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I feel like Sonivox owes me double the amount of money I paid for it. Which is $9. After installing it, it gave my computer a BSOD! Luckily I had a recent System Restore point otherwise my brand new computer that I just bought and installed a bunch of stuff already would have to be re-formatted. The iLok (PACE) installer they have that comes with it is very buggy and is what caused my computer to have the BSOD. Only way I could use it without it preventing my PC from being able to restart normally is not allowing it to install it. The plugin itself is really bad. Even the FREE TAL Vocoder is 10x better! This is the one plugin that I would not recommend anyone to ever get even if it was free or if they paid you to try it!

I may try FL in the future when cost isn't an issue and I am making too much money, lol. It does seem cool for the stuff you mentioned. Until then, I need to learn all the stuff I have now since I literally just got everything only a few months ago!

OK. Since you are all for GPUs for sound. Help this guy out with his Geforce GTX 960 and LG TV sound driver. It's not an RTX 2080 Ti with all the CUDA improvements and not the latest high quality Nvidia High Definition Audio hardware or whatever. It's 5 years old. But hey, something is better than nothing right? For all we know his sound card is probably worse....that's if he even has one. He will have reply and let us know. Help him run Cakewalk through HDMI on his TV (which is what the setup looks like) so there are no audio dropouts. Then we can call this a day. And he can continue using his graphics card for ALL his audio needs. ?

Keep in mind that I didn't say MSuperLooper was bad. I just pointed out that it's not necessary because there are free alternatives (more than what I already mentioned actually). If you already have MSuperLooper then I don't see why you need alternatives. ?

You can theoretically run your whole PC from a graphics card now days. But that's not the point! Why render audio from your GPU when you already have a very capable SOUND card that is made to do just that! It's like rendering all graphics on your CPU when you already have a high end GPU. ESPECIALLY if you have problems with rendering audio in the first place (hence this thread)!

I did mention MPC Beats for live creation of loops. Not Cakewalk. You can make loops in MCP Beats then use them in Cakewalk. Also Cakewalk is so much better today then it ever was before!

NOW I know why you say graphics card! Looking at the video, it all makes sense now! The audio portion of graphics cards (including Nvidia's) is primarily used for HDMI output and not as a main audio driver. That would be the job of your sound card and it's drivers. So since it shows LG TV that you have as your driver settings, are you running Cakewalk on a Laptop or a Desktop? Are you using your TV as a monitor? can you choose anything besides LG TV in the audio driver settings of Cakewalk? is the sound coming out of your TV? What are you using exactly? Seems like you have a very unusual set-up. To me that looks like the main problem. Not a graphics card problem and not a sound card problem either, because it doesn't even seem like you are using your sound card to begin with. And I am sure if you are using windows that your PC does have a sound card (if it is a normal PC that is).

I was just curious to see if it is worth it to get just like the Reason Rack plugin. But after further research, doesn't seem like much. I think I already have enough sounds and instruments so far. And it looks like between Cakewalk, Reason 11, and MPC2. I think I am set for DAW functionality. As for instruments(I have so many these are just a few); the ones in Reason Rack Standard edition, IK SampleTank SE, Falcon 2, Pigments 2, Synthmaster 2, Steven Slate Drums, VI Labs True Keys Pianos, Ample Sound acoustic and electric guitars. Plus a ton of samples I already have from Cymatics and Ultimate RMX 30K bundle, so I think I am set for sounds as well. I guess I was just entertaining the idea and getting overly excited about running a DAW within another DAW (although I already had that somewhat with Reason Rack plugin and MPC). It wasn't something I thought I needed. I was just wondering if there would be any use getting it compared to just buying another synth. Not that I will actually throw money at it that I don't have just for the cool thought of "oh cool! a DAW within another DAW! DAW-ception!" LOL! That would probably be cool for like 5 minutes then I will regret spending my money and time. ?

It failed probably because it's weird for a GPU to do all this kinda stuff. I know It has VRAM and all that, but it's as weird as joystick ports on old sound cards.

^ He put it very well. Better CPU, RAM, SSD, Audio drivers and Hardware. That will help more when it comes to audio processing. Asking a graphics card to help with audio will be like walking with your hands. Sure you could walk with your hands, but they are not made for it. That's what feet are for. ?

i did look into getting this a while ago, but the copy protection and rumor of needing a dongle in the future turned me off to it. I instead got UVI Falcon 2 when they had a sale. Some of the reasons I got it besides the awesome performance and features: No dongle or new complicated copy protection (I already had iLok and that is what they use), FREE updates and upgrades to future versions, and the last one that convinced me was how good the free UVI Workstation worked when I bought a virtual instrument that used it.

You want a "graphics" card to render audio? o_O

That's why I act FAST when I see something like that, lol. It is how I got Synthmaster ONE crossgrade for FREE at the main website! ?

With enough training, you can definitely have a six pack! ?

Isn't looping tracks in Matrix View in Cakewalk the same thing? I can loop all kinds of samples together and have them all in sync too and Groove clip functions are enabled automatically, meaning I can have some samples that are slightly above or below the project BPM and it automatically adjusts it so it syncs up with the rest of the samples. Also all of this happens in real time! I can make a complete song with just samples and Matrix View live! I have not looked in depth at what MSuperLooper is at all and don't have the plugin. Just going by first impressions and assumptions. ? I just saw a trailer for MSuperLooper (as I was making this post) and it looks cool. Looks like a virtual live looping machine. Cool if you want to make live performances on the fly. The new Akai MPC Beats just came to mind though, which essentially does the same thing regarding live recording loops and recording over the same track....and it's FREE! Also for both Cakewalk and MPC beats you can add FX. Although for Cakewalk it's more powerful and you can add FX and FX chains to each individual loop as it automatically becomes it's own track in the Track View! Here's an example of me using the Matrix View. It only took me a few minutes to put everything together. No automation, FX, or anything special (although you could use that if you wanted to). All I did was added samples from the media browser directly to the Matrix View and worked there only and this is what came up. Each cell is a sample being played back. Some are longer than others, and some have different timings. But everything gets intelligently synced as I play each column. Notice how the main melodies and beats seem to be uninterrupted and play smoothly throughout the whole song even though I am actually playing multiple tracks column by column. Of course it is impossible for me to time every second perfectly by hand, the Matrix View does that automatically for me. I probably got a bit carried away with this post, lol. In the end, MSuperLooper is cool. But not needed since there are alternative free options that do the same thing.

It also depends on your hardware and drivers. ASIO performs horribly on my new laptop compared to WASAPI. I use WASAPI Shared instead of Exclusive. The Exclusive version is just to help with Latency etc. But for me the Shared version just works fine and I have the best sound and feels like zero latency for me. Exclusive makes it "exclusive" to the program, hence why you cant use audio with any other programs. Shared as stated, allows you do so.

It looks like price just went back up!

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Nope, its a separate plugin like Neutron 3.

I just went ahead and got it anyway. ? I paid $14.99 when I added my $25 voucher.

Found this from their newsletter: Looks interesting. How does this compare to iZotope's offerings (Tonal Balance, etc)?

I just found this link randomly while looking up reviews of a Plugin Alliance plugin. Found it on reddit: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SQ7NLM9 This was the response after I finished the survey: *Voucher not shown for obvious reasons* ? The difference between the one month limited time $25 voucher and this one, this one has a $39 minimum instead of $32 and expires at the end of the year instead of end of the month. So if you have used your month voucher already you can use this. If you haven't, you can use the one you have then use this for the next purchase you make within the year. If they have crazy Black Friday sales this year, this may come in handy because it extends to the end of the year!

Looking at one of the pics, it looks like you have Melodyne 4. The one included with Cakewalk is outdated. You are better off uninstalling it and downloading the Melodyne 5 trial from the official Celemony website: https://www.celemony.com/en/trial

It's the reason why I don't use the TRacks stuff or Amplitude as well. At least with SampleTank I can hide what I don't own, but not the other two. I only have the free stuff when it comes to TRacks and Apmlitude and have not even installed any of them. I just registered them so it can be in my account. I will only install and use them if I feel I REALLY NEED to. Which is probably never, LOL!