Piotr

I hate them! I would like it to try now, at once... No wait anymore... Probably I would prefer not to know about , as nothing new just adding stress not having it yet, grrr.... They could add at least little bit more info every day of waiting... Not just pain to waiting ?

Don't be sad There will be some nice deals for Kontakt. I got it as crossgrade deal to library which gave me such possibility. But there are also free ones which can give it Sooner or later you will grab it anyway as it not only provides platform for many great plugins but also come with some nice and usable samples

The answer is the question... Are you sure you will use it ever after buy? If not it is not worth any price... If you have something similar to ProQ3, I truly doubt it... Yes it has additional tools but will you use EQ just to use them? And those tools are also available in other PA plugins...

I fully agree Even if there is any clear difference often there are doubts for pricey plugins if that difference is worth such money... Or sometimes in blind test not beeing under marketing spells which one actually sounds better Or another point do I need every color possible to use to do what I want?

Nope, only Kontakt without a player Player needs to buy license for Kontakt first

Go, go, Zo o I was little discouraged by their reaction to my report few years ago about problem with presets in VST3. In fact lack of nay reaction. Many many month later issue still existed... So if they didin't listen to I just stopped to wait and started to ignore their VST3 and use only VST2 version. But lost my believe they really care about constant improvement... Seemed to me like thinking is way: they can sell anyway so why additional effort to do everything already released better? Notice how long we are waiting for bigger windows to be able actually see any numbers/letters on smaller screens... People are using laptops on their road ... I know, I know we should use ears... But it is only half of true... Using also eyes make process much faster and less painful. And more reliable because it is easy to fatigue hearing... And to be honest my eyes are not very sharp so I need bigger things to feel comfortable Yup, understood... But you probably know how it feels when somebody is saying to you I have great news, you will be very exited but... well... I cannot say you anything ? I believe such kind of messengers in Ancient Greek were treated in the first place as legends are saying

Grrr... Zo, you are always doing this ? Giving some a rumor but no even small details what is making people so curious... Anyway PA could learn from Melda for sure one thing, some sharing libraries for GUIs... If they are fixing something it relates to all their plugins at once... Clever and convenient... In PA plugs there is terrible mess... Some newest amps have switch to turn off included IRs (instead worst idea ever to click over long list), rest not. Some has possibility to resizes, others not Even inside the same brand... I hope you mean something like this.... Resize for all ! Turn off IR switch for all, Advanced features for all plugins of the same type... External side chain for all dynamic plugins And free voucher for all

Ha, interesting trick... They started adding to their RIGs new virtual gears... In Soldano RIG there is also Micropitch Pedal added which is not included in full TH-U And in Brit Silver Jub and Mad-in-Italy MK50 there is added SL Guitar EQ...

Yup! Everybody has her/his own needs and taste so we have plenty of choices and more variety on the market which results in more deals But anyway please let us know if you still like it after tests

Hm, are they blind somehow? Even on those demos one can see easily how stupid and painful is linear long list of cabs to change one to another... They hired antiworkflow officer or what? Anyway from my perspective nothing to be exited but still ancient design mistakes... I am pretty happy not feeling any need to buy another amp sim Maybe after crossing threshold 1.3 zylion sims GAS is decreasing?

The ribbon thing letting blend between 2 settings of different knobs positions, can be also MIDI controlled. Quite interesting approach And sounds great not only on guitars but also on pianos or even vocal. Edit: Forgot mention I like it on strings as well

Totally agree I remember I asked XLN few years ago to provide functionality for AD2 to read audio and generate matched groove for accents. This is direction I am always after Be able to avoid hard and tedious work with preparation tracks for instruments I cannot play at decent quality and get it generated by program Another instruments would be very, very welcome So in 2040 all musicians replaced by AI and in 2050 all audience replaced by AI

Peter, Peter, will be Mic Room extended by more models and further improved, please? This plugin has such great potential

This 'issue' is overdemonized... Solution is very simple and used by pros for years... If project is done just print your tracks with effects into stems and that's all. If you wanted to remix the project after some years you would most likely use your favorites plugins at that time - not those used years ago (otherwise you would have still using them, right? To keep all old plugs working you would also to freeze your OS or pay for updates (not every brand has Melda's policy) but what if you would like to buy new super speed machine to run zylion plugins... Etc... Fear about subs will be not possible in some years si similar to fear about your plugin you won stop work after some updates, manufacture will consider it obsolete without support or maybe new version of plugin working on updated for some reason (new device drivers not working) is not setting compatible and remixing is necessary, brand can disappear in a few years and kept version not working anymore as license server is not working etc... Zylion things can happen in future... I know, subs haters could feel need to crash me for what I have written, but please have mercy I belong to both sides I have Slate sub (and very happy of that) and own zylion of PA, Waves, etc plugins (unfortunately many of them are not used by me so it was huge waste of money - could buy easily hw gear instead of it). We can continue the discussion in some years later to see what fears actually are right... Not trying to convince anybody who is not-convince-able about it. I am not payed by any subs devil Anyway I like to own plugins because I am heavily infected by GAS and collectors syndrome but the more I am thinking and calculating about money spent, well... And more new great plugins are coming... Everyone has her/his own preferred model and money to spend so we are picking the choice we like and believe the more... Just it is efficient and wise to be aware of all sides of the thing... Especially for not very experienced guys it is good to consider all possibilities in their situation not just follow 'the only good way' because everybody on forum hates subs... Kind of similar to discusses about top-down mixing Some people believe it is most efficient way and the others quite opposite Music is goal, plugins are only tools... It is important to ensure business continuity after years and if anybody feels it is for her/him the only way to own everything what used for any project and can afford it so its her/his choice. Subs are making possibility for people like like hobbyists and small home studios to get for small money all plugs from manufactures at once without heavy investment... And without big risks... Don't need to worry about selling or paying for updates...

Hm, I personally cannot see any problem with subs especially low priced as it can be just canceled after month or anytime with just 1 month pay risk. So it could be very interesting... But... But this specific sub has two big disadvantages for me... 1. They are fixed collection and pre-selected by PA guys what not necessary refers to my personal taste (some of those collection tested and completely not impressed). So telling 40 or whatever number is just marketing... The real number is related to plugins you would use... As always... Not all of PA plugins are at the same quality unfortunately... 2. I have a lot of PA stuff already so from whole that collection only 2 plugins are interesting for me so $10/month to use 2 plugins I like... Well, definitely it is not intended for those of us who are heavily armed with PA plugs... It would be another story if - PA, are you watching to our forum? - it would be any 40 plugs picked by subscriber... Of course it would be even more welcome if possibility to change picked plugs at least once per month granted

But... but.. Larry... I checked on Presonus pages and it seems Jim Odom and Brian Smith are owners of Presonus (at least they founded it) so is this a giveaway intended only for those nice two guys?

I am not doing anything in surround so didn't check it but anyway Phoenix and Phoenix Surround are different products with different prices. Maybe for surround Stratus is what Nimbus is for stereo (meaning extended version of Phoenix). I guess naming could have something to do with history of reverb development at Exponential Audio but now just guessing . Anyway I am curious how many guys here are doing something in surround ? Probably there are some engineers doing kind of commercial cinematic stuff...

Yep, I remember you have UAD interface you love Why I have no plans about investing in UAD and any possible ones are efficiently killed when I am looking at prices I am crossing fingers for development whole platform UAD+LUNA as I like the concept very much... I do hate changing buffers, loosing at latency, switching to different apps etc... I wish it was similar but more economic solution.

Izotope has no doubts about it They say Nimbus is extended version of Phoenix. There is YT video about reverbs and they are saying it...

I agree with you about impressions This thing was the only tape thing which did some magically un-harsh annoying parts in heavy guitar sound for me. I was just switching between different types of tapes not touching even settings and bum... harshness disappeared... With other tape sims I tried lot of time used and still was something I needed to fight with EQ. But true, to use anything from Acustica some mental switching in workflow is needed and... increasing buffers significantly... So anybody who never use it should definitely try demo to verify if it is for her/him. Larry, I am curious if Acustica ever consider in future doing unison version of their plugs?

Sometimes surprisingly it happens kind of opposite Slate is adding some new plugs per year but their year sub price decreased $179.88 -> $149

Well, I do believe they will run it faster anyway...

Absolutely. I wish I made my decision faster... Quite complete and nice sounding strip... I have also some suspicious this strip will get some additional extensions in the future with discounts for owners (or maybe some free?)... Grrr... Sometimes it is good to be early bird, sometimes it is better to wait... But anyway I think many people are suspending their shopping not be sure about their incomes so there are now also hard times for plugin manufactures... Which probably means more and more deals will be introduced to grab some money every month...

Thanks, Larry, so it seems it is related to EU zone. Anyway new price is kind of strange as at PSP shop intro price till 14.04 is $129.

Lucky you I downloaded it to test if I like it but when going to bestservice to consider more if buying I discovered it had new price $ 163.46 So now even with voucher it pricey I am not saying it is not worth of it for nice and convenient strip with so many modules but currently cannot afford it