Create 7/8 MIDI Groove Clip in a 4/4 project?

[Agincourtdb]

On 3/26/2021 at 5:41 AM, msmcleod said:

I rarely use groove clips myself, but I do use 7/8 a lot and in some cases change time signatures every few bars or so.

This is what I would do:

1. Do what @Colin Nicholls suggested - make it twice the length so it's aligned to 1/4 notes, then slip edit the clip back to 3.5 beats long
2. Change the time signature for that bar to 7/8, setting the time signature back to 4/4 on the next bar. This will mean everything is properly measure aligned.

 

#2 doesn't work because the hypothetical 7/8 clip will be running against clips of different lengths. 7/8 against 8/8. Against 6/8. 11/8 against 12/8  15/8 against 14/8. And so on. It's process music, think Steve Reich. 'Measures' don't matter at all. Thanks for the suggestions though.

[msmcleod]

@Agincourtdb - If I understand correctly, you want a 7/8 clip to play in the space of a 4/4 bar or 8/8 bar?

In that case, it's pretty straightforward - you can use Process->Fit To Time:

[msmcleod]

If this isn't what you meant, and what you want is simply a 7/8 groove clip then do this:

[msmcleod]

The final method (which IMO is the quickest), is to use the pattern tool:


 

[Agincourtdb]

On 5/15/2021 at 9:15 PM, msmcleod said:

The final method (which IMO is the quickest), is to use the pattern tool:


 

Yeah I think this is the best workaround. I have also discovered that Ableton *does* allow MIDI loops to be any length, so I may also pick up a copy of Live Intro. Don't really like the interface but maybe I can get used to it enough for the next project. Thanks for the help!

Edit: Also, just got Project 5 working again! Apparently it didn't like there being an entry in the sound devices list for my bluetooth headphones, because once those were disabled, BAM, she started right up. So as it stands now I'll be creating the MIDI in P5 where MIDI looping is *incredibly* easy, and then importing the MIDI into Sonar or Bandlab for actual mixing/tweaking.

Edited May 20, 2021 by Agincourtdb
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[David Baay]

So when do we get a to hear this piece? I'm a big fan of unusual time signatures, syncopation, counterproint, etc