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Here's my own recent, somehow strange experience on the automation, with regards to Tempo Track (but not only). When I decided to give the most recent Early Access a spin, I've found out oddities that I couldn't explain. I asked for some clarification whether it's a bug or feature, or my own user error - because I realize I might be missing an fundamental detail here and there of the whole envelopes conception, or anything really. But all I've got in response from the devs was just a silence. On the old forum for the most time I was just a lurker mainly for the lack of confidence when it comes to the language. Yes I can write and read in English but my most concerns that I have are with the underlying tone that always come with the message - here's where I might fail, and more than once, if putting words together the wrong way. But I decided to give myself a second chance for a fresh start here on the new forum and when I saw the EA thread I thought I might be useful by giving a feedback from the user perspective and specifically with decades of experience in working with midi in Cakewalk. So when I saw odd things, where I did something I theoretically shouldn't do as a user, like for example double-clicking in the tempo track while in the shelf tool, and Cakewalk did things it theoretically shouldn't do as a DAW, ie. corrupting the envelope (or as in an yet earlier EA - some funky stuff going with MIDI clip content when editing song parts in the arranger track with the new event overlap option enabled and getting weird results) - I thought that Cakewalk simply should't allow it happen at all. Then I posted about it but got no reaction, nothing. And now I'm left with no clue whether it's something wrong with Cakewalk or with me ?. Now here's the thing. I saw a recent thread about that more young people should try Cakewalk. Imagine a newcomer wants to get started and is checking out first if it's something right for him or not, without any patience nor passion - no emotions whatsoever. Imagine him making a rachitic move, or be it a muscle memory from another DAW, or even failing mouse - and getting strange output. Will he start with wondering if it's something wrong he's doing or it's the software to blame for being buggy? And I'm not going to even start on the take lanes/clips . Ok, I'll better get my coat...

I can replicate this when I set record mode to Sound On Sound and have auto crossfade engaged. Is it possible that you had two clips deeply overlapped and then you moved one of them onto another take lane? ? it's like playing a game 'who'll get tricked the most'... I won't be lying on you, I win most the time... but not every time lol

Well, yes... unless they're forced to update to stay compliant with the most recent changes in Windows 10 policies. The whole point of my previous post was that today there's no right way for those who prefer to install software and do not poke with it later. One and half year after I upgraded to Win10 slowly I'm becoming exhausted having to constantly pay attention whether I should update the plugin or not, because developer says it's an important update. It takes too much effort always having to check forums and articles before doing an update just to make sure that I'm not falling into trap - most recent examples are AIR and AAS updates - not saying they're directly related to Win10 forced updates in this case, but if I didn't hunt for the right info in the first place, I would regret a quick jump on the update. Didn't want to make it sound too dramatic but life was much more easy before Win10 . Or maybe it's just me.

Actually that would be my point of view almost exactly as you said, every now and then a Windows update 'destroys' people's working DAW either by breaking compatibility for some plugins, changing rules for permissions or sneaking in some default drivers or settings back where you'd have thought you had things set correctly. You then have to spend some quality time updating broken software or if you'd prefer to keep things the old way you'd be quickly left behind with an outdated version or the DAW. That's exactly my experience since I have upgraded to Windows 10 after decades of using Win7 and earlier XP, where I had things simply set and forget.

Personally I don't think Cakewalk is the best choice right on start for most of the new young users there. The way I take it is that Cakewalk would be best suited for those who got on the online Bandlab app and found it lacking at some point... and are on Windows by a chance. And while I might be not yet considered an old fart by some more prominent members here but I'm getting there, still I was one of the first to say thanks right after the new tempo track had been announced, so no hate at the new features at all, especially the ones that lift Cakewalk up to today's standards. Granted I'm still based on some old workflows, for example the reason I may still use MIDI control change events instead of envelopes is because they still seem too buggy for me or I completely misunderstand their concept. I might handle a single tempo track with it's some of the few bugs and odds just well but no way I would want to deal with 20 or 40 tracks full of track AND clip envelopes in their current shape. What I think would be best for newcomers is the online Bandlab app with it's simplicity of use and the modern vocabulary like 'stems' or 'regions' - it sounds sooo contemporary but for me it could really mean many things . Or Ableton Live lite with it's plain user interface and very consistent workflow where it's difficult to get unwanted user errors. I can easily see newcomers having trouble for months trying to understand why is snap to grid "not working" in Cakewalk ? and the like, or even having trouble getting started with the drivers.

Or alternatively you can buy just the ASIO driver alone for about 1/2 of that price. It *should* work with your i02 Express but just in case you can download a demo version there. https://www.usb-audio.com/download/ I'm using it with my ART dual tube preamp and it's working like a breeze

probably right after Steinberg claimed all rights to it's name

Yep, it says: not compatible with the older HO section or solo instruments and with MIDI guitar series.

I'm really liking my Juno from Cherry Audio. I realize it probably could be beaten by the ones from Roland Cloud or the recent release from Softube if someone is looking for closest emulation, but that doesn't bother me at all cause I didn't spend the whole $150 on it and don't feel like it sounds 5 times worse than the others. Actually to me personally it does sound more like a hardware synth than software. Money well spent.

I should have read my own post before leaving thread LOL I mean if I'm going with the lowest price Home Studio versus highest price Studio 9.. just feature-wise roughly, cause I'm not familiar with Mixcraft

What do I loose if going with Mixcraft Home studio? thx

?yep, I was thinking the same, either trimming tool or bounce to clip? I'd like to try it myself, can anyone point me to where I can find that loop, please for me sometimes it was enough to just slip edit a loop and then turn it to the groove clip

That's an interesting one, will check it out, thanks! I've been on a lookout for R-Bass alternative way too long now ?.

And what is your alternative for R-Bass? AFAiK there are no alternatives for it. The ones considered as an alternative do sound too much different to me.

That's a progress. I always thought it's still on alpha.

I'd like to stay offline with my music production machine all the time but now, with the new Windows 10 system it's not an option anymore. With their feature updates every 6 months they may eventually break old ways of working for some programs and then the developers have to adjust with their software updates to make things rolling again. So, you either stay offline on an older Windows version and won't be able to update other programs or you risk breaking compatibility - like Cakewalk is constantly being updated and maintained but officially requires the most recent Windows 10 version - or you're spending way too much time updating all your software every week and sometimes fighting issues from it instead of just doing music. Bad choice.

Remember there is no more VST2 licensing available for new plugins so one can only keep his VST2 stuff until it will eventually get discontinued, that's a fact. The future must be VST3 regardless.

+1 me too ???

Ooooh I so with there was a lever in TTSSEQ.INI... (!)?

My son is having music tech in his school where they teach how to operate Cubase and Ableton Live yet the teacher asked lately to create bandlab accounts and I was like whaat? I remember seeing only Macs in the class room there when I was last time about 2 years ago but now he says they've swapped to Windows.

that's my second nature

Should be a standard feature in Cakewalk's bandlab integration before long.

Started considering myself lucky that I missed out the upgrade to Chromaphone 3 Although I completely appreciate the upgraded sound of the new version and the soundbanks and I find it worth upgrading once past the issues.

Reads like the best supplement for the most paranoid ones.

I had been downloading the whole Sampletank library recently and it was 260GB for me for the whole she-bang.