John Vere

No problem you would use Cakewalk playlist and the live keyboard track will use mute via automation

Update July 29 2024

That's all bad information. The first video you posted above immediately lost me when he said you don't need to do anything if your using on board audio??? This is why I made videos.. https://youtu.be/z3UnPHn6J3Y

Watch my video. You will need to delete asio4all from your computer including in reg edit. It’s known to be invasive and can interfere with other drivers.

I use Cakewalk for live keyboards Simple. Insert all the instruments you want as simple instrument tracks. Assign each a midi channel Activate global input echo Now all you do is change channels on your keyboard controller. Just one important thing. Always have the keyboard connected and turned on before you boot Cakewalk. Been using this all winter at practice and a few gigs using a cheap laptop and on board audio ,, always works. I also set up midi learn to control the volume and an effects send to a chorus effect. The limit is 16 channels but I’m not playing in Pink Floyd so I’m only needing 7 instruments.

No as I said it's a different Interface and the tools are different. And it depends on which version you own. The basic version doesn't do any where near as much as the full versions. But just like a wave editor you can split, apply gain up or down. Add fade in and fade outs. and then you can adjust the timing and change the pitch. And with the version I have I can even remove or fix bad notes from a full guitar chord. You know, sloppy playing like you hit the low E when playing a D chord. This topic is about fixing random notes that went over and became possibly distorted. You can most certainly do that in melodyne. Go to Celemony's web site and watch the tutorials you will quickly see what I'm going on about. It is a very powerful tool for anyone who has a desire to clean up sloppy singing or guitar playing. Or making a near perfect performance 100% perfect. I used to believe in re doing parts until they were perfect. This is still the best approach when you are in your prime of life. But realize that I'm not as good as I used to be so this is my electric wheel chair to help me on the final leg of my long musical journey.

Good advice, it's too bad you never see this. I just was cruising with the search title of Download the SI instruments for Cakewalk. First was a ancient web page where I could buy it. You have to realize how much things like this such. Google is to blame. They put the web page with the most hits at the top. This results in useless information which is outdated. Then there were 4 videos all right away using the Bandlab assistant with abandon. I'm not a fan of obsolete info and this is one of the reasons I'm totally redo all my videos. In the 2 years since I first made the first few things have changed. Not much but enough. And if they change again the my videos that are outdate will get nuked and replaced again.

It's isn't really called a wave editor as that's a title reserved for programs that are dedicated to that task. But in the end it is a wave editor because it takes audio and has editing capabilities that manipulate the digital data exactly like a wave editor does. It is really just a different Graphic image of a wave file. So when you say it is not the wave file you are editing this is incorrect. The graphic design is to optimize and allow for pitch correction. Each little blob is actually a tiny representation of a mono wave form if you zoom in. And Melodyn as I said just like a wave editor is destructive and permanently alters the audio file once you are done and render it. Only a fool would leave Melodyne clips active in a project. That is asking for all sorts of trouble. The only thing a person needs to understand is that there is destructive and non destructive editing of audio. Destructive editing can often lead to unwanted audio artifacts so one need to always have a back up and be careful as they work. You are scrambling ones and zeros. Non destructive editing does not create audio artifacts because you are keeping your original unaltered data and all you are doing is give the software commands to alter parameters such as volume or mute which are not invasive to the original audio. Taking a track and Normalizing it or applying Gain are other examples of destructive editing that are easily avoided by other means such as simply using the tracks gain control which is non destructive. Adding Gain using processing permanently alters the original file and scrambles the ones and zeros. its rare but there is always a danger of adding unwanted artifacts to any audio that was scrambled.

No I seriously think I still know a lot less that many people here and come to think about it, scook has been missing in action for a while. He always has the correct answer to these sort of questions too. Hope he's OK. I said that because the "smarter " people here will remember the early days of terror at having to use it all the time to keep updated and logged in. I actually had to download and install it just earlier before I posted as I guess I un installed it a few months ago. Obviously it's not needed so that's why I was reluctant to direct people to install it. I think I will just say " Make sure to download and install the SI Instrument suite which you will find in the Cakewalk installer or the Bandlab assistant" There done! I think they keep the Bandlab assistant because it might be the only way to install Bandlab?

@Lord Tim 1. I sort of thought so but someone the other day said something about re sizing and that's why I asked. I guess they were refering to the method I often use but I'm sort of lazy and I just tend to shoot a screenshot and I only crop them. I guess it's not hard to re size using the photos editing tools. And the You Tubes I'm aware of the link option and I often use that as well I put my Channel Playlist in my signature but many people use cell phones and signatures don't show. But a thought will be to have little thumbnails on hand I just insert as unlinked pictures. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGt7K5L5fUIUF_UjCsdAVCbd 2. The problem with that is I cannot confirm what happens as I already have Cakewalk installed. So I will have to assume it is very obvious to people that they can install the SI suite. But many people are using the Bandlab assistant still because it's an option on the web page. And all the tutorials tell people to use it because they are outdated now. I have totally avoided mentioning anything about how to install Cakewalk in my tutorials because it kept changing and I'm still not dead sure how it works. My only choice would be to totally uninstall it from one of my computers and start over I guess. Thanks as that does clear it up. But I was hoping there was a direct link.

If it was me I would first hold down shift and drag the Midi data to the Instrument track. You don't need the separate midi track. Then you freeze the synth. Then if you want to save the audio you have a few options. 1- Export the the track as a stem using your projects sample rate and 32 bit no dither. make sure to select entire project. You can drag this back into the project. 2- Bounce the track -Really bouncing opens the same dialogue as well so no real difference just different button to press. 3. With the track frozen open the project audio folder in the Browser and you will find that tracks audio so you can drag that to the project. That track in the audio folder is deleted when you unfreeze the synth.

1- How in heck can you make an inserted picture smaller? Especially when I insert my You Tube links. I find it way too big and would prefer if they were only thumbnail sized. Same with screenshots which are way bigger than needed most times. 2-Are the SI instrument only available via the dreaded Bandlab assistant? I'm just working on a tutorial and realized new people might not have those installed so would be nice to show them how to get them. I thought they were available as a dedicated installer but I can't find one.

It is one of the downsides of Cakewalk for new users. It is such old code and has been re done so many times that the result is software that might have up to 6 ways to access the same function. And you will find your self using an older outdated method out of habit. Then one day find a different?/better?/ newer?/ way and go why didn't know that 10 years ago? Making the tutorials has made me explore as many of these options as possible. As a result my workflow has changed dramatically over the last 2 years as I discover easier ways to do things. Almost everything found in the (Windows 98?) menu bar will have another option and many are either keyboard shortcuts or as in this case a simple right click on the highlighted clip.

This is the dialogue I always get when I choose Edit-Copy. I guess I was unaware that is is called Copy Special, it just says copy, but I see you are correct as the Help module is calling it that. Thanks for the clarification. It's odd how when you look there are 3 little dots indicating there is more to the text,, And to further mystify the Paste has both options? Is the Copy text having a bug issue there in the graphics?

As I was reading your post yesterday I was pondering all this, Now I read this statement and I see what is true. I do believe that they are only for external hardware. This is because it saves you pushing buttons on the hardware to find a sound. You just dial in the sound from Cakewalk using the track inspector. VST instruments for the most part are not GM midi and don't use the track inspectors bank and patch system. Only the TTS=1 will respond to patch changes, at least that's my experience. You have to change the patches in the VST interface. Example If I have a downloaded midi file and it is GM it will have patches and the TTS-1 will play those GM sounds. Say a Clean Guitar and TTS-1 will play a Clean Guitar. I insert Strum Session and re assign that midi track to it and forget to change the patch number in the track headed but Strum Session will ignore it and the default Acoustic guitar will play. I'm pretty sure that Xpand2, Dim Pro behave the same way. For sure Addictive drums seems to ignore all the sys exclusive and other midi messages it will be bombarded with. Thank goodness for that. I still delete all the extra events in the Event list and track header anyways. So instrument definitions you are looking for are in the menus of the VST and the track inspector is not involved as I would believe for the majority of VST instruments.

The first videos I published are all about Cakewalk and Audio. Here is my Play list https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGt7K5L5fUIUF_UjCsdAVCbd For sure watch this one

When you use the copy feature the dialogue that opens has a box to choose if you want the arranger section to also be copied.

Good move! I have a few VST drums and Addictive drums for me works the best. The mixer allows me to only need the stereo outputs instead of multi channel to process the audio. I find everything I need is built in. It’s not perfect but I have managed to squeeze pretty close to what I like with just the built in effects. The Overhead and room mikes makes a huge difference to even the snare, just like a real mikes up kit would be. My only complaint is that they never have super sales so I could grab more kits and pieces. Now you really gave me GAS for the Roland kits.

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3 videos that cover audio set up in Cakewalk link is in my signature.

As I said my DTX kit is very basic compared to yours so it probably wasn’t as much involved in linking the hi hat pedal to the VST. Before all I got was the GM open and closed which as you know is a mile away from how a hi hat is actually played. Now I get acceptable variety of opening sounds which I have no clue how that works but it definitely made a difference. I guess my pedal sends a continuous controller event and Addictive drums has multiple samples to match that. I need to learn what articulation is all about. I’ve never looked into it and I have a feeling it’s important to create more realistic midi instruments.

Actually when you render a Melodyne edited clip the original clip is permanently changed this is what we call destructive editing, A wave editor is also a destructive. Melodyne is just a wave editor with a different user interface. Plus the pitch editing is more intuitive. Using Volume envelopes, the clip gain or split, slip editing, fade tool etc. methods are non destructive editing. The original audio is still in the folder unscathed. Before you perform any destructive editing it is recommended you have a safe back up of the original.

As I said, I found that was probably the lowest quality wave editor I had ever used. It's the only one I didn't keep on my system. Wave Lab had paid for it self over and over. I'm way behind on updates and only using Version 5. It's now version 11. As Cakewalks features have improved along with my skills of using it, I find Wave lab is not used as much anymore. I still use it for mastering the final exports. It also has the proper tools for CD tagging and sequencing. Another lost art. The below are links to the ones I use and all of them are free to try. I actually don't ever use Audacity but it's a powerful little audio app for absolutely free. I mostly use Wave Lab as like Cakewalk I've used it since 2004 so it's familiar. https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/ https://www.magix.com/ca/music-editing/free-download/sound-forge-pro/ http://www.goldwave.ca/ https://www.audacityteam.org/

When I use Wave lab as the tool copy it opens , I edit the file and close it and it asks you to save changes, I save and the file closes leaving wave lab open and empty. When I return focus to Cakewalk it will tell me the audio file has changed and do I wish to update, yes. If I open a second tool copy it will return me to wave lab which is of course still running

Did you not read the answers? It costs money. Cakewalk is free so cannot include components that are licensed by any 3rd party. This is why we no longer have a lot of the 3rd party plug ins included like we had when Sonar was $500. At best you could include a demo version like Melodyne is.