Jack Stoner

There are many ways to install Win 11 on "non compatible" to Microsoft's requirements. But they have made known there is no guarantee on these systems getting fixes/updates and security updates. There is also talk about wondering if Microsoft will disable these installations at some point. What I would suggest is make the PC a dual boot with Win 10 and the Windows Insider Win 11 versions. They are offering Win 11 versions to Insiders with older hardware. My "mobile" recording laptop is a 7th gen i5 CPU and I'm leaving it on Win 10, not losing anything for recording. The laptop is a 2017 model, Win 10 will be supported for another 4 years, so another 4 years if it lasts that long and it will be due for a new one.

I agree with John, IF your PC is fully Win 11 compatible.

As I noted I have full paid version and a free version. The free does everything I need but we have to support software companies or either they stop development, or the free versions go away.

I've used Macrium Reflect, free version, to clone, make full disc images and to restore disc images. I haven't "moved system partition" operations, its always the full drive, a lot safer and less messy. I have both a paid copy of Macrium and a Free version and for clone or disc images both work identical. I have a USB flash drive with the Macrium for restoring. My OS is Win 11 on my DAW system desktop and Win 10 on a Dell laptop that is used for mobile recording.

I and most techies I know use Macrium Reflect. There is a new V8 recently released. I make full disc (all partition) backups alternated to two different USB connected drives. I don't use the Incremental backup, it can be confusing if you need to restore. I'm a retired Network and Hardware Help Desk Manager. We tried incremental backups on our servers but found just doing a daily full backup was the best and safest option. It was also a quicker restore if needed.

I got an iTunes update last week. Did you get it? Maybe a fix? I don't have an iPod to test but my iPhone 12 works OK with iTunes.

Probably not enough to warrant a new PC.

Thanks, but my question was directed to Alan Russell who mentioned a Dell with problems. The Latitude's are nice machines. I bought a Dell Inspiron 15 Gaming 5577 four years ago for a mobile DAW. The "gaming" laptops have more cooling, which is good for long recording sessions.

What model Dell? XPS8930 or 8940? Inspiron model? (I do some support on the Dell forums). If you have the Dell Support Assist running, Disable it in startup. Support Assist can be an issue. I know of one XPS8940 user, with Win 11, that is using it for DAW work and no problems. However, he removed the NVDIA video card (that was causing latency problems) and is using the Intel CPU video. Run the free (and popular) Resplendence Latency Mon and see what it shows.

I was hoping they would ease the CPU requirements and at least 7th gen, but so far not. I could install Win 11 but not a must on my 7th gen laptop so it will stay Win 10.

Microsoft's requirement is minimum 8th gen Intel. I have a laptop with a 7th gen i5 CPU and it fails the compatibility tests because of the 7th gen CPU.

I still have Platinum installed on my Win 11 system. Platinum is still working. I keep it installed even though I've transitioned to the new Cakewalk so the plug-ins that are in Platinum are available in Cakewalk.

I'm a retired LAN/WAN Network and Hardware Help Desk Manager, even worked as a programmer on the Apollo project. So IT background, too. I had been running a dual boot system, Win 10 Pro and the Windows Insider development channel Windows 11. All hardware and software worked without problems for over a month so I upgraded. I still do PC support so upgrading was needed to support clients that upgrade to 11. I still have a laptop that will remain on Win 10 as it has a 7th gen CPU and does not meet Microsoft's (current) minimum 8th gen CPU requirement.

This would be better asked on the tenforums

I find Win 11 is "Win 10 2.0". 99% the same. There are obvious internal functions that have changed since it requires minimum hardware but on the surface not much new. It can be manually installed on "incompatible" hardware. There is no guarantee from Microsoft that these installs will get security update or program fixes. Best option for "incompatible" hardware is to create a Dual boot system. Join the Windows Insider program and dual boot Win 10 and the Insider's advanced Win 11 versions which are supported.

Upgraded my desktop, that is also used as my home studio DAW to Win 11 this morning. Uneventful and went fairly fast. Everything works as it did in Win 10. I ran Resplendence Latency Mon and it too showed no problems. However, I was confident it would run OK as I have been using the Windows Insider Program Win 11 releases without problems on this PC as dual boot.

I tried the "paper clip" jumper and it wouldn't power up. Then used a known good power supply and it powered on and worked. The defective power supply was returned and replaced with a new one that worked properly. Replacing with a known good is the only sure way. The "power supply testers" only check for the presence of voltages but do not test under load. The power on with the jumper will tell if it will power on but again does not tell you if all the voltages are there. Reason I say only real way is to use a known good supply.

I recently (last month) built a new desktop for a client. All new parts. It wouldn't power on and as it turned out the new power supply was defective. First new one I've come across but it happened.

"C'mon, Bandlab! The Assistant app is long overdue for a fix." I didn't want to say it but I will. Its a POS with the continual problems I have with updating the app and Cakewalk. I only use it to get the Cakewalk updates and since I can do it within Cakewalk I really don't need the buggy Bandlab app.

That works (forgot about the option). But a Bandlab app failure to download problem still exists.

Update not downloading as of 8:30AM Eastern time. I started out with the usual Bandlab app program, noting an update was available, but restarting as noted did not update. As I have had to do in the past, I had to uninstall the Bandlab app, then go to Bandlab and download the latest version and install. I thought that would fix the Cakewalk downloading but it didn't.

Excerpt from the latest 2101-09 release: "ASIO driver compatibility checking Some ASIO drivers, such as Realtek ASIO, ASIO4All and Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver, are know to be incompatible with Cakewalk and can lead to instability or crashes. Cakewalk will now detect use of known incompatible ASIO drivers and warn the user to switch to a different native ASIO driver or WASAPI Shared mode for a better experience. "

ASIO4ALL works for some and not for others (and causes other PC system problems for those that it doesn't work for).

ASIO4ALL is iffy. Works for some and causes system problems for others. I have the latest Insider version 22454 (issued 8/9) Windows 11 installed. The Insider versions are not looking for TPM or hardware compatibility. I have a Gigabyte Z390 Designare motherboard. I don't use the Realtek for recording but I just tried it and Cakewalk started with no problems. Windows updates have been known to corrupt Realtek sound drivers. To eliminate Realtek as the problem, reinstall the Gigabyte Realtek sound driver for your specific model motherboard. The Gigabyte EasyTune program has been known to cause problems. I do not have that installed. Finally if everything else has been eliminated, it looks like a bad Win 11 install. The Insider versions are "Beta" versions and can be buggy.

Reports on the Windows 11 forum say Microsoft is going to start rolling out (RTM) Windows 11 on Oct 5. Then we will see what the actual minimum requirements are.