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There used to be a free version, I think called Studio One Prime, and that technically doesn't exist anymore. But there is a time limited demo of the pro version available. When the time is up (I think 15 days) it reverts to the equivalent of the Prime version, which does not support third party VSTs. So you have to get your plugin testing done in the 15 day period.

Thanks for the suggestion. I was aware of those, but felt the two "consoles" I most wanted were the Classic British (Neve) and Custom in CTC-1. So I'm going to hold out for another sale on that. Softube Tape, which is the only 3rd party plugin supporting the Studio One Mix FX, was(is?) on sale by itself and in a bundle for a good price, and that was also tempting. I tried the demo on that. It's CPU use was higher than the included Console Shaper, and I think I prefer console emulation to tape emulation, so I didn't buy that either.

I am happy for you! Bummer for me. I've been watching closely for it to go on sale. When I saw this, I was at first pretty excited, now I'm rather disappointed. Oh well.

Well, I guess I know the answer to my question. There is no way to add it to the cart, so it is NOT available.

I'd like to buy this from JRR, but when I go to the linked page, it says "Availability: Out of stock". Do you think that is really true, or should I try ordering it anyway and see what happens?

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that a new activation server was started at the time 2023.09 was issued and the old server shut down. Version 2022.11 only knows about the old server, so it may be impossible for it to re-activate. That's one main reason why Bandlab told everyone to update to 2023.09, as it is the only version that is aware of the new activation server. I suppose it is possible that they haven't shut down the old server, but if so, it's just a matter of time before they do.

Yes, I applaud NI for this unusually worthwhile voucher. Most of them in the past could not be applied to upgrades, but this one can. It enabled me to upgrade from the Stradivarius Violin (which I had as part of Komplete 14U) to the full Cremona quartet for US $49.50.

The crossgrade would also apply to later paid products, meaning X3 and Platinum, but yes, CbB is excluded. I did the same thing as jesse g when this promotion first started on 11-20-23. I'm now enjoying Studio One Pro. I tried it briefly a couple times in the past after the Gibson fiasco and it didn't quite resonate with me then. But this third time is the charm, it is making sense to me now, and it really is much more advanced than CbB and the new Sonar in a lot of little ways and a few big ways. I don't know if the new Sonar will ever catch up.

There are a lot of rumblings about it. Starting with 3.0, the main focus is to support NKS2 and Kontakt 7.7, so if you don't need that, there's not much reason to update. Alongside the NKS2 changes, many people consider the other changes starting with 3.0 a step or two (or three) backwards, especially as far as workflow is concerned. I'm in that camp, so I'm staying with 2.9.6. Also, most of the updates coming out now for the Kontakt products make the products require Kontakt 7.7+, and there are a lot of grumblings about that too. So, I decided to upgrade my Komplete Ultimate 12 to the now "aging" version 14 a month or so ago, and then pretty much commit to no more updates from Native Instruments.

Though the Presonus information conspicuously does not mention the crossgrade option, the crossgrade is discounted on the Thomann site from $299 down to $182. That's what I've been waiting for, so I have purchased the crossgrade from Thomann.

Just to add to this, other types of plugins can also be affected by gain changes, such as amp and console emulators, those that intentionally add distortion. Usually for those types of plugins, the more input gain they receive, the more distortion they add to the dry audio. But if you use volume changes, the ratio of added distortion to dry audio won't change, just the volume of the combined audio.

If you look at the page for this on the UA site, there are several questions with answers. I'm not sure what to make of the one quoted below: Is this plug-in included in the LA-2A Collection? No, this plug-in is brand new, and is not included in the LA-2A Collection. So it is evidently not the same as any of the previously developed plugins, but how is it different?

I knew I should have stayed out of it. ? But gosh, everyone else was expressing their opinions, why can't I? I've used Cakewalk since Pro Audio 5 and easily spent more than $1000 dollars on the DAW alone. As I said, it was just a suggestion, trying to keeping things simple, and basing it on what is perhaps likely to have been common experience for various users. It is also similar to how some other companies do things. I'd say the examples you gave are somewhat less likely, chosen to make your point. But they are certainly possible and I understand your point. So you are probably right, the "fairest" way would be to have everyone provide all of their receipts and the cost scale would be based on those totals. I've learned my lesson, I won't be contributing to this controversial thread again.

I tried to stay out of this, but I couldn't. Here's my suggestion to Bandlab, trying to be "fair" to all users and Bandlab as well: If you purchased lifetime updates, the initial crossgrade to the New Sonar is free, but future upgrades are whatever Bandlab's upgrade policy will be. If you purchased Sonar Platinum, or any of the "X" series, the initial crossgrade to the New Sonar is $50, with upgrades as above. If you purchased any version of Sonar Producer from, say 5 - 8.5, the initial crossgrade to the New Sonar is $100, with upgrades as above. Purchasing the New Sonar outright would be $200, with an option to pay in 12 monthly installments that would let you receive updates for the year and keep that version if you make all 12 payments.

I'm no longer using my AlphaTrack since I purchased other control surfaces, so I don't remember the detail or have thems handy. But until then I was using the AlphaTrack quite successfully in CbB for quite a while, and AZ Controller is definitely the way to go. Maybe AZSlow will see this thread and provide some more info for you.

It appears that Studio One Prime stopped at version 5.something, no version 6 for that.

I'm sure you're aware that the original developer used what he had done in Cakewalk to develop the stand-alone notation application Overture. And about the time Gibson was starting to lose interest in Cakewalk, that developer had some initial conversations with Cakewalk/Gibson saying that he thought it was possible, and not extremely difficult, to somehow incorporate about 80% of the functionality of Overture into Cakewalk, but Gibson wasn't interested in working with him. (This is according to my memory of some statements made by that developer in the old Cakewalk forum.) I'm sure most of the people that want to see Cakewalk improve the staff view would be more than happy with that level of functionality, I know I would. Do you see any possibility of going in that direction, maybe just consulting with the developer, sometime in the future? The developer is still alive and theoretically supporting Overture, but I realize he has not been very active for more than two years, so that certainly makes things more difficult.

It was a difficult decision for me as well. And yes, I had to move all of my Native Instruments libraries to another drive to free up enough space on my largest and fastest SSD. I'm sure I don't need 20 mic positions either, but I wasn't thrilled with the single mic position in Core, and Spitfire's demo of the mic positions convinced me I'd have choices in Professional I could be happy with. The other major factors for me were the addition of solo strings, and that it appears Spitfire's approach on this library was to include pretty much everything they were ever going to include for the BBCSO in Professional, instead of who knows how many other separate libraries that you'd have to purchase to get everything. For my needs, I may never be tempted again. Whereas, with their other orchestral stuff, and pretty much everyone else's as well, you'd end up spending thousands on many separate libraries if you wanted anything close to the "complete" set. For example, even with the Cinesamples "glitch" sale at ~$80 per library, I would have had to spend a lot more to get something comparative to BBCSO Professional, since I didn't have any Cinesamples orchestral libraries to start with. So I think it was very practical for me. YMMV.

Regarding the upgrade from Core to Professional, to confirm what others were implying, that was my situation, and the 50% discount resulted in the upgrade costing only $275. I couldn't resist!

If you've ever considered getting BBCSO professional, it is eligible for the 50% off and this might be the biggest discount you'll see for a long time. The 50% offer is good for another 6 1/2 hours.

Some say it was actually Rita Coolidge that came up with that piano part, and Jim Gordon. her boyfriend at the time, appropriated it for Layla without giving her even partial credit.

In my experience, this happens more often when some of the midi devices configured in Cakewalk are not turned on when Cakewalk is started. For example, I have about five midi devices configured in Cakewalk. A few of them are USB powered, so they are always on when Cakewalk is started, but I also have two midi devices that are not USB powered. If I consistently turn those two on before starting Cakewalk, the midi ports in Cakewalk are quite stable. If I sometimes don't turn one or both of them on before starting Cakewalk, the midi ports are likely to become jumbled eventually, and it is the first thing I check if a midi device is behaving unexpectedly, because I know I don't always turn on the two externally powered devices. I'm not aware of any way to lock the midi ports that Cakewalk assigns to devices.

You are right, they are two separate things and the DAW compatibility kits are optional. But for the people who hope to be able to use their keyboard as a control surface for their DAW without having to do a lot of work, that is what the DAW compatibility kits do. You just install them, get the midi and control surface inputs/outputs configured and everything magically works. Without them, very little, if any, of the control surface functionality works out of the box, it is just a midi keyboard.

Just in case you missed this, the LX series have custom software that enables quite good integration with Cakewalk. It has to be downloaded separately from Nektar after registering your keyboard with them. Looking at your screen shots where the keyboard was identified just as MIDI1 and MIDI2 leads me to believe you have not downloaded and installed this software. Cakewalk should see two inputs [Impact LX88+ and MIDIN2 (Impact LX88+)] and one output [Impact LX88+] for your LX keyboard. If you use other DAWs as well, they have separate software for each DAW, you can download and install as many as you want.

Stephen, for what it is worth, the Nektar P4 is not designed to fully integrate with Cakewalk, but the Nektar LX+ series is. I have the Nektar LX49+, it works completely as advertised and I am happy with it. The trade-off is that the LX+ series is not as technically advanced in some ways as the P series, which is more focused on plugin and instrument control. So neither is perfect and each person has to decide what is more important to them.