Doug Rintoul

The false narrative is that WaveShell all works fine and has for years. By saying so, you discount other peoples' experiences. How hard is it to understand that those making a fuss have had problems in the past that could have been avoided if WaveShell had not been used?

At least you don't have 24 freebie slots that can't be used because you bought in at the beginning and didn't think it would get this far.

This is a false narrative. Just because it has worked for you with no problems over the years does not mean it all works fine for everyone. My recent experience with V13 and Studio One proves that. I did everything I was supposed to, to move to V13 and it failed. I ended up having to reinstall all my Waves plugins, not just the ones I updated to V13. I would not have had to do that if the plugins had been separate DLLs.

I suspect this is overkill. They are just covering all their bases. The last step (reinstall) was what worked for me. Didn't have to reboot or anything. The fact that the plugins worked in other DAWs indicated that it was not a redistributable problem.

I received a response from support. They were really helpful...not. They told me to do a rescan. It was the first thing I did after updating my plugins. I did my own sleuthing. I found that if I moved my V11 and V12 WaveShells out C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3, and did a rescan, the V13 plugins started working. When I moved them back in again and did a rescan, the V13 plugins stopped working. So I did a resinstall of all my Waves plugins and that seems to have fixed the problem.

Oh good. Misery loves company. I am glad it is not just me then. I was able to file a bug report using the Contact Tech Support form.

Well this is a bummer. None of my V13 plugins work with Studio One. I am about ready to join Fleer.

Wouldn't it be easier to just leave your coat on??

You would actually be surprised at how few Cakewalk users there are on the Deals sub-forum. I would hazard a guess that most of us are here for the Deals and not for the Cakewalk discussion. So it might worth you while to monitor the Deals sub-forum in the future. Lots of great discussion happens here (and some bitching of course).

InstaScale is such a weird beast. It requires you to learn a whole new way of playing a keyboard. I am not sure who the target audience is. InstaChord is a strumming engine. However there are better, more versatile and easier to use strumming engines that come with OTS, Indiginus and other virtual guitars.

Apparently there is something called shell2vst that separates the waveshell files into single dll files. You could then use Savihost.

For those interested in crossgrade/upgrade/maxgrade information, check out this page: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/eligibilitycheck/

This has been explained many times before. Crossgrade pricing kicks in as soon as you purchase any IKM product worth more than $99. It is that simple. If you are a new IKM customer, until you purchase something worth $99+, you pay the full price. After that point, you pay the crossgrade price no matter what you buy.

You’re clear. My question too. You cannot select something you already own unless you transfer it to someone else first. I am assuming you bought Lurssen in a previous sale, perhaps another group buy which unlocked a bunch of freebies. You are wondering what happens to the freebies you got in the previous sale if you were to sell the Lurssen. Is that correct?

Interesting. The only thing that I can think of is that the MSRP is $299.00 but IKM is now selling it for $249.99. To be honest, there are not that many freebies at the $299 level.

You can do it in Amplitube itself. Click on the icon below the three lines until you see an x in a circle (like above) and it will only show the gear you do not own.

This is not right. Where are you seeing that your entry level is higher than the MSRP?

The GB does not accumulate. Buying in twice gets you two entries at the $99 level but does not unlock anything at the $199 level. Your UNO drum now qualifies you for $299 level so you can now get AmpliTube 5. Also, when Peter says that you qualify for AmpliTube 5 Upgrade from any 99.99+ product, the upgrade price is not $99. It is $199 (I think). It is what I stated before, any $99+ purchase qualifies you for the crossgrade/upgrade price of any IKM product.

So does that mean that V12 has issues with Windows 11? What did they have to fix to get to Windows 11 compatibility?

This is a real good analysis Kenny. I am glad I do not have to choose. Your experiments has given me new ideas of things to try out. I would not have thought of doubling up. I have a fairly powerful machine, but like others, I am concerned about the performance hit. I really do hope IKM can sort these issues out and get rid of that stupid popup that displays every time I start AmpliTube5.

In reality, IKM doesn't really do upgrade pricing. I may be wrong, but I can't think of a single IKM product line where the price of a higher level is less just because you own something in that product line at a lower level. All you need to do is buy any IKM product worth $99 or more , and you get the crossgrade/upgrade price for any other IKM product, no matter the line. It is a good deal but it can be confusing.

You choice?

I am fine with the mods locking this thread too. I think everyone has had their say and I feel we should move in on.

No hardware is part of the free products. Buying qualifying hardware will get you into the GB . Ninja'd by abacab

It might be racist or gender insensitive (I can never remember) to exclude poly synths from participating. My turn to get my coat.