King Burton Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Did the DREADED and SEVERELY DESPISED Cakewalk update and now Toontrack (EZD 2 & SD2) drums stopped working. Uninstalled Cakewalk and Toontrack, fresh re-install. Same issue. What I see is a routing issue. Cakewalk track route choices show 1L or 1R or 1L/R. etc. and so on for each. However, Drum prog channel route shows Channel 1, Channel 2, etc. Clearly no one is talking together. Dug thu preferences and all is correct. Scan/re-scan VST ~20 times. This UPGRADE feature has costed me a week of no production. Anybody have an idea how to fix? Win11 i9-1100K 64G 1T Presonus 8-chan Firestudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Do not use 32bit Toontrack plug-ins (as shown in the image above) in 64bit DAWs. They are known to cause problems. Toontrack only supports their 64bit plug-ins in 64bit hosts. This has been the case since Toontrack released its first 64bit plug-ins years ago. In general, when running a 64bit host, unless there is a problem with the 64bit plug-in, use the 64bit version when both 32 and 64bit versions are available. avoid using 32bit plug-ins as they are often long out of support relying on outdated technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Burton Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Thx Scook. Checked to be sure. Both EZDrummer 2 and Superior Drummer 2 installs are 64bit. Also checked other 32b VSTs and they work fine. Toontrack seems to be the only issue. Edited December 28, 2022 by King Burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The image in the OP shows SD2 loaded in BitBridge. Bitbridge only works with 32bit VST plug-ins. Toontrack does not support 32bit SD2 running in a 64bit host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 23 hours ago, scook said: The image in the OP shows SD2 loaded in BitBridge. Steve, Please explain where you see SD2 is loaded in BitBridge. I'm using the screen shot and your response as a way to better understand what is displayed in the screen shot and I'm not seeing the BitBridge connection you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 @Jim Fogle - this type of toolbar is shown whenever a plugin is wrapped by BitBridge: It's got the BitBridge icon in the top left hand corner, and doesn't have any of the options or menus that appear when using a plugin directly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 @msmcleod, Thank you for the response. That is a nice little piece of information to know. I didn't know it before but now I do. I didn't even know BitBridge had an icon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Burton Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 Wow! KILLER ANSWER!!!! Yup, 64b in a 32b = FAIL. AMAZING!! Scook - speaks to your answer. Begs the Qs: What could I have done in a Cakewalk upgrade to cause that? How to load VSTs without bitbridge involvement? (Got SD2 working but EZD2 64b crashes Win11. - BUT I don't know if bitbridge is the culprit there. Will experiment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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