John Vere

If the plug in uses an installer the common generic system will allow you to uncheck unwanted versions. And you can select the pathway for each type. If not then I would point that out to the developers as who on earth still uses 32 bit anyway? 32 bit plug ins usually get put in the Program 86 folder and I keep that one out of Cakewalks plug in scan. So even if you can control the installer the 32 bit plug ins are easily ignored by the scanner. I only have 2 32 bit VST’s lurking and those I moved the the 64 bit folder.

You might want to post this in the Feedback thread that’s were bugs ? go

Ms

My head is already too full of audio geek trivia so I’m not sure I can squeeze that one in but I have a feeling it will. I think I’ll hire someone to cut my lawn this summer so I’ll have more spare time for this.

Talk about " There's always more than one way to do anything in Cakewalk" Now that's the shortcut I like. and easy to remember D= Duplicate, clever. Interesting it placed the copy after the last note selected but it was a hair early. I tried setting snap to grid to whole note and it was still just a hair early. I opened a new project and tried again and now it was late by a 1/64 note. Tried snap and still the same. Played around and defiantly works but seems out of my control as to what happens. No big deal you can easily drag them to correct place. Thanks for the new idea to play with.

Is that what it looked like when you got it or did you chop it up trying to extract the tempo. If it didn't look like that and you have the original do as Mark said above to try and set the tempo. If that's what it looked like you can fix that by exporting it as tracks. Make your setting like mine in the screenshot and you will get all the tracks as continues stems from start to end. Then do as Mark says to create a tempo map that only drift a little bit. Tempo maps that look like the one you have are wrong and not musical. The tempo should only vary a little and in a smooth way if you tap along carefully. It may take a few tries to create the manual click track but I've done it a few time and it does work. I insert SI drums and use the snare side stick. C#. Once you have a usable tempo map then there are some options to line up each track. I used to chop them up like it looks in your screen shot. I now use Melodyne. You can set it's grid same as the projects and use the time tool to put the blobs where they belong. I do this a lot for 3 part harmonies. Some versions of Melodyne can quantize automatically to the grid. Manually it is time consuming but wow does it sound good when done. Sometimes the lead vocal isn't perfect so I place the Now Time at it's transient start and use that to line up the Harmonies. Cakewalk also has a Vocal sync regional effect but it never worked for me which is most likely pilot error. I have not read the instructions yet as I'm happy enough with my Melodyne workflow. I have the editor open anyhow to fix pitch and amplitude.

Sorry if my comment seemed aimed at you it totally wasn't, I was tossing in one of my famous pep talks. A lot of new users are not even musicians at all and I like to encourage those people to try. The keyboard is the best instrument to learn about music on because it will make perfect sounds the first time you touch it. ( well if you hit only one note) The Saxophone or a violin I don't think anybody ever got a perfect tone out of the first attempt

Exactly. My normal song creating is Guitar and vocals sketch tracks played to a generic drum beat that seems close enough for now. Rarely I might use the metronome if I'm in a hurry to get an idea down. Then real bass converted to midi. Then I build keyboard parts playing my controller to match the feel of the Vocal guitar parts. I might slow the tempo down if I'm struggling. It's pretty easy to slow the tempo down if you know how. Just activate Audio snap for the guitar and vocal tracks, clip follows project. Doesn't matter if they get trashed as they are just rough anyhow. But they actually don't get trashed. I'll tidy up in PVR quantize and fix bloopers but I don't get fancy just yet. Now I'll build a good drum track following the bass etc. Now I'll find the correct tempo and lay down the audio tracks perfectly as possible. Next I get fancy with the midi keyboard parts in PVR adding layers and adding more notes, adjusting timing so it's in perfect sync to the drums, bass and guitar. Add keyboard harmony parts for the vocals. But now this-I like to add Little fills that I can draw easier than play -- and its these little fills and runs I like to add that this copy/paste method will now save me time. This could also be handy for drum Tom fills. So another big thanks to @OutrageProductions My chops have been steadily improving since I was sort of forced to learn keyboard back in 1986 so I could create Midi tracks... So you folks who are just starting out. Even if you've never played keyboard,, it's not that difficult to play one very badly and fix stuff with midi. Over time, like me, there will be less stuff to fix. It's actually very rewarding and I actually played my first gig as an official keyboard player last November. So put that mouse down and order a keyboard controller right now, you'll never regret it. This is my recommendation- https://www.roland.com/au/products/a-49/

You learn something new everyday. I actually didn't think it was possible to copy paste in PVR. Never tried the Windows shortcuts. Works brilliantly. Thanks . Of note is it works just like copy paste in Melodyne. The paste always goes on the original location you cannot point where you want it to go. But after you paste it will make a double layer so you can actually pull those off the original and move them. I see Cakewalk lets you do this for one note but not a chord. But moving the now time places the copy there. I see why you said that now. Therefore you could progress through a song placing chords one after the other and then moving them up or down and change the intervals and, and? and,,, o my, I think I'll stick with playing my keyboard. no matter how much I suck it's still faster..

Si' Lexicon Alpha = Problema malo Controlador de audio intentar WASAPI shared ( probably doesn't support it)

For me it's become second nature to make sure and turn on things like my Yamaha drums if I plan on using them in a session. It's just part of the routine to fire up the studio for the day. And I don't really find it a bother to quickly re check midi device boxes when needed. Takes less than a minute. It is one of the benefits of a simple hardware set up that is only using your audio interfaces midi port. That can be left checked in the midi outputs and midi tracks globally will still find it. Then it's only a matter of the channels used per device. I can't fathom having a midi set up that only used just USB. You would need a couple of USB PCIe cards I guess. But there are some changes slowly happening with Midi 2.0 and it's use of USB C ports. Possibly windows might also incorporate better port management with these changes.

Dim Pro uses 2 authorization codes. A serial Number and a registration code. They have to match. Because I have purchased different variations of Sonar over time I seem to have at least 6 executable Dim pro files in my back up folders for software. The latest is 1.5. It is possible to have more than one set of registration numbers. But If you install from Command center and use the serial and registration shown and carefully copy paste and run as Administrator it will work every time. I have installed Dim pro and Rapture on 5 of my computer I run Cakewalk on. It has never been an issue and running as Administrator has become second nature. I install them from my back up hard drive where I have a Command center's last Download folder stored. I have a Note pad document with all my Cakewalk serial numbers as well. That's all I need. I don't need to run Command center. My most treasured back up is X3e which at one point I thought might be the end of the line for Cakewalk when the servers died. But they didn't. Important tip of the day: I highly recommend people who own Sonar Platinum do what many of us did that dark December before Bandlab came to the rescue. Don't trust that your software will be available through Command Center forever. Run command center and download everything. Copy the Download folder to a safe place a bunch of times. It is found in Program Data/Cakewalk/Command center. Then write down all those serial and registration numbers in a document and store those there too. You can also get older products like X3 from your Cakewalk user account. Download everything and copy those numbers. Access to that account could disappear overnight. This will resolve a zillion future issues like the one the OP is having. That and remembering to run as Admin. Go purchase a couple of cheap thumb drives. Store it on your wife's computer, store it on one drive, store it on every back up drive you have. Rebuilding a new computer? just grab the back up drive and go at it.

I went to purchase the Doctor. In Dave’s article it mentioned $20 which is my budget, but it is now $63 CAN. However I can actually use the demo no problem You just have to close and reopen for each plug in. I played with it for a while and realized I have to read the manual before it will be of use to me. It might be over my head even thought I understand the terminology. The most important reading, the performance meter! might as well be a picture of a stick man waving his arms around! The only one I can make sense of is the Harmonic Analyst as that like using M osilator and Span or M analyzer. if I can eventually figure it out I will buy it, but I’m grateful there’s a useable demo. I’m not sure I have any stuff by Acustica. ? I'll check... OK now I remember, I have Tan, Coral, Titanium and Coffee the Pun. Those are the "bastards" that installed 3 of each just for skins, and then the VST2 and 3 versions. Low points for installation bloat. That might be a good one to see what happens to the meters so I know what a hog looks like. My favorite HOG is the LP multi Band. Put that on the master and forget about editing in real time.

I had a weird one today. I was revisiting an older project and noticed the harmonies were a bit out of key as well as timing issues. I was soloing the track as I fixed stuff in Melodyne but it all of a sudden sounded weird?? Turned out the track had some lanes and two were playing at same time. So I was fixing lane 1 and then lane 2 became noticeable! I hate lanes for this very reason and stopped using them a few years ago so was surprised to have them rear their ugly head again.

I was to understand that if contacted Support they help you get at your account where all your old products are stored? Or does that not exist for people who didn’t create it? I guess if you never bothered the register Sonar then they can’t help you. That is No fault of Cakewalk but negligence on behalf of the consumer.

I’m thinking this post will disappear into oblivion in a day or 2. So I would post this in the instruments sub forum in the Freeware thread which is bumped to the top often.

Could be. Certainly crashes for me. That and any 32 bit plug ins. TTS seems fine if it’s the first thing in a project. I still might use it briefly to open a download midi file to see if I can use it. If I keep it I then delete half the tracks and keep the bass, drums and keyboard parts that sound like a real player made them. I replace Bass with Ample p bass lite, drums with AD2 and keyboards with my arsenal of VST keyboards. If I do keep a guitar part ( rare) I use Ample for acoustic and Strum session for electric. Horns I use Dim Pro or xpand 2. For a live show I would stay far away from anything that has that potential to crash. Besides TTS 1 is pretty sub standard quality compared to most others available now.

Absolutely Software belongs on C drive or you will have nothing but problems.

Funny you mentioned Melda. After testing over 80 compressors the Mcompressor is my new go to trustworthy compressor. It is replacing the Sonitus. If you can’t get what you need out of the Mcompressor you need to take more lessons. It actually has a built in tutorial. And it has the all important meters which most of those wannabe vintage ones don’t have. Between that and the CA 2A I’m covered. That took about 3 months so let’s see how fast I can seek out and find my go to Delay to also replace the Sonitus.

I break my vocals into the lines of the lyrics. Each song is different but that doesn't make it any more work to open a lot of clips. I zoom in so I don't like too many note blobs on my screen. I have just come up with a huge timesaver, Custom Short cuts keys. I had never used these 2 before and they are really easy to reach. Just put the clip in focus before using the keys. Z= open regional effect Melodyne X = Render regional effect. Close your eyes and I'll kiss you, Tomorrow I'll miss you; clip 1 Remember I'll always be true. clip 2 And then while I'm away, I'll write home ev'ry day, clip 3 And I'll send all my loving to you. clip 4

That was a very interesting read. I'm in. Going to purchase it. For testing compressors I had to use things like M Oscillator and that didn't tell you as much as this does. This tool I think is defiantly worth it for people who use free plug ins. We are sort of taking a chance and can only use our ears. People blindly slap those little Tape emulators and one knob dials that promise analog vibe to their mix without really knowing what is actually happening. My personal quest is mostly for plug ins that are Clean.

Actually once you save and close the project undo is not available. So it's good you didn't close it. Or? If what you are saying is you closed it without saving then that is also fine because any work would be lost and the clip should not have the regional effects applied when you re open the project again.

Always work with a copy of the track. Always work with short clips around 4 to 8 measures. Rendering is destructive and it is possible for things to go wrong. Second you might not like the results so it’s easy to re copy that clip and start over. Did you try Undo-render?

Good call I missed that. D drive is not a normal place for program files and VST folders. All of mine are C drive and in either Cakewalk, Stienberg or VST folders. The VST 3 are in the Common folder. So just 4 pathways.

Odd never crashes for me and I know there’s a lot of others use it. And that said when Cakewalk does crash 99% of the time it’s a plug in. This is why I recommend only using very solid dependable VST instruments. Example most of us are finding the TTS-1 can crash Cakewalk so it only used to open midi files and preview. But I hope you have your answers to the original question now and can get you projects saved in proper folders . But I don’t see why you would need to have any audio in the first place. Freezing instruments is only something you do with supper large projects to save CPU. Read the info on my blog I posted in my last reply for details on this. I haven’t added the info about using the playlist yet. One last question. Is there a reason you need multi track playback. Can you not use just a stereo or split mono playback?