John Vere

And why I don’t like software mixers. Put the controls on the hardware where it belongs. With software mixers you are adding an extra digital layer to the signal path. Like a plug in. And seems almost nobody tests anything on Sonar.

It’s why nobody is left here. I now have 4 Daw’s that I can use forever until Windows update kills them. And I reverted to Platinum if I need to access old projects. Im happy! But it sad that Bandlab forgot about us.

Go to manufacture web site and download and install the audio driver carefully following instructions. Go to settings/ Sound and check that Evo 1/2 are enabled and the default input and output devices. Disable all other devices listed both input and output. Go into advanced settings and choose your sample rate that you set in the Evo control panel. There’s a test tone you can confirm that everything is working and you have your monitors left and right connected properly. In Sonar preferences audio first select ASIO. Make sure no other devices are listed or checked. You want to only see the Evo on all the audio settings tabs including sync and caching. If there’s any sign of a generic ASIO driver remove them in the RegEdit App. Waveform is a free Daw you can use to test as well.

You can also just drag the drum track to the timeline and Melodyne will create a tempo map. Using ripple edit you drag the project so it starts on a downbeat.

Go to help menu that is where you sign in and activate.

Audience requests are not a problem for me. I have over 300+ popular songs on hand. I now have been making my tracks into videos for this reason. The video guides me through songs I might not be sure of. It’s a lot of preparation work but over time you collect songs and it gets easier.

Thank you @Salvatore Sorice, @Starship Krupaand @57Gregy Just to be clear what happened was last July a moderator blocked me from posting with out any explanation of why? Then as well as I wasn’t allowed to upgrade my Bandlab membership from Monthly to annual at the discount. Needless to say I was very upset so I signed out of the forum and removed all my CbB and Next tutorials from You Tube. That was JohnVere/ Cactus Music account that goes back to about 2006. That is my legacy account. I got the discount deal by logging in under my Sock Monkey account. It wasn’t until the late fall that I started posting on the forum using that name. I PM’d members sometimes to let them know this. I wasn’t trying to hide anything. But a few months ago for reasons once again unknown I opened the forum to find out I no longer existed as Sock Monkey and all those posts now show up as “Guest” ? So not a big deal as I have now uninstalled all Bandlab products and only have 8.5 and Splat installed. I now use 3 other Daw’s. But this forum is a long time part of my music life so I read it still and I don’t mind helping out if the topic is general discussion and not about how to use Bandlab products. I don’t support the brand anymore. Hopefully that moderator will not see this and block me once again. Oh well. It’s sad that we as a user group are now not allowed to criticize the company.

I have a TC Voice live. It sounds just fine when the harmonies are mixed in at a low level live. One day I thought I would try using it to create harmony for a recording. I first tried singing live and recording the stereo output into 2 mono tracks. Even Melodyne could not fix the terrible results. Then I took the lead vocals, copied it and applied maximum correction using Melodyne and fed that to the voice live. So it was getting a perfect pitched normalized input. It still sounded pretty bad. Not usable for recording. So your belief that they have the technology to create perfect pitches/ harmony/Bass line? From a live vocal or instrument track is flawed. As far as I know it is almost impossible to do this from a guitar. Super easy with a keyboard. The problem is the conversion from analog to digital format. It will be jumping all over the place because of the inherent overtones a guitar creates as well as lower frequencies make real time tracking slow. A midi guitar like the Fishman is the closest thing to technology that can make an octave lower bass sound happen when playing. But even then midi guitar tracking of lower frequencies suffers from latency. It can track higher frequencies faster but low frequencies take longer to analyze and create. A Octave pedal isn’t a solution because it lowers all the strings. One might be able to build a very high tech guitar with a separate pick up for the low strings? Midi guitar can separate each string. But you have to actually play the bass line as you chord. So perfect technique is required. It can be done. This is why every one uses backing tracks. Problem solved. Or like a friend of mine uses a Roland Bass floor pedal which is like on a Hammond organ. Or people use loopers but that’s super weird to figure out. Ive use backing tracks since 1986. Now with stem separation and audio to midi I can create new songs in a few hours. There’s a free midi file for just about every popular song made.

So you are saying that it still doesn’t work even when paired with S1 or another Daw? That most certainly implies that the hardware has an issue. There’s a sub forum for Presonus hardware on the user forum. studio one forum. com Might be help available there.

My only realistic suggestion would be to use S1 no more stupid issues. Im afraid Cakewalk has become abandon ware.

There’s an article about this I easily found in. Sound on Sound from 2009. Seems to me the software itself is now outdated anyway so no loss there, the DVD came with thousands of midi loops which are probably pretty easy to copy from the DVD. And it seems there are also lots of samples available as well. So you can probably recoup your losses by grabbing the content.

Yep, that’s exactly what happened. The audio is sitting happily in the 10 GB C drive of that computer. Now if you were me you would still have that hard drive sitting in a shoebox in the woodshed. Whether it will still spin up is another question! And if I could sill find the power adapter for my IDE enclosure as well is a good question! It’s a common problem with all software that saves your work. The default is often hidden deep in the bowels of C drives Roaming app data. Old age teaches you to always go into the options and choose a location you can easily find. And best to use a Data drive for this.

I don’t have Cakewalk anymore but in preferences there’s a page where you can set audio recording bit depth. I have a Zoom L8 and have that option but looking into it, I soon learned it is a total waste of hard drive space. If the choice was floating point that would be different. But it is a fixed amount. Most Daw’s use 32 floating point for internal processing and rendering. But 24 bit has been chosen by even the most high end audio interface manufacturers for good reason. Zoom is just giving you an option to use something that at best will make a .005% difference to your audio quality. Better A/D converters and pre amps would be needed to start taking advantage of that resolution. But even that’s debatable. 48/24 is the industry standard for good reasons. You want better sound? Treat your room and and purchase good quality gear.

And actually Neil posted back when W11 came out how everyone was noticing an improvement in performance. Spyware?? Tin foil hat?

Im facing this same dilemma. Both my monitors are really old and they don’t even match. One is 24 and the other is a 21. And the colours are different. Im looking at the curved ultra wide options and then possibly placing a 2nd monitor above? I’ve always wanted 3 monitors but my video cards 3 rd port is a display port? For the second upper monitor Im thinking of using a 4K 42 TV.

It is rare but in my long life I’ve known 4 men but only 3 women called Lynn. Getting back to the issue of using screen readers I wonder how Waveform would work for you? If you activate the help widget it displays a text box that explains what you point the mouse at. I know you can’t use a mouse but it also has very good keyboard shortcuts that are super easy to customize. And it’s free for the basic version.

The clue was in the sustain pedal.

I noticed that too. I use 2 interfaces a Motu and a Zoom. I use a couple of other Daw’s and once I set up the audio they maintain that device. In other words I can leave both interfaces connected and powered up. I can use the Motu in Daw A and the Zoom in Daw B. I can switch interfaces using a list of all my interfaces that have ASIO drivers installed. They remain on the list even when not available. Sonar will mostly focus on the Motu but the only way to switch to the Zoom is to close Sonar and turn off the Motu. But then Sonar freaks out and says that there’s no audio device. I never realized how badly Sonars entire audio system is designed until I started using other Daw’s. And that whole issue of having Generic Audio drivers installed is a none issue in all other Daw’s as well. And people often loosing sound when they switch audio systems. The master bus will say none.

This seems backwards. The midi track should be output to the Soft Synth.

This sounds like your audio system is set at a different sample rate than the project.

The standard format for sending a project from any Daw to be mixed elsewhere is to export all tracks as both dry stems and wet stems. This allows the engineer to listen to your choice of effects and automation and if they like your wet stems they can use them. If the don’t then they can use a dry stem. Here’s my workflow for this. The first run you choose Tracks no effects or automation “ Dry”! You can now choose to export mono and stereo in same batch very cool feature they just added. 48/. 32 no dithering Super important! Entire project starting at zero The tracks will be named automatically so make sure they are clearly labeled in the track view. Second pass just change to all stereo and tracks through entire mix. “Wet” I also would export your entire mix as well for a reference. They will also be labeled as such.

As I have been saying over and over the default settings are badly defined. Default Workspace is Basic?? This has tripped up just about everyone including long time users. Seems Workspaces are not on everyone’s radar. Kinda like Mix Recall. Or Ripple edit. I made a tutorial for Workspaces once and it only got a few views. The logical choice would be None so that nothing is hidden. Then as users start exploring features they could start customizing and hiding things they don’t want.

I remember having this issue too. And there was a reason but sorry I can’t remember what it was. I think it was a setting that got changed by a keyboard shortcut? It wasn’t a plug in. Because it was global to even empty projects I do remember making a screen capture of it and submitting it to support. But I can’t remember if they solved the problem. It was probable scook who helped

I was having this issue with videos would start playing and the audio was crackling. Then the video would freeze but the audio kept playing. I posted on the Vegas user forum and they said there was issues with the Nvidia driver from January. I rolled back to an earlier drive and it did not fix it. Nothing I did fixed it. i decided it was time for a clean install of Windows anyhow because of all the stupid stuff I'd been installing over the last year in my quest for a new Daw. I did that and my problem totally was gone. Oddly enough it seems Windows installed the very same driver automatically. Nvidia RTX 3060 Version 572.83. Go figure. But overall it was well worth the effort. Vegas is now rendering videos 2x faster. I installed the Daw I now use and then a X3 and Splat. Everything is very responsive. I didn't think I could return to SPlat but I love the fact I have my custom theme again. And no more crashing of my older projects.

I realized one thing I missed is that the effects send is Post Fader. In other words nothing will be send out the effects output is the fader is turned off. And of course that will be required otherwise the click track goes out the mains. I love my Zoom L8 for many reasons they also make the L6 https://zoomcorp.com/en/ca/digital-mixer-multi-track-recorders/digital-mixer-recorder/livetrak-l6-final/ I'm not dead sure about the Zoom L6 but I think it works exactly like my L8 but just has fewer channels and XLR inputs. But it looks like it has the same system so you can make a custom headphone mix for your in ears. And the effects are the same they are by far the best I've ever used in a small mixer. My quest for the perfect little mixer had me using a few Yamaha's similar to yours as well as I owned a Mackie Mix 8 and a Pro FX 8. But all of those had terrible effects. So I started using the TC Voice live harmony pedal. For you possibly the only thing you might not like is the Zoom's are digital mixers. This takes a bit more of a learning curve but the very cool thing is it can do everything a way bigger ( heavier) mixer can do in a very small package. And you can set it up at home and you can save those settings as a Scene. Here's the features I now can't be without. I can play with up to 3 other musicians and we each get 2 Combi inputs. We each can have our own in ear or floor monito mix. It's a first class 12x 4 ASIO audio interface that I love the way every control is right there in front of me and I can leave stuff plugged in. And once again I could use it to record a whole band and have 4 different headphone mixes. There is at least 4 options for connection my Laptop for my backing tracks. 4 channel ASIO USB, 2 Channel USB ASIO, 1/8" jack and 2 x1/4" jacks. If you are using Cakewalk playlist for your tracks you can have a stereo full mix and then send a click track to outputs 3/4 so have total control over that. I keep my phone plugged in to the 1/8 jack and I can flip to that at the push of a button to play background break music. And it has a built in multi track recorder so I record my gigs at the press of a button. It is truly a Swiss army knife of mixers and it is super light and small. It can run off USB power or Batteries. I looked at all the options and this was what I chose. I'm tempted to order a L6 just for my solo gigs as it is even smaller.