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Wow. I almost bought one of those controllers a few years ago and instead bought a NEKTAR. I've always wished I bought the NI keyboard until reading this thread. Sorry guys. I think this situation sucks and will definitely be a very strong consideration when I buy my next controller keyboard.

Well, no sample developers are really big companies., even Spitfire is technically a small business. But there are developers you'd probably recognize. But it's a bunch of small KONTAKT developers -- and I'm a huge fan of small KONTAKT developers. Looking at my libraries, I have around 50 libraries in Pulse from a bunch of different developers including: Xpermentia Project, Ben Osterhouse, Impact Soundworks, Have Audio, Waverunner Audio, Minimal Audio, Simple Samples Audio, Sonora Cinematic, Majetone, Audio Ollie, Straight Ahead Samples, Rigid Audio, Musical Sampling, MNTRA and a few others. While I realize there are a handful of follks who are very vocal about hating installers -- and I don't like it when a small developer I have one library from forces me to use their proprietary installer or when an installer from any developer forces a bunch of trial plugins on my machine -- I do find Pulse convenient because it makes keeping track of libraries from so many developers in one place and makes them easy to install and uninstall if I work on another computer. We're talking about managing 50 libraries from maybe a dozen developers in a single installer. I'm good with that. And the installer runs great on my computer.

It is the same folks behind BFD3. I believe Drew posted that he's been with the company since 2008, so he's been involved in both plugins. I think I installed BFD Eco on a past machine more than a decade ago and can't recall much about it. Personally, I liked the toms best of all the samples in the BFD Player core kit and thought the cymbal samples were decent. As I mentioned, I wasn't crazy about most of the presets, but found two I liked somewhat that I tweaked to my liking. Specifically, I wasn't fond of the mixing choices of most of the presets, especially the snare sound, and wasn't able to edit to the degree I would like to in order to modify those sounds. Of course, all of that is incredibly subjective, consequently, I think it's worth downloading and installing this plugin on your machine to see what you think. I say, give it a try and share your opinion here to make another interesting and valuable thread. I used to be a drummer, so I'm probably way more picky than most people when it comes to drums. I'm cerrtain that I'm much more of a fit for BFD4 than the Player. But there are certainly going to be others where the Player is a better fit. They may love presets that I don't love and visa versa. Also, while I played a lot of different genres over the years, I was primarily a rock drummer, so that's a major factor in my preferences that should be weighed when you read my opinion. If you're doing hip hop or modern pop, your preferences in drum sounds are likely to be a lot different than mine. And it all boils down to personal tastes. But I think this plugin is definitely worth the time and effort to download and it's running perfectly on my machine, which is great, because my past experiences with InMusic software and the posts in the various forums -- including this one -- from BFD3 users having technical issues with the software made me hesitant to install this until Drew persuaded me to give it a shot.

Someone was trolling me for not initially downloading the plugin right away (I had fully explained why I assessed the audio demos and had been hesitant to download the software due to the reports of problems with BFD3 and other InMusic software, but this guy wasn't having any of it; to him, I'm a straight up idiot he doesn't like) and for writing posts that annoyed him because he found my posts to be too long (okay, guilty as charged!) and not worthwhile. I did offer the suggestion that he could just scoll past my posts. I'm guessing that was what led to the thread being deleted because it was deleted after his second post trolling me, and I reported the first one and I'm guessing others probably did too. I don't know for sure that is why the thread was deleted, but I'm pretty confident that it was the reason because the thread was deleted pretty soon after the second troll post. It sidetracked an otherwise, IMO, really valuable thread. And Drew has been great. I've seen people post really nice things about him at various forums, and now I can see why.

I use it for a bunch of libraries. probably around two dozen or so, and find that it's decent. I like having a way to easily manage a lot of different libraries I own and re-download stuff if I need to (which can be a time-consuming hassle with small devs --as you sometimes need to contact them and I've had at least one developer tell me that if I ever need to re-download one of his libraries again -- I did that once after a crash -- that he will be charging me; I stopped buying from him, FTR). It makes all of that easy.

LINK TO GET THE FREE BFD PLAYER WITH A 5GB CORE LIBRARY: https://www.bfddrums.com/drum-software/bfd-player.html TL; DR VERSION There was a pretty extensive thread on BFD Player, new acoustic drum plugin that comes with a free 5GB acoustic drum sample library. Unfortunately, it was deleted, through no fault of the developer and nothing directly related to the product. So I thought, considering that there aren't many free drum plugins that feature extensively sampled drums -- 5GB worth, in this case -- with a mixer. this is worthy of creating another thread that, hopefully, can stay focused on the product. REVIEW A LONG TIME DRUMMER'S, NON-INFLUENCER, HONEST, UNCOMPENSATED REVIEW OF BFD PLAYER InMusic is one of the biggest companies in this industry, so influencers are eager to forge a good relationship and hawk their products, so it's a guarantee you'll see them lining up to praise this. So I thought I'd give a non-influencer, honest review here on the forum. It's All About the Sound I spent a couple of decades playing drums semi-professionally and have a deep love for drums as well as a love for drum gear and sounds. Some of the plugins and libraries I own include SD3, AD2, NI's Abbey Road Drummer 60s and Modern Drummer, NI's Studio Drums and at least dozen other detailed KONTAKT drum libraries. SD3 is my favorite drum plugin and makes what I consider the best drum sample libraries on the market. Consequently, any drum libraries and drum plugins I consider are seen through the lens of my experiences with those instruments and their sound quality and capabilities. When I listened to the isolated drum demos for BFD Player, I didn't find the sound of the kit presets appealed to me. The mixes and snare drum samples don't sound as polished and professional as those from Toontrack -- SDx or EZx -- AD2 or NI sample libraries. And not loving the sound of a sample library and presets of a drum plugin is a tough hurdle to get past. But tastes are highly subjective and sounds that don't appeal to me may appeal to you. So I urge everyone to listen for themselves and draw their own conclusions. No doubt the genre you specialize in will also greatly impact your preferences. I mostly do rock and singer/songwriter music. If you primarily specialize in a different genre, you will very likely have different tastes than me. OVERVIEW As a free acoustic drum plugin, if you like the presets, BFD Player is no-brainer without much in the way of peers (Steven Slate Drums Free is the only that comes to mind). It offers a lot of functionality you commonly are only going to find in a paid acoustic drum plugin: Ten processed, ready-to-go drum kit presets (it's one kit with different presets). The ability to go beyond presets and mix (limited) and apply effects (limited). The ability to easily route the drums and cymbals as you like and use external effects (which is probably most relevant for the dry kit as your starting point, because everything else is heavily processed). 340 MIDI drum beats with the included MIDI files embedded in the player. The ability to swap out drums and cymbals. (I haven't tried this because I only have the core kit, but I read it). Mapping so that you can use this to replace MIDI from other popular drum plugins like SD3, SSD, ezX, AD2, etc. Mapping for popular electronic drum kits (I was happy to see my kit on the list). A Look at BFD Player's Individual Drums and Cymbals I think toms and cymbals are often the hardest things for acoustic drum sample developers to get right and I think the BFD team did a very good job with the toms and a good job with the cymbals. They seem well-recorded, the toms have a really pleasant tone and fullness to them. I like them better than most of AD2 toms from their various kits. BFD also is highly regarded by many users (based on forum posts) for cymbal samples. I think they did a good job in that area. The bass drum also sounds fine and maybe a bit on what I'd call the crisp side more than a lower tone with a thud. The drum I'm not crazy about -- and it's not bad, it's just okay to me -- is the snare drum and the snare drum, of course, is a critical part of any drum kit. Frankly, I find the snare drum sound a bit one-dimensional, it's sharp/crisp, but it doesn't have much character. Frankly, it's tuned in a way I would not tune a snare, I just don't love its sound and as a drummer, I wanted to play drums that sounded so good they inspired me to play my best. And through my playing years, I was used to having other drummers compliment me on my drum sound. If an engineer mixed my drums like these mixes, I would be disappointed. Consequently, it's difficult to be happy with them in a sample library/drum plugin. But it starts with how the snare was tuned and the drum heads, as well as the mics and recording. But the snare drum itself is a Ludwig Black Beauty, a legendary snare drum choice used on countless classic recordings of rock, folk and other genres. If you don't have a great sounding snare and bass drum, you don't have a great sounding drum kit, and frankly, I don't think they have a great sounding snare with this kit and I love a wide variety of snare sounds. Whether it's aluminum, wood, brass, nickel...picollo or deep... there is a wide range of drums that sound great and this snare drum doesn't sound great, and there's no getting around that. Tthe issue is the choice of the drum, I think it has more to do with drum heads, tuning, recording, mic choices and mic placement, But I'm no sound engineer, just a former drummer. But if a sound engineer was showing me a mix of a track I played drums on and my snare sounded like the one in this plugin, I would be asking him what can be done to improve it, or perhaps we can layer a better-sounding snare with it, because it just doesn't cut it for my tastes. The Presets and Other Opitions There's one sampled kit and 10 presets. This is where it all falls apart for me. I simply don't like the presets very much. They don't reflect a beautiful sounding and beautifully recorded organic kit with lots of character that was expertly mixed; they reflect heavily processed drums, which can be okay, but I really don't like the choices they made. The thin, one dimensional snare drum gets overwhelmed and lost in the heavy effects they put on and to me, the presets can sound a bit dated and amateurish, especially compared to paid alternatives I own. The good news is that this is entirely subjective. You may love the presets that I don't love. But if you're good with the raw sounds of the basic kit, I think your best option with this drum kit is route the drums so you can mix them with your external effects. If you don't mind the extra work of not handing all of the effects all in the drum plugin, I think you can get far better sounds using your own effects. The problem with that for me is that it's far too much work when I can easily do that in one drum plugin I already one like SD3 or AD2 and then save that preset to easily use again in the future. It's simply too much work for me to operate using external effects after I've found a much easier, effective way to operate that gives me great results and the ability to save those results as presets. Beyond The Samples: A Look at the Plugin Itself The plugin is very simple and straightforward. I don't have any issues with the GUI, it is okay, but unremarkable. I wish the plugin had greater mixing functionality and more effects, but realize that they're saving that for their flagship, BFD4. I find that the BFD team released a solid, stable plugin that runs flawlessly on my machine -- which was my greatest concern with BFD3, not the sounds, which I like much more than those with BFD Player. If you like the sounds and don't desire to get deep into mixing and using effects directly in the plugin, BFD Player may be a great fit for you, and for the price, I can't really think of anything else on the market except for Steven Slate Drums -- which has a very different sound to it, that is best suited for harder, commercial rock music and post rock, and not the music I do (and I know and like Steven, and he had called on me for advice years ago). I think SSD is more of a niche player as a drum plugin, it really works well in certain genres, while i think BFD Player's core kit is more versatile. The Wrap Up I could have been won over by BFD Player, had the presets been more to my liking on the core kit and expansions. If so, I would have easily purchased the two expansions for $29 USD each. But I listened to the expansions and also found those didn't sound to my liking. I own nearly every SD2 drum kit and more than a dozen SDx and AEx kits and I find all of them preferable to every BFD Player preset I've heard to date. To summarize and be very candid, the BFD Player presets just don't sound as expertly/professionally mixed as the Toontrack, XLN, Native Instruments or even smaller developers like Analogue Drums kits. Even so, I do think BFD Player has a place in the current acoustic drum plugin market. I would position it below SD3, SSD, AD2 and ezDrummer, due to its less advanced mixing, editing, and effects capabilities and what I find to be less sophisticated-sounding drum mixes as compared to those well-established competitors. I think InMusic was wise in releasing this free to attempt to get it in the hands of as many users as they can, and give BFD the opportunity to prove themselves and also make money from selling expansion drum kits. I also think they priced the expansion kits smartly at $29 USD because there's no other acoustic drum plugin ecosystem that has add-on kits anywhere close to that price. So is it even fair to compare this to SD3, AD2 or EZx or SSD? Probably not. I don't think it sounds as polished as those competitor plugins, but again, all of that is in the ear of the beholder. Considering that many DAW users are looking for plugins that are very simple to use, and sounds that are easy to drop into a mix without any fuss -- as opposed to someone like myself who loves going deep into mixing, effects, layering and swapping drums and cymbals -- being limited on those capabilities compared to the aforementioned plugins may be irrelevant for those users -- a good deal of plugin users simply want ready-to-go drums they can play or use pre written MIDI for to drop into a mix. A successful plugin developer (who may or may not have sold his company to Apple) based in Europe whom I visited on an unrelated business trip once told me, "Every synth user tells us that they want to create their own presets, what we've found in our research is only a small percentage of users actually do that." He was referring to synths, but I would bet that also holds true for this category. While it doesn't match SD3 or AD2 for mixing and effects capabilities, it doesn't have their price tags and offers impressive capabilities for a free drum plugin. Beyond Steven Slate Drums, I don't think it has much competition in the free category. But the drum kits in SSD Free and BFD Player sound significantly different, so I would recommend installing both of them instead of choosing between one or the other. Personally, I think Steven Slate Drums Free sound much better when it comes to the mixed kits and the snare drum -- SSD Free includes two snare drums and one sounds really good, the other is okay, both are superior to the BFD Player snare. As both kits are free, I would recommend downloading both drum plugins, but personally, I find SSD Free is the better of the two.

Those monsters! I kid, I kid. I actually just checked. That amount is just a suggested donation. You can change it to zero and get it free. I think you'll really like it. But the samples aren't dry. The stomps have a ton of reverb on them, which may or may not be to your liking. But I love this little freebie (now donationware).

Good points. Considering that these were both Christian's pet projects and both Labs and Pianobook were part of a related strategy of furthering awareness and one generated no revenue (and had costs) and the other, Pianobook, generates a small amount of revenue but probably costs more to operate than it directly produces in revenue, it's only natural that the company would reassess these efforts following Christian's departure. Pianobook is easily the most complex of the two to justify financially because I'm sure the operation isn't directly yielding positive ROI (through sales of libraries from community members; my guess is based upon public comments made regarding sales revenue from their paid releases) plus it's less connected to the Spitfire brand. Spitfire likely looks at how Labs and Pianobook users convert to paid users and whether it justifies the cost of funding. I think it is a wise business strategy to keep both efforts alive, at least to some degree, especially when competitors are also giving away free product, allowing budding composers to get to experience their brand early on. It's really smart business strategy. I have done some paid consulting in the orchestral library sample space and these companies have long made a good deal of their revenue from students, so hooking them early -- as well as targeting home hobbyists starting out with cinematic and orchestral music composition -- early on, when they have no or little budget means a lot. It's like being the brand new bakery in town and giving away free cookies the first weekend you open. You'll likely lose a lot of money that weekend, but assuming you chose the right location, a bunch of people just got to experience your product that might otherwise never have tried it. And if your product delivers or exceeds expectations, some of those people will be back with money to spend.

I didn't make any political comments. I just reported what occured. I am a writer and aware of the policies. Your earlier post was clearly a political post. I kept it factual. I've linked a story on what happened below (it's from a music magazine) that does a pretty good job of reporting what occurred, @jngnz you might want to check it out. Personally, I know a good deal of developers and more details about this and then the related attack at VI-Control on 8DIO, after they tried to urge Mike Greene to allow discussion of this matter on VI-Control and not censor, pulled their ad money from the site and faced a really ugly attack Greene aggressively participated in (interestingly or oddly enough, using a transgender woman to lead the attack). It's a story people outside the developer community don't know and would be very surprised about, regardless of their stance on LGBTQ people. Mike deleted many voices of reason in that attack who didn't think what he was doing was right, including me and a developer I know (not well, but he seems a pretty decent guy). Mike acknowledged deleting dozens of posts, basically of anyone who didn't make an attack on 8Dio-- and I'm friends with the influencer that they used to attack 8Dio -- who deliberately chose to not participate in the attack. It's a very odd and ethically problematic event that ruined VI-Control completely to me and it's really not what it appeared to be, but a different agenda that if you understand will result in your seeing the whole ugly event very differently. https://mixmag.net/read/spitfire-audio-co-founder-christian-henson-departs-company-transphobia-row-jk-rowling-linehan-news/

To be accurate, Christian, who has long seen himself as a strong liberal, started to embrace myths about transgender children getting surgeries that have been spread by anti-trans people. He became outspoken and tweeted about standing with a very hateful, anti trans comedian and JK Rowling, who maintains a similar stance. Because of Christian's standing as a well known composer and owning a successful business, his tweet immediately got media coverage in the UK, then other countries. Interestingly, far-right media immediately embraced him as a hero for their cause, wrongly believing he shares their ideological worldview, not realizing that he is otherwise liberal, but simply holds prejudices and has embraced some hateful myths (conspiracies) about trans people espoused by the extreme fringes of anti-LGBTQ folks (I'm sure that even most anti-LGBTQ folks don't embrace these conspiracies of young children getting surgeries, which, is illegal and not happening, BTW, but you'll never convince the kind of unstable folks that embrace conspiracies by using facts). Because he's a business owner and has LGBTQ employees and customers, it especially put his company in a bad situation to have its co-founder embracing hate, intolerance and bigoted myths. There were some outspoken composers who sought a dialogue, urging Christian not to silently resign, but engage in conversation, which being a strong believer in the "love one another" school of thought and a believer in second chances and hope that people are capable of change and learning, I really hoped to see. But Christian decided to resign and fade out. Christian has been public about mental health struggles and I believe that was no small factor in all of this.

Yep. The other day I accidentally popped upon Labs instead of another plugin and I was thinking it has been a long time since their last release -- and thought to myself, I wonder what's going on. Pianobook hasn't had the more significant releases from major players in quite a few months either and Christian was the driving force behind that activity too. He inspired a lot of people to start making sample libraries and some of them are quite good. Clearly, his absence is reflected in greatly reduced activity for both Labs and Pianobook. Fortunately some of the other orchestral sample developers have done a good job with freebies. Hopefully, they'll get things moving on both ends soon. I wish that whole situation would have resolved differently, with dialogue and greater understanding the result, instead of the way it went down.

Thanks for sharing your experiences, guys. I've said it before, it's really easy to share the positive stuff and much harder to share the negative stuff for most people, which isn't always well received. But both are really important.

Actually claiming they are counterfeiting is 100% libel -- it's a blatantly defamatory statement. He can certainly say that they're copycats, that they're just hacks, that they made terrible quality products, but he can't state that they are counterfeiters, that is accusing them of a crime. But to your earlier point, it is ironic that people with no moral integrity attack others with no moral integrity. I hope that isn't missed by anyone. I'm not a fan of Behringer. Especially after that stuff they did with the journalist (like the antisemitic depiction on a synth). I have a friend that likes Ule or whatever his name is, but any even mraginally ethical CEO, even if not putting out that terrible stuff themselves, would stop it right away. The fact that this guy didn't tells you everything about the way he operates. To me that's a bigger problem than being a hack outfit.

Nah, we're fellow addicts. YouTuber influencers are deceiving you for their profit. Influencers are like undercover independent contractors shilling for drug dealers. We're going broke along with you. We're your fellow junkies.

Every major brand that sells to consumers has marketing positions that are focused on managing influencer relationships (putting them in the marketing plan, negotiating compensation and ensuring they're promoting the brand as desired in their communications, etc.) Influencers are funded by marketing department budgets and specifically funded though marketing and/or PR budgets. I shared a fee study. Not all Influencers are getting paid upfront. But they are compensated all different ways. Free products, sponsorship, sometimes high value free gifts, direct payment, advertising on their channel, etc. I want to avoid getting sued, but I've held senior level roles at a few major brands and consulted to some major brands. But I'll tell you a not uncommon story that a very popular, highly regarded tech reviewer blogger was given more than $60,000 USD in gifts to get a brand's products reviewed; that's how it works with major influencers, its all about money, gifts and shilling while pretending to be unbiased. I didn’t approve it. But the person who did was someone I worked with. Now, influencer marketing goes back to Hollywood celebrities. I worked at a very well known tech brand (my expertise is tech marketing) and we had product placement in a lot of major movies. But we didn't get it through deals with the movie production companies, we went directly to the stars and they got gifts worth tens of thousands of dollars to use our products in movies, because when the big star says I'm using this product in a scene instead of the prop you wanted, it happens. Otherwise we'd have to pay half a million or so for the same placement. For big consumer brands, your influencer marketing budget is in the millions. For this space companies aren't that big, so influencers aren't making as much, but its still the same basic operating principles. Okay, maybe principles is the wrong word, because there really aren't principles in influencer marketing to be perfectly candid. Its called influencer marketing for a reason. Influencers are experts at getting people to trust them and then they sell that to brands to make money. In the plugin and sample library world, an influencer who averages 10,000 or so views on YouTube is likely going to get free product and sponsorship. But s/he may get direct cash from the brand too (of course, they get a cut of YouTube''s ad revenue and commonly make a sales commission on affiliate linked sales). If you see a brand using that influencer on their site or channel, that's a definite sign they've inked a direct payment deal. But they serially hide and deceive their viewers about all of this. It's the norm. I recommend looking at Influencers as shills is the wisest strategy and it's accurate. Ethics are pretty much non existent. They all lie to various degrees. Virtually none of them do the required (by law or regulations) disclosures which are really just basic ethics and below what real ethics demand, IMO. Why? Because it's a confidence game. They have to make you believe they're unbiased to keep you tuning in and to be effective at selling products for brands. If they say, "I'm here to promote ABC's Plugomatic because they paid me $10,000 and I get thousands of dollars in free product and I'm not going to screw it up by saying anything too negative, " would you trust them? They literally are the equivalent of infomercial pitchmen. Some are entertaining. But it's key to understand that they aren't journalists and they aren't even honest with you about what they do. And yeah, I think they've taken marketing to new ethical lows and of course, it's not like marketing has a great history of being ethical, but influencer marketing is pretty much, inherently a con job. A shortcut to understand what an influencer is is an independent promoter for brands. Are there exceptions? Yes. But they're very rare for successful influencers, because it's only when an influencer is successful that they're able to make decent money and it's difficult for people to resist the money and maintaining a good relationship even for those who traffick in shilling for free product is enough incentive itself. Most influencers starting out are very focused on growth and aspirations of making big money, so they're almost always focused on building strong relationships with the brands that have the free product and future cash.

You know what the answer is always going to be with this group....

Hmmm...So why does it get the same name, just to draw people in? I guess I'll try it out later this week. Although I'd love to get insights from my fellow forum members who have a lot more knowledge about mixing than me. I know Analog Obsession has a free (everything from them is free) LA-2A clone I think I've heard is good and I own the IK clone. What LA-2A clones do you guys think are the best?

Good catch! When the rest of us were in awe of getting this free we didn't think of stuff like reading! Hahaha. But I'm serious. Hmmmm... If anyone knows the deal with this, please share. It did seem too good to be true. But I'm guessing that it's still impressive and must be based on the iconic compressor it's named for. Maybe it's a cut down version?

Going back a bit, I made some friends with a bunch of folks at KVR that I met up with in New Zealand, Scotland and in the US, when one came to Chicago, where I live. Pretty cool experiences. Two developers, one hobbyist musician, but all cool experiences.

This is pretty highly regarded effect. Happily surprised to see it as a giveaway. Thanks @cclarry.

Yep. Thanks! I just couldn't spell it.

This has been around a while, but it's realy good and I bet a lot of people aren't aware of it. I have it on my recommended KONTAKT freebies list, I think it's well worth downloading.

There are a number of fiddle libraries for KONTAKT that you might want to check out. Unfortunately, I can't provide any first hand recommendations on any of them because I don't own any of them. Maybe someone else here who owns obe or more of this can chime in with their opinion: - Boulder Sounds has a fiddle that sounds decent in demos. I used to buy their libraries in the 00s. Not sure what they're up to these days and if they can compete with the best. But this library sounds good in demos. - Red Room has a bluegrass fiddle. It sounds pretty good in demos. I only have their freebie claps and Stomps library, but it's very nice. - Indiginus The Fiddl. It's a smaller library and I think is $69 or $89 USD. They get a lot of praise and the developer is a stand up guy, but their libraries aren't as sophisticated in terms of articulations as the top tier developers like Orange Tree Samples or Embertone. - 8Dio has a fiddle, regularly priced at $29 USD. So it's relatively cheap. It's part of their Misfit series that someone else recommended you look into earlier in the thread. I'm not sure how good it is, but at that price it's probably worth a look.

Wait, you're thinking of Fluffy Audio that has customer service issues, Orange Tree Samples is as good as it gets, IMO. I say that sincerely, but I always want to point out that I've consulted to them and Greg is a good friend. Just ask people in the forum about Orange Tree Samples, even other top notch developers praise them. Greg's an innovative developer the other developers regard highly. And he's one of the nicest people I know. Sincerely. I'll stop myself now or you'll think I'm a fanboy.

I have that Red Room Audio Snaps, Claps and Stomps library too and realy like it and can recommend it. But I was using it in a recent production and discovered that when using the stomps for quarter notes for 8 bars that it varies when the stomps start (the attack) so much that it sounds too off to use it that way. It's a shame because it sounds so good. I think it's on my list of recommend KONTAKT freebies because it is, otherwise a really great and fun free library.