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I wound up using TAL Vocoder II with its internal synth as the carrier. The Sonivox, wow, the more that I think of it, there's no excuse for shipping a plug-in of that complexity with no user manual, no matter how many video tutorials are out there. I just wanted a quick off-the-shelf vocoder effect, not to have to reverse engineer an alien spacecraft. And to do a vocoder-esque effect that doesn't have a basic "Autobahn" or Tupac "California" preset? Also, it didn't allow feeding it an external signal as a carrier. Just not for me. I'll figure out the routing in CbB to do the external carrier with TAL Vocoder next time. The SONIVOX probably has its uses for other things, but IMO, it falls short at "basic vocoder sounds." The Mixcraft vocoder is great, and it loads in Cakewalk, but apparently it doesn't expose its sidechain in a way that CbB can Send to it. Not that I could figure out, anyway. And yes, nice collection of plug-ins with Mixcraft, especially the Pro Studio suite, which has Melodyne Essential, and Pianissimo, a nice low-resource hybrid grand. Their GM player also works in CbB and has some good-sounding instruments.

Welcome, George. It is a coincidence to me as last night I started watching a Russian television series, Лучше, чем люди. It is good to get your feedback, however, the correct forum for it is this other one: https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/8-feedback-loop/ You posted in the forum for discussing User Interface Themes, how end users can use the Cakewalk Theme Editor to customize colors and buttons and knobs and other graphic elements of the program. I know that the online Cakewalk Documentation is automatically translated into many languages, including Russian: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=0x184C5 Is it possible to use a service such as this one to translate the Cakewalk Reference Guide?: https://www.onlinedoctranslator.com/ru/translationform (it may not be possible, I and other forum members have tried translating the Ref. Guide to other formats and had the process fail due to its large size) If you are not already aware, you may download the full Cakewalk Reference Guide from here: https://bandlab.github.io/cakewalk/docs/Cakewalk Reference Guide.pdf Take caution, it is over 2000 pages! You are also very welcome to ask your technical questions here. We have all had our "elementary questions" and very few people here are hunting for disputes (the English expression is "looking for an argument" :-)). I think we're more likely to dispute with each other over who's going to give you the best answer. Cakewalk is a large beast that has lived for a long time. There are often many ways to do the same operation. I myself had some trouble in this same area when I was new: understanding exactly how Cakewalk creates final mixes. If I am correct and this is what you are having trouble with, I can at least tell you how I do it and we can see if it helps you. (I don't work for BandLab, I'm just hoping to help out)

Hey, whoo, bumpity-doo, I finally found something cheap that I didn't already have a license for: W.A. Productions come through again, this time with Imprint, a 3-band Transient Shaper for $5: https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/2-Effects/36-Transient-Shaper/5450-Imprint I haven't had much time to mess with it, but it has an attractive GUI, kind of similar to SoundSpot Axis multiband compressor. The bands are adjustable, making it the most flexible transient shaper in my collection except for LVC's Transector. Reason Lite? I couldn't even figure out how to get sound to come out of the standalone version, I had to load it as a track effect on an audio track in CbB before I could be suitably impressed by the "2005 called and wants its freeware back" sounds of the subtractive synth, ROMPler, and multieffect unit. If the idea of this promo is to draw users in with how amazing Reason is....well, shoot, I really wanted to like it. Maybe it just totally has the best workflow for making beats, but since I couldn't figure out the workflow for making sound come out of it it's starting on the back foot with me. I won't give up just yet. I had been intending to finally get a license for Trackspacer, but, uh, spaced on the expiration date for the $39 sale, so when I went to check out at Pluginboutique, it was back up to $59. By which time I had already fallen in love with it. I shot on over to Wavesfactory's own website in the hope that their web developers might not yet have committed the changes, and yep, $39. Whew! But first my debit card was rejected when I know there's plenty in the account, then it said my PayPal payment couldn't be completed, but it also spit out a valid license for Trackspacer....haven't checked yet to see what went through and what did not. ?

Scott, you are aware that Cakewalk, Inc., the company, went out of business over 2 1/2 years ago, in November of 2017? This is a forum for discussion of Cakewalk by BandLab, a newer program that's based on the SONAR code as it existed then and has since been revised, amended, and expanded upon. Cakewalk is now licensed under a freeware subscription. There are users here who used to use SONAR 8.5 who may remember how to help you out. In the meantime, Cakewalk by BandLab is very many things, but most importantly to you it: Costs nothing to use. That's right, completely free. It's like getting SONAR Professional 2020 for free. Will install right next to SONAR on your system without overwriting anything or disturbing anything SONAR-related. Opens old SONAR projects going WAY back, back earlier than the one you're trying to open, if I'm correct. Is supported. You can send support requests about Cakewalk issues to BandLab support techs and they will answer, and there is a lively community here of current users Kicks all kinds of butt. Seriously, way, way better than what you have that came with an audio interface in the early days of the Obama Administration Given all of the above, it might behoove you to download and install CbB, load your project into it and try the export from there. Also, I tried the time-honored method of Googling "OMFI_ERR: Mob does not exist in this file" and found a possible answer for you right here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1190244 I thought that Mike V. (Mudgel) was on this forum, but I guess he's off Cubasing or something. Anyway, it looks like I was on the right track with opening it in the modern version, but it may be that your project is just too big. Is there anything you can do to get the size down below 2G? Cut it into movements or songs? Part A/B?

Well, look at my sig. ? My take on upgrading your current system with a new mobo and RAM is that I'd hope you'd find a good home for your still perfectly viable i7 3770 motherboard and 16G RAM. Mine ain't going anywhere anytime soon unless someone gives me a better computer for cheap or free. I just figured out how to trick the BIOS into running the CPU at a constant 3.7GHz even though it's a Dell, so look OUT. It's as "overclocked" as a Dell Optiplex is likely to get.

I do not disagree there. As I said, no endorsement or recommendation implied. Especially as someone who tracks everything at 44.1/24, if these are locked at 48/16. I would not want to have to work within the constraint of having to fit all the range into 16 bit. Still relevant: absolutely. Up there with the best of them....depends on what you mean by "them." If "them" is "the in-house plug-ins that come with the DAW," I think they're fine. I don't use them myself because the DXi format doesn't work in any of the other programs I use, so learning them in depth isn't going to happen unless/until they're issued in 64-bit VST form. I like to be able to use my tools across different programs. (I'm a Meldamoonie, and after that, it's whatever works. Boz Digital (Gatey Watey), Sonic Anomaly (Unlimited), SoundSpot (Cyclone), Wavesfactory (Trackspacer), IK Multimedia (One), Acon Digital (Multiply) are all in my project templates and A-List folder)

So good that if feels like cheating.

So you My apologies, goodsir, it was what was in your quote from azslow that was in error, but the page does say that they intend for people to use the things with their Macs and PC's. Whether anyone would wish to....not for me to decide. You are perhaps under the misapprehension that I somehow endorse these things, but if you get around to reading my original post you'll find that it concludes with me saying "I personally would pass." In case there's any ambiguity about that, it means that I would not wish to purchase the BandLab Digital Link interfaces due to their beginner-level specifications. Where I said "whether you think they are 'deals' in general is up to you," what I meant by that was that it was not instantly apparent to me that they were, and that people should decide for themselves. I see you're doing a service to the left-mouse-button-challenged by copying and pasting the specs, and even giving them an example of a competing product and telling them they should compare them. Perhaps my "whether they are 'deals' is up to you" was a bit fancy. Well, good on ya, mate.

Ooh, thanks for the reminder that I should sit down with a Google Sheet and record all of my PB serials for backup purposes. Most of them have some kind of redundancy in the form of the manufacturers' websites, iLok, whatever, but I do kind of rely on PB as a central repository and sometimes memory jogger. Companies fail, websites get compromised, websites crash, databases get corrupted. I must remember these things.

Oh, you must not have noticed the link I included, which when clicked on, explains everything. ? You must have thought the part of my post where I talked about them being "capped at 48" were the rantings of a madman.? "Technically," the ones I linked to are USB digital audio interfaces, which is why I posted the link here. I had a hunch that some people would be under the same impression that I was, that BandLab were still only selling preamp dongles (The BandLab Link). These are full-fledged interfaces complete with XLR combo inputs and phantom power (The BandLab Link Digital). Here's what I suspect happened: In the 2 years since azslow posted his message, BandLab came out with new products. Other companies have pulled it off, why not BandLab? Once this thought occurred to me, it started to fall into place. They had a small product line, then they expanded it. I thought that putting the link at the top would make it easy for people to notice. Maybe if I made it bigger? You still have to click on it to find out the information, nothing I can do about that. https://store.bandlab.com/collections/link-digital

Not a Staff View user, just a sympathetic bystander, but what I am curious about, and alluded to in my bug report: why does the Right Click vs. Ctrl-Right Click work differently in Piano Roll View? It seems to me that the same note selection issues would apply there, wouldn't they? But when I select a bunch of notes in PRV, then Right Click, I have access to all of the MIDI Process commands that we're talking about. I don't have to hold Ctrl to get them. (matter of fact, I am endlessly plagued by performing operations in PRV where I hadn't realized an entire clip was still selected from when I was in Track View)

My suggestion wasn't intended with the idea to lock anyone into a particular use or workflow, more that I'm proud of Cakewalk for making these advancements, and this seems like an easy way to show off what people can do with them. And in the hope it would spark some ideas as to how I and other users might use them to our advantage. I mean, what are the demo projects for? My impression is that they are there to show off what people can do with, well, SONAR circa whenever Scott and the others submitted their projects, and sometimes to ask people having trouble with the software "does the error occur when you load the demo project?" So how about we have a demo project or two to show what people can do with Cakewalk by BandLab circa today? Work for hire, winners get a BandLab Link Digital.

I've bugged it up, actually, but Jon might not have entered it in the database. He had an objection to it:

I'm not making this request only for myself, and I'm not expecting projects that fit my workflow. It would be nice to just in general, get some projects that were in different, perhaps updated styles of music, and show off and demonstrate the big, new feature. Maybe a project from someone who has utilized the Export to BandLab feature to show that off as well. Cakewalk is a different program, a superset of SONAR. It has surpassed SONAR in every way (except for bundled add-ons), so why not have a demo project or two that shows that off?

TTS-1 has always been solid in on my systems, but I have another question: if it's as crash-y and touchy as you say, why keep using it in your projects? XPand!2 is on what appears to be permanent discount for $15 at Pluginboutique. I've never heard of anyone having trouble with it in Cakewalk, and it comes with over 2,000 sounds.

The "Cakewalk Edition" could be the one with the driver that enables the 44-196 that the chip in those things is surely capable of. GPU companies have been doing this for years, sell what's basically the same hardware with a different driver as a "workstation" graphics card for 3X the price. But far be it from me, BandLab seem determined not to market to me. Even their new "Albums" feature, which is huge, potentially a game-changer, I only heard about from someone on the Deals sub-forum. For all the initial paranoia about what the company was going to do with people's information and all that, I only wish there were a BandLab mailing list I could subscribe to to be informed about what they're doing. Instead, it could have been my friend telling me "hey, Erik, that BandLab company that you told me about, I heard they're taking on Bandcamp with a no-fees direct music download site?" and that would have been the first I would have heard about it. This lovely forum here, no place for BandLab company announcements that might be of interest to us? (sorry, aidan, for off-topic blather, back to your quest)

Not a time-sensitive offer, and whether you think they are "deals" in general is up to you, but since this forum can seem kind of insulated from the rest of the BandLab empire at times, I wanted to make people aware of these: https://store.bandlab.com/collections/link-digital The last time I checked, they weren't shipping yet. BandLab are officially in the interface business, I don't know how long they have been shipping, and I guess my having to post this suggests that "we can sell a lot of these interfaces to the user base" wasn't a major motivation for the Cakewalk acquisition. Or did I have my head in the sand and there was a big announcement accompanied by a contest and giveaway? All I remember is a contest and giveaway of another company's interface to a lucky Cakewalk forum user. Anyway, they look nice, although if the rates are really fixed/capped at 48K I personally would pass.

I have a hunch that the BandLab Link Digital interfaces are probably pretty compatible, and should you happen to encounter any issues whatsoever, you'd find the support people to be motivated to help resolve them. It's funny how insulated we of this forum are from the rest of what BandLab does. Did anyone else know or remember that BandLab makes/markets interfaces? I vaguely remembered that they had a couple of iRig types in development a while back, but look what they're shipping now and....doesn't it seem a little odd that a potential market for audio interfaces such as Cakewalk users hasn't been pitched to more aggressively? Not that I'm complaining, I don't mind a lack of hucksterism. It does seem like something of a missed opportunity here, and they look like nice enough little interfaces, although if the rate is fixed at or tops out at 48K as the ad copy implies I would pass.

As a former software QA engineer I have often said that if John Godfrey Saxe had lived to see the computer age he would have added software to the list of things, along with laws and sausages, that cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made. Having said that, I do hold respect for what the team that BandLab have assembled are up to with Cakewalk. They have demonstrated a commitment to quality over the years that they have had stewardship of the program. They don't like it when it doesn't work right and take steps quickly to fix it, and you can't ask for much more than that. Our personal prioritization of "works right" may not always agree with the development team's but at least when it comes to crash-y bugs, they are on top of it.

It's been over 2 years now since BandLab picked up SONAR and dusted it off and returned it to life as Cakewalk. Along the way it acquired a lot of long-requested what I call "convenience" features, things that aren't that flashy, but that greatly improve ease-of-use of the program on a daily basis. I'd put things like the Ripple Edit Button, Smart Tool configurability, note value display in Piano Roll and Staff View, Channel Strip colors, etc. in that category. Recently, though, we saw the introduction of a major new feature, the Arranger Track. Quite powerful feature with many possible uses. One issue I've run into, and it's a luxury problem to be sure, is that I've never used a DAW with one. My suggestion: Cakewalk has never updated the demo projects it ships with. Considering the ephemeral nature of popular music, 2 1/2 years is a long time. I'm pushing 60 and I'm not even into exactly the same kind of music I was when I first started using CbB. I've shifted more in the direction of EDM production styles, less so the traditional rock band format. So how about we get at least one new demo project, one that utilizes the Arranger Track? I don't know how this was done in the past, if Cakewalk, Inc. put out a call for submissions with the winners getting compensation and exposure, but, however, it can be done again. I would like to use the Arranger Track to the fullest extent of its capability, but frankly, I've never had a DAW that had one before and I'm not sure what all I can do with it. Demo projects are good for things like that.

Oh. If you're referring to the pile of goodies that came with Platinum, and I'm not that familiar with it because I only started using the program in its Cakewalk by BandLab incarnation, BandLab unfortunately don't have access to a lot of those plug-ins. Based on my understanding, when Cakewalk, Inc. was dissolved, most of the bundling agreements became null and would have needed to be renegotiated (for a price) by anyone who wanted to distribute the SONAR Platinum suite as it had been. Since the new owners wanted to distribute the new suite under a freeware subscription model, I guess they decided that it wasn't feasible to bundle all the pricey licenses they didn't own. Cakewalk bought the Sonitus IP lock, stock, and barrel in the early 2000's, so those plug-ins can be included, others were developed in-house or under contract, such as CA-2A and the ProChannel modules. Speaking of which, the PC modules do include some nice compressors with pleasing UI's, as well as both an algo and convolution reverb. The only remaining FX processing plug-ins that I know of that remain unincluded are a few PC modules, Channel Tools, and the LP EQ and Multiband Compressor. I would love to see these last two included (I think the others are in the pipeline), but since they have licensing mechanisms built into them that would need to be removed or retooled to somehow work with BandLab's servers instead of the old Cakewalk licensing server, it's a bigger hassle. As far as I can tell, the only "fact" we disagree on is whether the Sonitus FX sound good and are worth updating with more modern UI's. I think they sound good, you don't. It's really a matter of taste. I read Admiral "Why I Hate Windows" review in the past. He agrees with you on half of the FX, thinks one of them is brilliant, another one "more than sufficient," and the others, the most specialized ones you'd be unlikely to find in another DAW, he left unreviewed because he doesn't work with surround. Whatever. My take on basic bundled plug-ins is that these days, because of the availability of such great free and cheap alternatives, they don't even have to be world-beaters anyway. Just good enough and easy enough to use to get new users started. But they should look good. Also, I am in the "Sonitus fx sound pretty dang good" camp, so I'd like them to get better UI's so I don't have to squint to see them. That and the ability for the LFO's and delay times to tempo sync. ? When comparison shopping for DAW's, especially one that comes at such a bargain, "bundled plug-ins" isn't going to make or break my decision whether to use it or not at this stage. It's whether I like the features and workflow of the DAW itself. I already have every plug-in I need and they work in every DAW. And as for FX, if it came down to it, give me any DAW and an internet connection and in 30 minutes I'll have all the FX I need to do an excellent mix. Heck, restrict me to the Meldaproduction Free Bundle and Oril River reverb and it's on.

Here's an old forum post outlining the steps to take to enable not only those three, but the Boost 11 limiter. For the record, I think they're power-packed:

Ooh, yeah, you have a special case there, I didn't think of hidden tracks. Well, glad I could help with the info on Quick Groups at least. You may be able to figure out a workaround while you're waiting for the feature to percolate?

Can you describe in more detail what this means? I don't have any NI hardware, but I have installed their free Komplete Kontrol package and it seemed to work fine with Cakewalk and Mixcraft. How is it integrated? What change needs to be made in the DAW to make it happen? I notice that FL Studio, Tracktion Waveform, Samplitude, REAPER, Digital Performer, and Studio One are missing from the list of DAW's you posted, so it seems like a rather restricted feature. Especially if you consider that though there are five DAW's, only three manufacturers are represented on the list, Ableton, Apple, and Steinberg.

@Mark Morgon-Shaw, you have some interesting insights into the history of the DAW market. "Guitar-playing dads?" Excellent. I suppose I fit that demographic, sans kids. Where does Cubase fit into it? Digital Performer? I remember when SONAR came with a tiny "lite" version of Fruity Loops! I think it was on a floppy. I liked it. Just got a license for Break Tweaker, though, so look out. Fortunately, the world of the EDM genre tends to be less ageist, at least in my perception. And for live gigs, you can always pull a deadmau5/Daft Punk and wear a helmet to conceal your geezerhood. Thing is, even though I'm getting into EDM production, and I want to do more of that, not only do I want to do things like using live drum tracks with the rest being electronic production, a la Air, I still do indie rock songs that don't go near the Piano Roll view, so I need a DAW that has reasonably powerful audio recording and editing/comping workflow. I read that Ableton Live! either doesn't have comping or didn't until recently? The thing is, with Ableton, and FL, recording full audio tracks is a tacked-on afterthought, kind of like the perception of EDM work in Cakewalk.