Bass Guitar

Actually Im afraid Sonar has just about fallen to the bottom of the list of most popular Daw’s of 2025. It’s not even on most of them. Cakewalk at least used to make the lists. Oddly enough Bandlab the app is on the list. So that’s an interesting insight into where the cash flow is coming from.

I’ve been using Waveform for over a year part time. One big difference between Sonar and Waveform that I noticed is that it only uses one type of track. That track can be a Midi track, Instrument track or an Audio track. It also has a lot of built in tempo detection and mapping which is typically for people who use audio loops. So possibly looking at what is the difference between the track used in Waveform and the track used in Sonar might explain something.

Ya your choices of sample and bit rates is a unusual. I'd most certainly stick with 44.1/ 24 or 48/24 as the default for projects. I doubt that a cheapo Realtek chip is even that capable of recording audio at 32. As a matter of fact your problem could possibly be caused by something like that. Here's a cool way to find out fast what track is causing the issue. Open the export dialogue and choose " Tracks through entire mix" I recommend setting it at 44.1/ 32 because that was your project rate and then nothing gets converted. Leave dither off. This will export each track as a stem. The cool trick here is that it solos each track as it exports in turn. You can watch the progress as it solos and renders each track. If it gets to a certain track and you get the error you will now know which one caused this to happen. If it doesn't choke then you at least now have stems you can re create the project with. ( in any Daw)

Seems like you found the solution.

So true. Best to stay simple and not use crap that is always trying to update or authorize. A good reason why I am leaning towards hardware again.

In a way yes. Im sure you were aware that you were on borrowed time for the end of life of Cakewalk. For such a simple task I m wondering why you would have chosen to use it. Hopefully it was just one song and not a lot more. As said above, before you close the project you have options to easily salvage the audio files. Once you close I think it’s all gone but it might be still in the audio folder. Might be in the temporary global audio folder.

Im afraid this is was a more less drive by rant. Jake first posted this in Aug. got two responses. Left the building with no reply. Didn’t return for 2 Months. Continue rant and now gets more responses and possibly will return again in a few more months. I find it amazing that this is a complaint about installing software? Two months later still trying??

I would definitely recommend recording using a different app as a test. You can try Cakewalk Next. Waveform is also free. Don’t try Audacity because it doesn’t support ASIO. There’s been a few posts this fall from Focusrite , Motu and RME users having similar issues and it’s pointing to something W11 have screwed up. Someone even mentioned that they found W11 was running in 44.1 even though they had set everything to 48 Myself I had to shelve my Motu M4 because it keeps going distorted if I leave my computer on for a few hours. I have to restart.

I’m assuming that you are recording a real bass. Are you using your interface direct monitoring system or are you using the tracks input echo? I’ve never experienced hearing latency in over 16 years of Sonar and at least 7 different audio interfaces. But I always use direct monitoring when tracking vocals. Guitar and bass. Track Input echo (monitoring ) is always off otherwise you will hear the round trip latency of your system. I only use the tracks input monitor for midi recording. The only time I might use it is messing around with a guitar sim VST like TH3

Sorry if we side tracked you with the Real tek issue. You don’t have it. At least I don’t see it listed in Cakewalk or the Register. It was just one of the possibilities. So forget that one. Your screenshot of Sonars in / out list shows that you have everything set up correctly. What isn’t working correctly right now? Just the distortion? There’s been a few reports on other music forums about W11 distortion issues with name brand audio interfaces. I myself have a similar problem with a Motu M4. If I leave the computer on for a few hours I get distortion in all my Daw’s but not Windows app like Media player. So it’s something going on with W11 and the ASIO drivers. To test this try another Daw. Waveform is free. Make sure and choose ASIO mode. You can also try Cakewalk Next. It’s not designed like Cakewalk but it’s pretty easy to use. And you just might be the last person on earth using Cakewalk still. You need to take some time and read the announcements posted at the top of the forum. Starting 2 years ago it all changed. I have submitted a ticket to Motu about my issue, you might want to do the same. But they will ask you to try another Daw to test. I’ve seen reports of RME, Focusrite, Motu and now Tascam where there is distortion of the audio. One person reported that they found out W11 was running in 44.1 mode in the background. Even though they had it set to 48 in settings. They used some sort of tool to detect this. I can’t find the thread now. I think it was on Gear Space.

I do believe that there used to be the links at the bottom of the web page for Next. But that all might have changed with the free version stuff. looks to me like it’s just having a bad hair day as the wheel is going around and around. Welcome to the wonderful world of on line activating. Turn off your computer and go have a beer. Tomorrow will bring good luck.

I think the difference is that Ripple edit also removes chunks of data from the tempo track and automation. Im pretty sure deleting a hole doesn’t.

It’s in the Help menu just like all software. But I simply Googled “Cakewalk Next Users Guide “ and found the PDF.

OK just to test I loaded up a multi out track template and it works like it always does. This might look a little different because I only have Platinum. You used the word "import"? did you mean to say Insert? You see at the bottom of the list my TTS-1 4 output track template. You see here I get the four tracks as well as the TTS-1 most certainly is loaded and ready to go.

You gotta be kidding me?

Looks good. Seems like you found the right place in the Reg Edit app. That’s what it should look like when all you have is one interface. And Sonar looks correct as well. You should be good to go. Tascam has always been a first class company and made a lot of great products for us home studio folks. I have the predecessor of yours I bought in 2008. The us1641. It has recorded a million projects. It still works as good as new but uses W7.

In my wisdom from being older that I should be for doing this stuff. I am returning to traditional recording techniques. I want to see what I can accomplish without using midi. I have been using Midi since 1986 and my Atari computer. I figured nobody ever listens to my music anyway so why not relax and have fun playing with my collection of instruments. My stuff is like the music from the 60’s- 70’s so not hard to emulate those recordings. Turn off the metronome etc. For my last run of backing tracks I used Steve Slates free kit. Didn’t even tweak it. It works! Im not sure if it has any brushes. Probably could purchase them.

Why don’t you try Cakewalk Next? Go to page 63 of the user manual and see how simple it is. First save your Sonar project as a Cakewalk Interchange Format CXF file. This will allow you to open the project in Next. Change the tempo and either carry on or transfer back to Sonar. Next doesn’t have a Console view so that part is a deal breaker for final mix down.

Funny how brushes are so hard to find good quality samples for. Years ago I gave up looking and ordered a set of VicFirth wire brushes. I have a Ludwig Vistalite snare. It has a Remo Fiberskin head. Those are the modern day version of a Calfskin. So I recorded this and have about 10 different samples. I play them using Session Drummer with the snare and Octapad thing. The hardest sample to find is a good drag across the head sound. Im glad to see the return of Session Drums. It’s the only drum VST Im aware of that allows you to play your own samples.

I think the OP is confusing replacing a Synth with the concept of what drum replacer is for. If you don’t like the sound of any VST instruments you can choose “Replace “ and swap it for something else. As said Drum Replacer was designed to augment real drum recordings with midi drum sounds. By default it uses some pretty lame sounding drum sounds. But you can use any other drum VST by dragging the drum replacer track to a drum vst track . It takes a lot of screwing around to actually make it play even the kick drum. I sort of don’t think it gets used much by anyone. When it first came out I played around with it on some multi track acoustic drum tracks and after a few hours of tweaking managed to get the kick drum extracted and converted it to a midi track. Yahoo. It would have been faster to use Melodyne. The snare was way harder and it totally misses things like rim shots and other important parts. Then you can totally forget any cymbals.

Im not sure I follow this? I have about 12 track templates that are for different VST instruments. They all load up no problem including the instrument. It doesn’t seem to matter if they are stereo or multi track. They all do as expected and even create the proper buses. I actually don’t use project templates anymore. I only use the track templates starting from scratch with a Blank Template.

What Im learning is that a lot of Daw’s like Next and Mixcraft, Waveform etc are designed with audio loops in mind. So it’s part of the plan to allow for a zillion different loops and a zillion different tempos. Sonar and a few other old school Daw’s are sort of designed based on the old tape machine and mixing board concept. Im not a loop person as I actually play all my instruments. But I’m slowly learning how having solid tempo management is something that even I need from time to time. it totally blew me away the day I discovered that out of the 4 Daw’s I currently use that Mixcraft had the changing the tempo thing down solid like that. Trouble with Sonar is it is a beast. It’s become way overly complex and therefore just about everything you try to do is super complicated. Im a big fan of simple! I hope Cakewalk Next gets enough development time to grow. I really like the idea and the simplicity of what it does so far. It needs ARA!!

Yes definitely. The Cakewalk staff have said that this is to be expected and best to totally remove the Real tel Asio driver from your computer. What might have happened is W11 re- installed the Realtek driver. Remove it using the Register Editor. Look under Software/ AsIO

First you don't mention is you are using ASIO? It looks like you have the latest driver Version 4 which Tascam claims supports W11 24H2 But the message is implying either a bad connection or that a USB port has gone to sleep. Sometimes if that happens while Sonar is running then you get that message and you might have to restart Sonar or even your computer. This is confusing because it is not clear what you mean? Normally we use our Audio interface for all sound and the studio monitors are connected to the interface. Are you using both? Most people totally disable the on board audio card when using a proper interface. You don't need it. You interface will connect with Windows audio system and play all sound. In the case of Sonar you have to be carful about setting everything to use the same sample rate. I use only 48 because Videos are 48. Every audio interface is a little different when it comes to handling multiple apps playing audio. I've never had an issue with Sonar if I use 48. But other Daw's I have barf on that and stop running.

In Mixcraft I first set the audio tracks to " Use Project Tempo" and then just change the master tempo. I'm pretty sure you can also do this in Cakewalk Next. I don't think I ever got this to work smoothly in Sonar. It's a complicated procedure. Here's the answer from Googles friendly AI To change the tempo of an audio track in Sonar, you can either change the project's global tempo using the Control Bar ( Note :this is wrong) or use the Audio Snap palette to synchronize individual clips to the project's tempo. For more advanced control, you can automate tempo changes in the Tempo track or insert tempo changes using the Project menu. Select the audio clip(s) you want to change. Enable Groove Clip Looping on the clip by right-clicking it and choosing "Groove > Clip Looping" from the menu. Open the AudioSnap palette by pressing ALT+A. In the palette, select "Set Clip Tempo From Project" from the "Average Tempo" drop-down menu. This will make the clip follow the project's tempo map. You may need to manually adjust the clip's beat markers in the Tempo view for the best results.