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Many of you are aware that the External Inserts system is long overdue for a major overhaul. Here is my feature/bug fix wish list: 1. Support mono sends (so that both legs of a nominal stereo pair can be assigned separately) 2. Allow an insert send port to be assigned with no return port allocation. This would allow a pre FX send to be achieved. (At the moment it can be assigned and the send meter shows audio activity but the actual audio port doesn’t get fed with audio). 3. Continue support for an external insert returns to be assigned without the need for a corresponding send. I use these as effect returns. 4. Fully support external inserts within FX Chains and FX Chain presets. You have to use a workaround at the moment which is a pain to use. 5. Fix the bug which causes external insert port allocations sometimes to be set back to ‘None’ when a previously saved project is loaded. This happens even when the required audio ports are shown as available. Same problem with FX Chain presets which sometimes load with their previous port allocations lost. And when a port is not available then the system should allow alternative ports to be selected just like it does for sends. 6. Bring external inserts fully into the Cakewalk API. 7. Fix the API bug which incorrectly reports mono sends as stereo send names (yes that’s not an external insert send problem yet, but will be when mono sends are supported). The new Sonar should be a lot more user friendly for use folks using hybrid in/out of the box mixing.

I’m hoping that the Sonar will split routing to buses and to external ports into two separate lists. I realise it’s an extra mouse click for many users but for those of us with a large audio port count it would be a great feature.

Good advice!

Thanks for the information. The 'Cakewalk_by_BandLab_Setup_29.09.0.075.exe' installer worked fine. I still had to activate the install via my Bandlab account but no doubt Cakewalk/Bandlab will be considering how to deal with that when CbB is semi retired.

I understand the issue around authorization but I would still appreciate an answer to my question if anyone can help with that.

I wanted to get a set of CbB files stored in case I ever have to reinstall it on my Studio PC at a time when it is no longer available to download. So I did an install on to a spare PC which didn't previously have CbB installed and I wanted to check if the downloaded files I now have will allow installation at a later date in such a scenario. I've attached two screen shots of the downloaded files. One screenshot shows an executable 'CakewalkSetup' which when run downloaded all the files in the 'Cakewalk' folder. The other screenshot shows all the files in the 'Cakewalk' folder. Can anyone help with how I might go about doing an install from these files and which app file I should run to do the install?

Thanks for clarifying Mark. It would be great if there was an option to have friendly names list in alphabetical order. That way I could have my frequently used sources and destinations at the top of their respective drop down lists. It would also be great if mouse wheel was supported for the track input, output and send lists.

I tried Option 2 first but Cakewalk puts all the drivers back in the same order so I think it must be attempting to match the reinstalled drivers to what is stored in aud.ini. So it seems that the aud.ini file is not cleaned up when drivers are removed? So I moved on to Option 1. I have a total of seven MOTU interfaces and it looks impossible to figure out which device is which in the listing. If you have experience of this could you tell me how best to identify which is which or whether there is a way to clean up the aud.ini file without having to do a new install of CbB?

I have in excess of 60 physical audio output ports in my set up. When I'm doing track to Cakewalk bus routing, I have to scroll down past all of these external ports to get to my buses. It wouldn't be so bad if you could use the mouse scroll wheel but you can't, so I have to click and hold down the little down arrow button on the output selection dropdown. It takes forever! Same issue with track sends. Is there any way to split the track output routing selection into external and internal destinations?

As I have a large number of audio interfaces (seven MOTU units), I want to rearrange the order in which they appear in the Devices list. Why? Because I want the interfaces I use most to appear at the top when I do track output and track input selection. Is there anyway to do this within Cakewalk?

Thanks for the advice. I had a look at the file and can see the parts you are referring to. Yes I'll make a back up before editing!

I'm doing a major reorganise of my Cakewalk set up and I want to set all the ASIO port friendly names back to their default port names. Is there any way to do this?

Has anyone experience of running a MOTU Ultralite M3 hybrid and a MOTU 828x in the same system? I've tried connecting them both via USB and both units are recognised by Cakewalk. However projects are very slow to load and even more reluctant to play audio. I have no problems running multiple Ultralites in the same system. It is only when I introduce the 828x that the problems start. Both types of interface run from the same MOTU driver so I am not trying to run multiple drivers in Windows (which I know is not possible). Suggestions for a fix would be welcomed.

I'm beginning to use quite large numbers of physical audio ports with Cakewalk and I'm having issues above 32 ins and outs. Of course it might be an interface driver issue but I wanted to find out what the Cakewalk limit is?

It has to do with an external controller I am using. Quite difficult to explain but if there is a way to change the default state of a track or bus 'Bypass Rack' button to not active when a new track or bus is added, it would be useful to know how.

Usually I right click and use 'Insert Stereo Bus' or of course you can use the Toolbar Insert Stereo Bus. Neither gives you any options.

Is there any way to change the default state of a track or bus 'Bypass Rack' button to not active when a new track or bus is added? I mean without having to resort to templates? Thanks!

I now use the CTRL key when adding FX to a track so the control panel doesn't open immediately. Is there any way to do something similar when adding an FX Chain Preset?

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll experiment and see what works best for me.

I have some track FX that I want to keep on all the times, even when the track 'Bypass Rack' is active (so I mean it would be trying to switch off all the FX). Is there any way to do this?

First thanks for all the responses to a topic I never properly understood before. Can I ask one more question on a similar topic, maybe Mark knows the answer as it's very obscure! Is there any way to detect when a plug-in control panel has been opened? I mean you click on the little bar on a track (the prompt OPEN 'xyz' appears) and a VST panel pops up so you can operate the controls. Thanks

I'm trying to understand the difference between two different types of track selection: If I click on the track name, then the track name is highlighted. If I click on the track number (below the name) then both the track number and track name are highlighted. Could someone explain the differences between the two types of selection please.

Thanks for info. If I understand you explanations, I would need to create two 'dummy' MIDI tracks for every instance of Blue Cat Remote Control 3 I wanted to get external MIDI I/O to/from. Sadly not very practical when I would be using perhaps 40 instances on a project. I will contact the designers of the plug-in and see if there of a way to get direct MIDI access to each instance, otherwise I may need to find another VST MIDI controller plugin. Suggestions for alternatives would be welcomed!

I understand how to set the MIDI I/O for a Blue Cat control, no problems with that. I think I am struggling to understand the MIDI routing in Cakewalk. I have a large number of Blue Cat VST controls to get to the outside world and I don't see a practical way to do it? Why can't I see the Blue Cat MIDI in my MIDI-OX monitor?

Will do and thanks.