razor7music 248 Posted December 6, 2019 Hello Group-- Many CW versions ago, in PRV, there was an edit tool where you could use a straight line to edit velocity. Either the activation of that tool is somewhere I can no longer find it (probably not), or the tool was removed in past versions. It's hard to explain, but if you used to use it, you know what I mean (I hope). Is it still an option? If not, would anyone like to see that come back? Thanks, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterMc 6 Posted December 6, 2019 With the controller pane showing, use the transform tool. Activate this with a little button in the bottom left corner. It looks like a square with a dot in the middle. Then drag the corners of the box that appears in the controller pane. Cheers, Peter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R Henn 9 Posted December 6, 2019 F9 key brings up the draw tool. Hit twice will toggle the line tool IIRC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razor7music 248 Posted December 7, 2019 I'm back in the studio, and I don't think I was clear on my explanation of what I am looking for. There used to be a line tool where one side was "anchored" on the left so as to make drawing a perfectly straight horizontal line across multiple MIDI note velocities was easy. I've seen the current line drawing tool, but the one I'm trying to refer to is the one I described above. If you can imagine you had a string that had one end pinned down with a tack. Pulling the opposite end tight would make it easy to create a straight line. That's how the line tool used to work as an option. Anyone remember that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyline_UK 87 Posted December 7, 2019 Are you thinking of an envelope in the track view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razor7music 248 Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Skyline_UK said: Are you thinking of an envelope in the track view? Nope. It was an option in PRV when you had a split view of the midi events with the velocity in the bottom view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treesha 289 Posted December 7, 2019 I know exactly what you mean and I haven’t been able to find it or make something work similarly either. I miss it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZincT 2,530 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, razor7music said: Hello Group-- Many CW versions ago, in PRV, there was an edit tool where you could use a straight line to edit velocity. Either the activation of that tool is somewhere I can no longer find it (probably not), or the tool was removed in past versions. It's hard to explain, but if you used to use it, you know what I mean (I hope). Is it still an option? If not, would anyone like to see that come back? Thanks, Do you mean this? Right Click on the Draw tool at the top left and select Line In the PRV velocity window left click at the start of the line and drag to the right with the left mouse button still pressed Let go of the left mouse button at the end of the line In the example below I have dragged a velocity line from the first to the fifth event to create a linear increase in velocity. Edited December 7, 2019 by ZincT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razor7music 248 Posted December 7, 2019 @Noel Borthwick Do you know what tool/option I'm referring to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razor7music 248 Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, ZincT said: Do you mean this? Right Click on the Draw tool at the top left and select Line In the PRV velocity window left click at the start of the line and drag to the right with the left mouse button still pressed Let go of the left mouse button at the end of the line In the example below I have dragged a velocity line from the first to the fifth event to create a linear increase in velocity. Nope. I mentioned it's not the current line draw tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckebaby 769 Posted December 7, 2019 The transformation tool ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZincT 2,530 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, razor7music said: Nope. I mentioned it's not the current line draw tool. Ok sorry I just responded to the first post and missed the third one. I have always done this with the line draw or latterly transform tool and I don't recall seeing any other way but it may pre-date my use of CbB/Sonar. Edited December 7, 2019 by ZincT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treesha 289 Posted December 7, 2019 No, there was no bounding box as shown in the transform tool help. It just made a line that stayed attached on the left side and could be angled across the whole of the songs velocity events and made a perfect line. Its not as easy to get a perfectly straight line with what tools I am familiar with now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 905133 1,010 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) I have almost no experience with PRV, but I looked in Sonar 3 Producer and am wondering if this is what's being discussed? First png: I had no data, but had a line drawing tool. It had a big + [plus] on the right side of the line that didn't get captured. ADDENDUM: Second png: hand drawn and line tool with data. Third png: tool bar with "Draw Line [L]" Tool Edited December 7, 2019 by User 905133 to add a new png (x2) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Baay 835 Posted December 7, 2019 Line tool works that same as it always did; it just doesn't show an actual line across the velocities/controllers as shown in the screenshot from SONAR 3. The starting point is anchored, and the you can drag the end around to get the slope and range of the linear change you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razor7music 248 Posted December 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, David Baay said: Line tool works that same as it always did; it just doesn't show an actual line across the velocities/controllers as shown in the screenshot from SONAR 3. The starting point is anchored, and the you can drag the end around to get the slope and range of the linear change you want. Really? Ok, that makes sense. I'll try it again. Have to say I prefer seeing the line. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites