bmarlowe

Thx for the info. No it is not excluded and I don't have the CwTuner file. I have a couple of other guitar tuner plugins, including the one in Overloud TH-U. I was just curious as to why your particular installation has that DirectX tuner and mine does not.

No I have Sonar paid

So where is my tuner?

Your frustration does not surprise me. FWIW - I have a Focusrite 8i6 and I find the Focusrite control app confusing as hell. Keep in mind that I am a retired electronic engineer and experienced home recordist.

>>> BTW, I think this signal flow chart is one of the more confusing to figure out. Yes but with a little study it I see that it does tell the story, thx sjoens. I did not realize that the Clip FX Rack (I have been using this) is pre-Input Gain.

Bristol_Jonesy - thx for the info. >> Firstly, there are 3 locations for plugins - the Fx Bin & the Pro Channel Probably a typo but you listed only 2 >> Your terminology is a bit misleading... It would not surprise me if I have my terminology definitions wrong. By "Console View track bin" I meant the box in the console view pointed to by the top-most yellow arrow in the pic I posted.

Chaps - Yeah a plugin loaded directly into in the console view track bin is indeed pre. Thanks for that.

Single key shortcuts can be scary though, you have to be careful. I remember panicking over things like a disappearing control bar (I must have inadvertently pressed "c").

Maybe you are right. So then, is there a signal flow difference between an FX chain plugin in pro-channel and a plugin in the FX bin in console view?

See pic below. In the track inspector (at left), for track 28, you can see the FX Chain plugin "NA Doubler." In the console view at right, for that same track 28, in that little FX box, I do not see that plugin. Shouldn't it be there? This is true for any plugin I try. The plugins work, but I never see them in the corresponding track in console view, What am I doing wrong?

I did not know about patch points. Can be very useful. Thanks Kamikaze. Seems well-explained in the Cakewalk Reference manual.

The flatness bothers me a bit, but I like being able to scale the display < 100% - I can see more faders in the console view. I don't think I could do that with CbB.

Thanks Noel

I have been using CbB, and just installed the new SONAR (paid version). In nearly all respects I am very happy with it. But... At https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar an "expanded library of prochannel modules" is mentioned, and what looks like the LP multi-band compresser is shown (see pic below). I don't see any of the LP plugins in my installation . From reading through the threads it seems that the LP plugins are only available if one previously had Sonar Platinum installed. Is that right? If so, that kind of sucks because the above mentioned web page surely indicates that this is part of the new Sonar for which I paid. Perhaps it will part of a future release.

I just installed paid SONAR. All seems fine with respect switching my current project over from Cakewalk, but I don't see any "Additional Prochannel Modules," other than what I already had with the latest Bandlab Cakewalk. My Cakewalk Product Center app shows all new items installed: "Up to Date". Note that I do see the new Overloud guitar stuff.

I just installed paid SONAR. All seems fine with respect switching my current project over from Cakewalk, but I don't see any "Additional Prochannel Modules," other than what I already had with the latest Bandlab Cakewalk. My Cakewalk Product Center app shows all new items installed: "Up to Date". Note that I do see the new Overloud guitar stuff.

Thanks much for that Starship - had not thought of that at all.

Steve - Really well-done. Nice mix. Clearly a lot of good sounding pieces went into this. Just curious - how long did this take you from start to finish?

Nigel and JW- thanks much for commenting.

Great production, memorable catchy melody.

Really nice job on the piano part.

Video and music both awesome

Really nice. Well - done on the cello. Is that a real cello?

Thanks much Tom. Steve- Anyway I am (for now) going to just leave the Eb as is. My apologies to Macca and George Martin.

Thank you Glenn