KSband Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Is the consensus that windows 11 upgrade is pretty safe with cakewalk? I feel tempted to do it but also afraid of the consequences. Anyone still have unresolved issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, KurtS said: Is the consensus that windows 11 upgrade is pretty safe with cakewalk? I feel tempted to do it but also afraid of the consequences. Anyone still have unresolved issues? If you don't want to take any chances, and are determined to upgrade to Win 11, you may want to consider buying a new computer with Win 11 installed and running it in parallel with your old computer. At least until you have Win 11 up and running well with your music projects. Everyone's setup is different, so you never know if something might go sideways with an upgrade. No guarantees! Windows 10 is supported until October 14, 2025. So no rush! Let Microsoft get the details right first, unless you wish to be an informal beta tester! https://www.howtogeek.com/741245/dont-panic-you-can-keep-using-windows-10-until-2025/ Edited February 27, 2022 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSband Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 This computer is only about a year old so not going to get a new one. I think I will continue to stall on the update. When I switched from my old computer to this one it was about a week of computer hell trying to get cakewalk with all the plugins working right again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Riddell Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Pro Channel tools are missing and/or not working, along with some other essential tools like Boost 11 and Sonititus Compressor. I did have core isolation on when i installed Cakewalk, and subsequently have turned that off when the SES driver for my external HDD would not install. Turning it off got the SES driver installed so I'm going to try uninstall/reinstall of Cakewalk to see if that resolves the issue. I'll post again with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, John Riddell said: Pro Channel tools are missing and/or not working, along with some other essential tools like Boost 11 and Sonititus Compressor. I did have core isolation on when i installed Cakewalk, and subsequently have turned that off when the SES driver for my external HDD would not install. Turning it off got the SES driver installed so I'm going to try uninstall/reinstall of Cakewalk to see if that resolves the issue. I'll post again with the results. One thing I know can definitely cause issues with the ProChannel, is if the folder that contains them is compressed. Make sure the following folders are uncompressed: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Plugins Although that may explain some of what you're seeing, it doesn't explain Boost 11 / Sonitus Compressor not appearing... that would indicate that a VST scan wasn't done ( Boost11 ) and the Sonitus plugins weren't registered. A full reinstall of Cakewalk followed by a VST scan should fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Riddell Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Thank you, it appears that Core Isolation being turned on Device Security was the issue. However, the option to not show the plugins that I selected because they did not work initially was also causing an issue on any subsequent uninstall/reinstall that I had tried. So, I looked up how to clean uninstall the software, which involved removing reg keys and program file entries along with Roaming app data ( i found this info on the Cakewalk website) has resolved the issue. Now all the plugins show up and work correctly. The VST scan found everything and I tested the plugins to verify they are working. Thanks for the quick response though, I really appreciate the support. Cheers, John R. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I've just got a used Dell XPS i7 16gb running Windows 11. I was expecting it to handle CbB with ease, only to find to my horror that it can't even run an empty project without audio dropping out. ? I'm going through all the online hints and tips to try and resolve this problem. Has any gone through anything similar with Dell XPS 15 touch 9570? Could anyone offer some help? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Philip G Hunt said: I've just got a used Dell XPS i7 16gb running Windows 11. I was expecting it to handle CbB with ease, only to find to my horror that it can't even run an empty project without audio dropping out. ? I'm going through all the online hints and tips to try and resolve this problem. Has any gone through anything similar with Dell XPS 15 touch 9570? Could anyone offer some help? ? Have you already taken the usual recommended steps to optimize your PC for audio? https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/windows-11-pc-optimization-for-recording/ https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/pc-optimization-guide-for-windows-10/ It would be helpful to post your audio hardware specs and audio settings. And it never hurts to run "LatencyMon" to see if you have a driver hogging your system. It's pretty technical, but just know that green means your PC is good to go for real-time audio. If red, post your results... https://resplendence.com/latencymon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Stoner Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 There are two options, as I see it, to tame a Dell laptop. I have a Dell Inspiron 15 Gaming 5577 that I use for mobile (on site) recording. As shipped from Dell it had latency and dropouts. Everything I tried helped but it was still not 100% clean (I was getting a dropout about every 8 minutes when recording). The PC was shipped with an M.2 SSD and had space to add a laptop hard drive or a full size SATA SSD. I had a spare SSD so I installed that and created a dual boot system, One install was the original Dell image that I could use for "regular" PC work and the second install was my recording and only had Windows, needed drivers and recording software. I can run latency mon for hours and no issues. Barring the dual boot, the first thing to do is disable Dell Support Assist. We find on the Dell support forums that Support Assist can be one cause of latency. There are a lot of people using Dell's for DAW work, just takes some time to tame it. We also find disabling internet can have a positive effect on audio as Wi-Fi is an often cause of audio "popping/crackling/droputs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On 3/4/2022 at 11:14 PM, abacab said: And it never hurts to run "LatencyMon" to see if you have a driver hogging your system. It's pretty technical, but just know that green means your PC is good to go for real-time audio. If red, post your results... https://resplendence.com/latencymon Here are the results from Latencymon It appears that my system is suitable, yet I'm having issues trying to run CbB using the laptop's inbuilt audio. Even an empty project. I can get stability when using a USB external sound device. : CONCLUSION _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts. LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:02:14 (h:mm:ss) on all processors. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Edited March 6, 2022 by Philip G Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Philip G Hunt said: I can get stability when using a USB external sound device. There's your easy answer! I have no idea how to tame the on-board audio on a Dell, but it sounds like you quite possibly have an audio driver causing the audio dropouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Stoner Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Dell's use Waves MaxxAudio Pro for audio jack detection and some other audio functions. This app only works with the Dell sound driver, and the PC needs the Dell model specific sound driver. The internal PC audio tends to have more latency than a USB connected recording interface device. Try increasing buffer sizes with the internal sound. To add to my previous post noting my Dell laptop. If I use the NVIDIA video I get latency and dropouts. If I use the Intel CPU Video I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Philip G Hunt said: I can get stability when using a USB external sound device. Problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Jack Stoner said: Dell's use Waves MaxxAudio Pro for audio jack detection and some other audio functions. This app only works with the Dell sound driver, and the PC needs the Dell model specific sound driver. The internal PC audio tends to have more latency than a USB connected recording interface device. Try increasing buffer sizes with the internal sound. To add to my previous post noting my Dell laptop. If I use the NVIDIA video I get latency and dropouts. If I use the Intel CPU Video I do not. I turned off the Nvidia drivers, but same issues. However, I got the audio working in the end without drop outs. I can use the onboard audio drivers if they are 'shared' and not 'exclusive'. I don't know why that works, but it does. Thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kendrick Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Has anyone had and resolved issues with BitBridge on windows 11 and 32-bit plugins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Stoner Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Win 11 appears to be a non issue for most with fully compatible (meet Microsoft's spec's) systems. Now "Windows 12" is on the distant horizon. When, what, hardware requirements? I'm not finding much but the owners of tenforums.com and elevenforum.com have created a "twelveforum" site so there must be enough substantial info for the forum to be created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4INT Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I just updated to Win 11 and Cakewalk start to bugging out, if i try to record anything live the audio output will drop out and i cannot hear anything, this bug occur no matter what sound device i use (I have tried internal soundcard, computer speakers, M-audio M-Track Duo, a cheap sound interface I bought from Ali), I tried all driver setting (WASAPI Shared, WASAPI Exclusive, MME...) nothing work. I'm using a Acer Aspire 3, my former laptop which is Dell Precision M6800 (running Win 10) and Asus Vivobook (running Win 7) never have this problem. Please help, thanks alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 That's because there's no W11 driver for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 New Lenovo Legion laptop w/Windows 11. Mostly like it tho not a fan of all the iOS nods. Any Win11 tweaks to make CbB work better? Currently there's some hesitation with Play and Pause but my interface is obsolete and no Win11 drivers for it. New interface on the way so hoping it performs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) I just upgraded to Win 11 from Win 10 on a laptop I got 6 months ago or so (not my DAW). I checked the usual optimizations, but everything carried over from what I had set on win 10. I don't know of anything specific for Win 11. Enjoy the new machine. Edited October 26, 2022 by rsinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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