Amberwolf

Thank you for posting this; it is also what I wish I could get more of. I'm afraid I can't provide much helpful feedback other than that the guitar/drum sets off my tinnitus too much so I couldn't get past the first few seconds, or anywhere else I skipped into it. (there are a bunch of things I want to do in my own music that I can't because of this problem....) Beyond that, it sounds like the vocals are muffled buried in the other sounds, but that could just be how the song is supposed to be. Keep in mind that my tinnitus is severe and so there are numerous vocal range and higher frequencies I literally can't hear anymore, so maybe the vocal sounds that stand out are simply inaudble to me because of that. (some of mine are meant to have things this way, most aren't and there's a bunch of things I should someday go back and remix if I didn't always keep having so many new ideas for new ones I have to work out first).

Thank you for listening! --you're the only one so far. Odd is probably a good description of me, too, though I am poorly put together. Since it is the end titles, I am trying to tie it in to the "whole show", so there are some of the different things in there that are sonic references to other parts in the Drywater, Mars series; I would like to put more in but have not yet figured out how / where. Some of the structure of this one is directly from other parts in the series, as well, trying to make all of these tie together as if they were all pieces from the same "show". Some of it is unique to the end titles themselves, sonically and structurally, so it isn't just a rehash of the others. My only experience with all this is having watched lots of scifi shows, bad and good, and the "feel" of how the really good shows all have music that ties things together like this. I considered trying to read up on what others do for this, but decided to just dive in and try it all out, and see what comes out. More fun, less copying what everyone else already did, and this way its' "all" from my twisted broken mind. Then I figure I can learn from listener feedback and either make new versions or simply whole new tracks. (what little there has been here and on Vi-Control has been helpful, if minimal; I can't seem to get anyone to actually have a discussion with me, vs momentary passing comments that while useful aren't as helpful as ongoing Q&A type discussions would be). This track, and the previous Not Just To Breathe With You (part 5 of DM) have directly come out of some of that feedback. (I also have a couple of other experiements but neither of them have gone anywhere yet, and probably won't, theyre more like sonic scratchpads). The "skyboat" is pretty much a really rough representation of what I was trying to get; there's a better description of it in the main series thread or in my EndlessSphere studio thread, I forget which. I'd like to make individual covers for each track that show the basic idea of each one (as the first does for the main title track), but have not had time to fight with the various tools to get what I want--I've been working on the music of the series almost constantly since making the first one last month, whenever I am home and awake enough to do it, and not serving the needs of the Schmoobean. The hard part is trying ot get the inspirations into the tracks whiel they are still in my brain and haven't leaked out somewhere else yet. Even more I would like to make videos for each one that show at least snippets of what would be going on for each one....but there just isn't enough time. I have visions in my eyes for what I want...and can barely type up waht I am imagining to have a verbal storyboard...

Walk-Away and End Titles (Drywater, Mars Part 6) (initial version) Every show has to have cool end-title music as the heroes walk away at the end, and continue playing under the end titles, right? From the Drywater, Mars series, also collected here in one thread. https://amberwolf.bandcamp.com/track/walk-away-and-end-titles-drywater-mars-part-6

Hmm. Nothing in either thread.... Well, I'll post the newest track for the "show" in this thread and make a new one too, in case it helps, I guess. Walk-Away and End Titles (Drywater, Mars Part 6) (initial version) Every show has to have cool end-title music as the heroes walk away at the end, and continue playing under the end titles, right? https://amberwolf.bandcamp.com/track/walk-away-and-end-titles-drywater-mars-part-6

Can't be completely true, as I am using Windows10 64 bit and my ancient 32-bit Sonitus DX plugins and the old DXi synths like Cyclone, Psyn, etc. all still work perfectly fine (in my ancient pre-gibson SONAR). (I never used TTS1 so I don't have it on here to test but it would probably work too).

If you can tolerate the latency, you can use input monitoring on the track to pass all input of that track while recording thru the fx bin. But it still records it clean onto the track.

DX and DXi are not detected and found by the plugin manager; they must be installed correctly by the installer itself. Some of them can be manually registered with Windows by using regsvr32. If you do a websearch on that phrase you can probably find the instructions to do this. However, if you are using a 64 bit version of Sonar / CbB, it might not be able to use the 32bit plugins. (I don't have either on my machine to test. A while back I had this type of problem with Splat, IIRC, not being able to see 64bit stuff using hte 32 bit version, and not bieng able to see 32bit stuff in the 64 bit version).

That means the plugin is not properly installed, and would need to be reinstalled to fix the problem. If you don't have the installer, and it is the DXi version, you might be able to manually re-register the plugin using regsvr32. I don't recall the procedure, but googling that phrase should find instructions.

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Wierd, the above is "Hidden - This content must be approved before it can be edited." I don't even have any links in it? This forum is so wierd (it doesn't even have a "roll eyes" emoticon)

At the moment, there's no worry about the suno site taking away money; their agreement expressly forbids it's usage for that: they don't say if that's true of the other tiers or not; they are not expressly called out in that agreement in this way. they also repeat this more than once: However, their site does not allow you to create your own independent account there, unless you use your phone number. To create an account without a phone number, you must use one of your existing accounts with some other service, linking these things together. Anyone that doesn't want to do this, or does not have one of these other services, can't use suno.

Something I used to call "programmer syndrome" but is better called "engineer syndrome": almost always, the developer of a product (physical or digital) only ever sees it from the inside, and they don't actually look at the things in the way they are used by their intended userbase. When that userbase responds by telling them how it ought to work to do the required job, the developer typically refuses to change it and sometimes explodes at the user, completely missing the whole point of the product, which is to be used by the user, and thus must do things the way the *user* wants them done, not the way the dev thinks they should be done. Often the problem is only a UI issue--the under-the-hood stuff works fine, but is not user-accessible in a useful way, or in a user-friendly or workflow-friendly way. These issues usually get the hardest pushback from the dev, which is the most ridiculous part of it, since the dev should be making the User Interface for the user, not for themselves...but they make it the way the program internally works, not the way the user needs to access those features. I have almost never been able to get this across to devs. The Bakers here have been the most responsive of all of the devs I've ever worked with, but even they have this syndrome now and then, prioritizing program design and operation over user interface and user-experience like any other dev. Sometimes it is because a dev thinks they know how a feature should be used...but it doesn't matter what they think--what matters is what the *user* wants to do with the program and they way they need to do that, *especially* with art creation, as an artist is not going to do things in some programmatical way, in most cases. Each one has a way that works for their art, and the program must be adapted or adaptable to that, which is one reason presets and other UI customizability is so very important. There are many such improvements in customizability in Sonar / etc., though from the posts I see around here some of them could stand some improvement in user-awareness-functionality, and in control accessibility / state-visibility. It's not easy to make a UI at all, much less one that does all the things a complex program (like Sonar) can, and it's impossible to make a single UI that does everything every user needs it to in the way the user needs it to...so complete customizability is essential for such complex programs. Customizability is even harder to create flawlessly than a fixed UI...so anyone attempting to do it at all gets my congratulations and eternal thanks, even while I goad them on to continuous further improvements. But when a program (or device) foists a UI on user, especially an artist, it is at best unhelpful, and usually actively prevents a user from doing the things they want to do. As much as I dislike most of the current usages of AI, I can't wait until AI is advanced enough to alter existing programs for me tell it to create the UI I need, as I need it. Or even just to create a UI "over the top" of the program, so that when I need to do something, it lets me tell it what controls I need, and what information I need displayed, and then I tell it what to do with those and it makes me the UI I need to see for the stuff I am doing at that time, and refine it as I go.

Guess that's why it's free, doesn't have the most basic of functions. Or conversely, it doesn't save presets because it's a free version of something else? (or is going to be? I don't know this developer or their products)

You could record the metronome sound in a track, trim it, and export the clip, put it in Sonar's metronome folder...

Names are probably the only thing I'm pretty good at. (the songs hardly even get listened to, and almost never more than partway thru, so I imagine they can't be as good as the names). Ditto.

The specific error would be more helpful in resolving your problem, as the description you give is similar to another error that means something is not installed, but not the same and so probably doesn't mean that. It also doesn't say what specifically is missing, making it even more difficult to help you find/fix it.

I've never had the full version of SD, just the Lite that came with some version of SONAR. What is it that doesn't happen as expected when you set it up in the current version of Sonar?

Seems pretty useless to have something you can alter settings in but not save presets for, so I'd guess there must be a way. If not, you might want to ask them why such a basic function would be left out. But they might be like BabyAudio, where they don't think users should be allowed to have fine control over their plugins, and don't let you change most parameters, it's all buried "under the hood" so that some potentially really useful plugins are just left as useless garbage for anyone that wants that control and isn't just a "preset pusher".

I would guess (without having tested this) that you'd probably have to have the CC data (or whatever it is you want to overwrite) on a separate track from the MIDI notes and other data, so that overwrite mode won't destroy any other data in that section.

FWIW, speaking voices generally use a fairly narrow range, around 2khz to 4khz, for their primary information content. Most of the time you can automate a simple EQ with a single band and adjustable Q factor on hte soundtrack track or bus to "duck" the soundtrack in that frequency band during the sections the narrator is speaking, and gradually go back to normal when they're not. There are other frequencies down around 80–200hz and/or 160–260hz depending on the speaker that can conflict, too, but they don't usually cause problems understanding the speech. (the actual frequency range varies based on the speaker, but quite often the "telephone" setting in an EQ will have a useful range already in it, you just have to flip the gains on the bands so that it is ducking that range and leaving the rest alone, instead of ducking the rest and leaving just that). Or even less complex, you can use a simple compressor like the Core compressor in Duck mode on the soundtrack track or bus, with it's sidechain input fed from the vocal bus, to automatically reduce the gain of the sountrack whenever the narrator is speaking. With this, the only parts you usually have to adjust are the attack / decay and the gain. This is much simpler than analysing the tracks to find their conflicts, and generally works perfectly well.

I keep forgetting that exists, since it's design is nothing useful to me....so I didn't even think of it when I replied. My apologies to the OP if Bandlab (vs Cakewalk by Bandlab) is what you are referring to, in which case my instructions would be useless.

I might be misrembering, but I think Next has it's own format, or can open the new shared format that Sonar saves in. To open .CWP files from CbB, I believe you must use Sonar. If this is the case, then once open in Sonar, you could then resave as a new file using the new shared format with Next.

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Something I discovered a long time ago is that, "impossibly", wires just "go bad" all the time, even just sitting there, never moving, no vibration, etc. When I'm troubleshooting something, in any technology, one of the first things I do if I have spare cables, wires, etc., is to swap them out. If it's intermittent, and the wiring is not just a pluggable cable, I'll move it around especially near where it exits or enters a device...and usually I'll find the problem there. There are reasons these failures happen, but...still....

AFAICR there is an option in settings for this? If it is a periodic silence, it's probably a plugin that has lost it's authorization or isn't working right; many "demo" versions use periodic silences (usually of random duration and event time) to encourage purchase. Regarding TTS1, if you had it installed on the system, it should still work in Sonar. (unless you uninstalled whichever program had installed it and uninstalled TTS1 with it). There is also at least one thread around here for TTS1 explaining how to get it back, though I don't know if the procedure still works or if it's universal. I don't have a link so you'll need to poke around for it.