who said anything about you? I wasn't talking about you. I had nothing against you until now. You're not the one I was complaining about. How did you come to that conclusion? Edited August 1, 2023 by Johnbee58 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnbee58 said: Who said anything about you? I wasn't talking about you. Thank you for clarifying that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 It doesn't matter to me anymore. I've just decided that I've had enough of Cakewalk. The product is fine but there are just too many people on this forum that I've gotten tired of over the years. Byron Dickens gets away with making trouble on almost every forum he posts on and seems to get away with it. I'm just reacting to mainly his type of hostility. In 2019 I posted a question that a (now) moderator misunderstood and raked me over the coals over it. The product' great and so are the creators but I can't stand this forum anymore. I'll be buying FL Studio. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) As I said, I really don't enjoy being hostle to anybody, but apparently not all of us feel that way. I was merely trying to protect myself from a response like "This was addressed in the thread. Can't you read?" by a certain troublemaker. If we wouldn't have such rude people on this forum we could all get along better. But, sadly the moderators seem to allow it. With the exception of the aforementioned Mr. D, I apologize to anyone I've offended here. ?John B Edit: Still considering Cakewalk. I just wish I could feel free to ask a question without feeling like I have to proactively protect myself from the rude responses from certain kinds of "helpful" people. ? Edited August 1, 2023 by Johnbee58 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: It doesn't matter to me anymore. I've just decided that I've had enough of Cakewalk. The product is fine but there are just too many people on this forum that I've gotten tired of over the years. [redacted] gets away with making trouble on almost every forum he posts on and seems to get away with it. I'm just reacting to mainly his type of hostility. . . . [redacted by User 905133] Ohhhhhhh. Now I remember that thread. I thought that had been resolved. I guess I was wrong. 31 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: As I said, I really don't enjoy being hostle to anybody, but apparently not all of us feel that way. I was merely trying to protect myself from a response like "This was addressed in the thread. Can't you read?" by a certain troublemaker. If we wouldn't have such rude people on this forum we could all get along better. But, sadly the moderators seem to allow it. With the exception of the aforementioned [redacted] I apologize to anyone I've offended here. [redacted by User 905133] I stand by my belief that all of that baggage did not need to be brought up in asking the question here. Peace. Edited August 1, 2023 by User 905133 (2) personal references removed [redated] so as not to repeat the reference; (1) quotation # 1 truncated for the sake of clarity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Boileau Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Am I wrong to just believe that the bakers will simply post on this forum when it is available and give us all the details on how to install it? I just don't need to worry anymore than read this forum like I always do and I am confident I will be informed. Noel and others have always communicated effectively through this forum when new stuff is available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 I wish I could feel that is wasn't either. AsI said, I was protecting myself. See how much trouble one rude person can cause? And no, that 2019 issue wasn't resolved because John never apologized to me like a man would. If he would care to apologize to me for misunderstanding my question that day I could be quite forgiving. I would be glad to give the link as the thread is still there. JB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said: Am I wrong to just believe that the bakers will simply post on this forum when it is available and give us all the details on how to install it? I just don't need to worry anymore than read this forum like I always do and I am confident I will be informed. Noel and others have always communicated effectively through this forum when new stuff is available. I'm sure they will. Just wanted know HOW. ?JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 Yeah. I'm willing. Let's keep it friendly. I shouldn't have made it the way I did. I apologize to all. I shouldn't have stooped to "their level". ?John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I'm sure there will be a big announcement when it is released. I asked to try out Next but haven't got an invite yet. Maybe I won't. Plus I'm sure emails will be sent out and I bet for the folks that have Bandlab on their phones will get an announcement especially about Cakewalk Next. @Johnbee58 I'm sad the other thread was locked too. I thought members could of got a warning and been suspended for a few days or a week. Sometimes us old forum posters do get carried away but most of us do it in fun. Do try out the new versions and then go from there as if you want to have "a relationship" (jk) with a new DAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johnbee58 said: Yeah. I'm willing. Let's keep it friendly. I shouldn't have made it the way I did. I apologize to all. Since I called out the insults you brought in when framing your legitimate question, I have removed my "thumbs down" emoji from your original post in recognition of your apology. Peace. Edited August 1, 2023 by User 905133 added "in recognition of your apology" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phillips Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Johnbee58 said: Yeah. I'm willing. Let's keep it friendly. I shouldn't have made it the way I did. I apologize to all. I shouldn't have stooped to "their level". ?John B I suggest you read through this thread. I believe you'll see that the only person being in any way aggressively or disrespectfully here is you in your references to "they" and their undisclosed transgressions. To me, it sounds to me that you're trying to pick a fight over some past transgressions that maybe only you remember. Also, going back to 2019 might indicate you hold a grudge too long. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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