Brian Walton

They launched the upgrade price at $19 for a limited time, then it went up to $29...not sure how long it was at that price, but it is currently at the $19 price. And the $49 new Scaler 2 price was only right around the time of launch, pre-order time I believe.

The price is literally the best it has ever been...including last years sale in order to actually get v2, so yes, I'd consider it a BF sale. If the price is the lowest it has ever been, the expectation even on BF isn't necessarily lower than "last BF." The only way to get this price previously was pre-order pricing where you both had to wait and were not quite sure if the product would be stable. Or to buy v1 during the holidays last year and then wait MANY months to then buy Scaler 2 upgrade during a small window, and with the software showing some pretty decent sized bugs in Cakewalk at the time. Therefore this deal is looking pretty good for any new comer in my mind. Depends on your needs as the value it provides you. In my workflow, "the other stuff to buy" either collects dust or I have a viable replacement for it. Nothign in my workflow replaces Scaler 2 adequality. But it also isn't software everyone will fall in love with. I'm a musician/guitar player. I never formally learned music on a keyboard and this software help with Chords and ideas that go beyond what is reasonable on a fretboard. It helped renew my interest in recording my own tracks as I took a multi-year break from playing instruments.

Perspective here $49 for a new customer is just about as cheap as it is ever been for Scaler 2. Even those of us that got it with the BF/Holiday sale last year then had to pay an upgrade price when v2 came out. Even with the generous loyalty discount the all in price was within a $ or so of this price. Don't remember the conversation rate at the time, but it was basically $29 + 20 give or take on the exchange rate. Doesn't seem like much of a "percent off" but the software already has a very reasonable everyday price for what it offers. Have you not given it a Demo?

A $100 + min order? ? Where is Plugin Boutique when you need them?

Indeed, finally! Hopefully they changed the sound too. They are light years beyond where the were when they launched it.

I miss the $1-2 soundspot days....$5 is pretty ritzy.

+1 I think the interface could use a revision but find it very powerful/helpful and glad I picked it up on sale a while back. Pretty sure it was below these BF prices though.

They also have a clipper coming out tomorrow.

Amazon prices do fluxuate. Right now it is $56 in the US for the MX500s. I can imagine the foreign market is a bit different. That drive around $60 is good, you can get it for less or more as it is a limited supply product. They fairly frequently go out of stock with that model. Pretty hefty price swing multiple times in a day, but I'd expect that fluxuation over a week or two from what I've seen historically.

His video for the giveaway announcement you can make out a dry/wet knob for a split second on the screen he is looking at. While that doesn't always mean reverb/delay.....I'm actually thinking you are likely on point.

Yes, yesterday was the last day.

if you have IKM Max you should be avoiding this forum....just GAS for things you don't need. ?

Simon - if you only have one single IKM product...well sir, you are doing it wrong. Visit this forum more often. Things I've gotten for $5 or less over the last year just by visting this forum and making a purchase or jump through hoops to get the serial EQual Tape Echo Classic Clipper Amplitude SVX Amplitude Metal T-racks - ONE Black 76 Limiting Amplifier Model 670 Compressor Seriously all 2020....from this forum..... for under $20 total (digital magazine purchases in some instances), and at least half of them just plain free. And I'd also add IKM also has other free plugins/vsts that a deal isn't needed for. 2GIGs is a lot for one plugin certainly, but I think my post above suggests anyone getting in on just this deal is late to the party. What if I thought the same about the Model 670 COMP I got nearly a year ago, then the next and the next...and forfitted all of that becuase I didn't think it was worth it. Outside side of needing reverb, I could mix a whole track with those tools alone.

True, but if you have some combination of VST2 and VST3 installs and multiple VST install path messes (like I do) I think I'd get frustrated hunting them down on my machines. I think that method would also require re-scans to make them work as you activate them - across each DAW. I'm thankful I basically only use one DAW, but can certainly see the merits of that approach if you run a bunch of them.

That is correct. The only positive here is that you install all of it once, use the plugin manager to hide everything you don't own, then as they send out freebies (or you make purchases), you are not having to reinstall anything. You just put the serial number in the IK Manager, go to your Plugin Manager in Bandlab and remove the recent addition from the excluded list - you don't even have to run a VST scan again which is always an annoyance. Given all the free ones over the past couple years, this method has surprisingly saved some time and effort on installs. Otherwise, yes, it would be annoying.

Did you check the line item below Equal (bonus) of perhpas $5....?

Yes, zplane's decoda. I'm aware of the ARA2 and Melodyne, but as evidenced by the fact you have to actually own Melodyne to get features like the drag audio to create tempo map or drag audio to create midi (which doesn't work all that well), means Cakewalk is fully dependent on the end user buying Melodyne to do it. While I have v4studio, I spent hundreds of dollars to get it. And have 5elements which annoyingly can't co exist. However, I'd imagine the majority of users of a free DAW likely don't want the investment in that piece of software. I know I basically never use it and actually bought it for the "Cakewalk" added functionally I described which frankly have not worked at the level I expected them to for software that's retails for something like $700.

WUP is a scam. The only reason anyone should pay for it is if the plugins break and you can't fix them without WAVES support. They make good sounding plugins with fickle install and authorization methods and treat paying customers like potential criminals with a single authorization. I have a pile of them, but have worked towards replacing them in my projects as I don't want to rely on them or have to repurchase when a plug-in that should work fails to. Every single new version has broken something on one of my machines. I do not have a single other plug-in manufacturer with such a poor track record.

I think they might want to attack this feature add in stages. Going off the deepend right off the bat with The chord markers (easy update), Chord Creation with midi patterns (easy update), global changes across all midi tracks (fairly easy), Read midi notes played to extract and dispay a chord (not all that difficult), Read Audio tracks to extract chords (ala Coda)...basically a product in itself to do it well, global changes across audio and midi (some sort of Voodoo only Studio One has tackled from what I gather) all combined in one update would be a long term project we would have to wait a long time for. Even changing a note only on the midi side isnt' super simple as it has to figure in the voicings you migth be using on different tracks, otherwise you end up with chord vociings jumping around in ways you didn't intend. Not rocket science, but above the easy pick the chord and voicing on a single track type of update. I'm glad to hear they are giving some thought to this feature. I've said for years this is what Cakewalk needs to help beginners make music, and give more advanced users and easy way to get ideas down and compose. Scaler 2 is one of the benchmarks I'd look at in this area. Get functionality like that to integrate into the interface (so you see a nice big chord change view through out the track) and have it work across tracks without bogging down the system with instances and you have next level tool sets. Yes, the wave form audio manipulation would be wonderful, but realistically that is going to be a long way down the road map to do it really well. And I think the proper thing to do would be stages of development that can be released over time.

Not a fan. But yes, I use it Used the authorize to the computer method for a long time. Got a new ilok 2 for less money than you will ever see one sell for at an Estate sale and then started authorizing to it. You have to install the iLok liscene manager to a computer even if you don't use the physical ilok so you can transfer the seats to the computer, cloud account or to a physical dongle. I must have 30 products by now, some of which only allow one authorization (Exponential Audio). If your computer dies and your seats were tied to the computer you will be down and out until the manufacture desides to reset your seats unless you pay for ridiculious coverage. Same deal if the ilok itself dies. the authorization and transfers between systems is fairly solid, but not perfect. I wouldn't expect frequent issues, but when they do arise you will likey get mad and wonder why you paid money for it. It is also annoying to have to have an ilok account AND an accoutn for the actual maker of the plugin. This is the case with virtually all of them. Authorization to the computer is "risky" from a harddrive failure perspective, and transfering to another computer is an annoyance. I don't like it, but it is a requirement to use a certian set of plugins. The izotope model isn't half bad where you can authorize to an ilok device and also authorize mutiple times to an individual computer. This allows me to use the ilok on the go with computers I don't use frequently and tie a seat to my two primary computers that I use all the time. Giving up a USB port for the ilok is annoying. You need to research the products you have or want to buy. There are some products that only will authorize via a physical ilok (and version 2 or above) and not the comptuer based ilok authorizaiton method. Do your research before diving all the way in.

Same thought on my end, other than my question is would I ever even use Drumazon? Seems unlikely . Only use Quadravox a couple times, but out of the three - seems like maybe for another Ilok seat for it. Pretty sure Reason Rack lets you install on more than 2 machines.

"Larry's forum on Cakewalk" @1:03 yep ?

A bit like Sonible's proximity eq.

Audiority Echoes t7 for a better price than they have listed for the november/black friday current sale. ? Nothing other than that is likley to tempt me at anything other than close to give away prices. I've gotten pleny of deals this year and the "needs" are well covered I think.

They gave away H-Comp. I don't know if it classifies as big, but it is both legitimatly useful and has a modern UI. Not some esoteric or antiquated plugin. The sibilance pluign they gave away was also good, but that one is very limited use type of effect.