Brian Walton

I actually don't see a VST version, only the VST3. I checked disabled plugs as well as unchecked the box for "hide related VST2 plugins)

Every time I try to load Supertone Clear in Sonar - Sonar freezes. The program loads fine on the same computer running CbB as well as other DAWs like Reaper. Trying to make the switch over to Sonar with CbB about to be sunset, but this is certainly going to be an issue. Anyone else have Supertone Clear (on the latest version, with success in the current Sonar build)? https://www.supertone.ai/en/clear

Not sure the history of the one in the OP but seems like a fly by night company I've never heard of before and could go belly up in less time than a well established company that made DearVR, which should have some fairly stable code for Windows users for the near future. If you are a MAC user, you can expect your plugin to only work on the current OS anyway. I wish the company in the OP success, just pointing out I've never heard of them and don't see anything in the way of a long history of support.

Can do that with DearVR for free now (used to be an expensive plugin).

Thanks, that worked. Re-mapping plugin categories manually now.

I kind of thought so too but the Themes in that folder don't show up in my actual SPLAT edit: looks like it is now actually needed in this folder instead:

You are safe with X3 Producer. But the last version of Sonar Platinum I'm not sure if there is the periodic call back to the mothership or not. It was the first move to no longer have the serial + registration key, so it needed a Cake server to authenticate in the first place (or the online portal to upload the export file and then import the response file. It isn't clear to me what that is going to look like long term.

Haven't had an error with Splat or CbB in years, but this new Sonar version seemed like it was working ok until today I get this error (even after a reinstall) Anyone else getting this?

I believe the off-line auth is possible for X3, but Platinum I thought I recall as needing to phone home (or use an offline computer plus a portal generated number - thus if they shut that down, future installs would go away). My personal concern here is that X3 did not have the theme editor, so the look I'm missing isn't available for it. So it seems X3 might be the only fall back option for those that need a real off-line - no dependency solution. Last version of X3 is in the ballpark of 10 years old now. Edit: installed Splat to see what would happen - there was no option to import themes so this provides no value to me at this time.

I think you are missing the point about these particular plugins and not a generalzation. Again back to my example, restoration and noise removal, AI has changed the game as to what is possible. That wasn't the tech used in something like this 15 years ago. Thus do these work better than the modern equivalents or specifically what I already have? Have you used Waves VX or Supertone Clear, on a vocal track to have the point of reference as a clear example of how tech in this area is worlds different than it used to be. Noise removal historically have been very far from perfect even with class leading tools. Not even close, which is the specific topic of discussion.

This was a good idea to give away as an included with purchase offering. It is odd to me that out of 50 captures they didn't grab one of their Super Reverb. Also odd that the list seems to omit any pre-rolla 30 greenbacks, which are literally "the" speaker anyone running a UK based rig is going to have as the reference by which all other speakers are judged.

CR? As for ilok, my rather expensive Drum Core 4 seats are worthless now - even with the ilok authorization in my account. Acon seems to authorize offline from what I can tell. Izotope you can do computer auth or ilok (actually both with the same seat). While Sonnox is considered a high quality company related to the plugins, these also came out 15+ years ago, correct? The tech someone like Supertone Clear is using wasn't in any kind of mass consumption product back then, thus the curiosity of how it performs by todays standards.

Curious about experience with these. I've got the Acon suite, Izotope RX and also SuperTone Clear (that I think works quite well for Dialog related tasks). I know these are rather old so I'm curious how they stack up.

I'd agree if one was stuck in that ecosystem, but if you work cross platform yourself or with bamdmates that lands right back to the Sonar situation. I guess it also depends on what you need and how you work with the DAW. Reaper is a lot less expensive even though Logic came down dramatically in price since the early days.

Hard to imagine using anything other than Reaper for that use case. Sadly so many people use Macs.

Windows 7 has been end of life for 5.5 years and there is a free update to win 10 (also set to be eol in a few months) and now free Win 11. I get the fact win 7 is the last user controllable windows os, but honestly I've literally done hundreds of upgrades moving 7 to 10 or ultimately 11 and the sky hasn't fallen on me yet. I was worried about some sound cards with no 10 drivers but they worked fine. While I have new computers that are high spec. I also have 10 year old machines that don't support win 11 that I was able to get it installed on and so far so good there too. Of course all of this is YMMV. But if you have 10+ year old computers even going used might not be the worst thing to get some modern performance.

well if you were ok with the previous CbB situation the new Free Sonar offer is basically the same going forward. I would throw in the UI difference between the two but since you are looking at jumping ship for another DAW that clearly isn't a concern for you.

Gotta love some made up statistics. 99% of producers never finish tracks? Guess what, that means they are not a producer because they are not producing anything. I agree virtually all of us should spend more time actually creating than shopping/collecting. But I also think this idea of GAS is overrated for anyone that is an actual artist that is driven to create. Some are creators and others well, are not. My music circles are not EDM so perhaps the perspective is different, but the actual musicians I know are driven to play/create and those that do not, are not really stuck in the creative side - they are more on the technical - just like to tweak things side.

See chart here. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/topic/85290-current-sonar-release-202506/

The RHoF is a sham and I can understand why some would want to reject being a part of it. However, the reasons I've seen stated from her don't make logical sense. Reject it because it doesn't give recognition to the unsung heroes? Isn't that exactly what they are doing by adding her? She is a legend that for decades very few even knew about and frankly outside of music circles and youtube videos drawing attention to her as this "bet you didn't know" kind of content - she wouldn't be known to any kind of mass audience unlike the artists who's albums she put down tracks for. And as for the wrecking crew name. Well I think technically speaking there is some validity that group of amazing musician's did wreck the ability for others to get hired and fundamentally changed the artist / recording landscape in LA in particular.

Yeah I did that out of necessity but really didn't like it. Laptops have fewer and fewer ports and between using an interface and a decent mouse, external drive, etc the space is a lot a premium and if you compound that with ilok and others it really is unacceptable for software one has legitimately paid for. Even my desktop has gotten out of control with the ports with everything I use between audio, video, and photography.

Who knows but if I was on WUP I would to get resizable UI across all plugins as well as have the tech support if something breaks. If you are outside WUP even if they did let you upgrade you would be outside of support and have to pay for WUP for them to help you get operational again. The UI resizable update is about the most meaningful thing I recall them doing in the last 5 years. Glad I ditched them when Super Clear was able to replace Clarity VX which was the only thing keeping me tied. As someone who works across multiple computers the single seat when now on WUP is absurd. This isn't 1985 when only the Uber Rich could afford more than. One computer.

Looks like they have moved to a once a year new version cycle to push people to WUP unnecessarily even faster. The company is 33 years old and the versions would last a few years....until recently.

Well this is odd. Now that I have both installed the Boz Pro Channels no longer show up in CbB - and also not in Sonar (I had the paid Hoser XT, as well as the Bark of a Dog)

Here is my hot take. Years ago they bought Cakewalk and released it as free. At that time the outcry was we don't believe you and expect they will charge us. Over and over we were told the core platform and features would be free, but if they added back things like the Adaptive limiter EQ, synths, etc then those would potentially be paid products. Honestly this feels like they are trying to keep their word after pulling the rug out for a few months with a sub only option. Once again, we will see.