Bapu 6,683 Posted March 29 22 minutes ago, abacab said: I guess my discounted WUP I bought on 25 Mar 2023 was not such a bad idea ((at least for me). Now will @smallstonefan be back on the Waves train? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
telecode 101 1,888 Posted March 29 20 minutes ago, Bapu said: I guess my discounted WUP I bought on 25 Mar 2023 was not such a bad idea ((at least for me). Now will @smallstonefan be back on the Waves train? oh no. i am afraid to look. what is WUP being sold at now? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bapu 6,683 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, telecode 101 said: oh no. i am afraid to look. what is WUP being sold at now? 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander Verstraten 927 Posted March 29 I wonder if they will only sell the perpetual licenses against the list price and no more $29 sales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Carpenter 368 Posted March 29 Shows to go doesn’t it. Resoundingly spanked as they definitely were, about face, quick march!!. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavlovsCat 3,588 Posted March 29 (edited) They've restored perpetual licenses, but restoring their customers trust will be much harder. Waves showed their customers that there was something even worse than WUP. It doesn't endear Waves to me. In fact, after this, I doubt I will buy a Waves plugin again. However, if one of my Abbey Road plugins stops working, I would WUP it -- assuming that Waves hasn't gone back to subscription only at that point, which I do think remains a possibility after this situation. Without a doubt, I don't think it's wise to trust this company. However, I'm grateful that they restored perpetual licenses and their customers' ability to buy support contracts (WUP) in case our existing plugins stop working. But it's a lot like a school bully who decided not to steal a kid's lunch money for a day. I have zero confidence Waves will not engage in future problematic practices; in fact my expectation is that they will engage in other problematic practices. However, there's a wealth of talented developers that I think are more trustworthy and deserving of our money. I'll be supporting them. Edited March 29 by PavlovsCat 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,762 Posted March 29 So it was all some manager’s magic to make us register all those plugins we had lying around 2 2 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John1984 64 Posted March 29 On 3/26/2023 at 8:06 PM, John1984 said: I'd put money on Waves changing course on selling perpetual licenses and WUP within 30 days, but I don't believe it's going to save this company. The problem, as I see it, is the pooch is as screwed as one can imagine. This was such a galactically stupid way of handling it from one end to the other. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd put $100 down on Soundwide owning Waves within twelve months. As an aside, if I were pro-tools-expert.com, I'm not sure I'd be that excited about having the scoop so very well prepared today. I'll stand by both of those Magic 8-Ball predictions. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann 901 Posted March 29 Excellent news that they didn't take too long to turn around. Now we can turn the conversation to whether the subscription deal is good or not (I'm not subscribing because I already have Mercury, Abbey road, Nx collection and Inspire but actually, I think they priced it quite right for new users) The apology in the reinstatement letter was the right thing to do, and hopefully they'll follow it up with some nice surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Arwood 311 Posted March 29 Wow, that didn't take long. I didn't even have time to complain, but I didn't buy any plugins either. I wonder how much their sale dropped during their no perpetual license era? I'm sure this will be a drop in sale for some time to come. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dumbquestions 21 Posted March 29 (edited) I’m just waiting for something along the lines of: “In celebration of welcoming back perpetual licenses, and as our way of saying we’re sorry, we’re pleased to present all of our long-time loyalty users with a record-low discount price of $28.99 across our entire library of plugins!…” Edited March 29 by dumbquestions 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina 82 Posted March 29 (edited) 3 hours ago, John1984 said: https://www.waves.com/news/perpetual-waves-licenses-are-back They’re backtracking now, LMAO Where are now the Waves advocates of our forum to tell us the tale about the Angry Minority ™ like this guy called @Carl Ewing who was sharing his wishful thinking yesterday, destroying all the critics of Waves sub move. Edited March 29 by Marina 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smallstonefan 448 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Bapu said: I guess my discounted WUP I bought on 25 Mar 2023 was not such a bad idea ((at least for me). Now will @smallstonefan be back on the Waves train? I never left it! 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann 901 Posted March 29 25 minutes ago, dumbquestions said: I’m just waiting for something along the lines of: “In celebration of welcoming back perpetual licenses, and as our way of saying we’re sorry, we’re pleased to present all of our long-time loyalty users with a record-low discount price of $28.99 across our entire library of plugins!…” I'm a simple man. Add StudioVerse to Mercury, do a 50% off WUP sale and I'll be a happy camper 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina 82 Posted March 29 After the Waves sub-only fiasco other plugin dev companies will think twice before following the Waves steps. Couldn’t be happier. AVID, I hope that you’re taking notes now 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionel 250 Posted March 29 The one benefit for Waves and this whole debacle… They forced us to register our unregistered plugins(else we’d lose those plugins). Meaning they cleaned-house on all the unregistered serials and they’ll most likely make money sooner than later with those potential future WUP’d plugins. I bought a Waves bundle during the last BF/CM sale… I really despise them for making me have to register sooner than I had wanted. Stay classy, Waves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wyley 20 Posted March 29 Good that they reversed their boneheaded decision, however, I'm done with them. Generally, there are much better plugins from other companies that actually value their customers. The slap in the face from Waves management was the wake-up call I guess many of us needed. Some are quick to forgive and forget, others have already moved on and let that be a lesson to Waves and other companies. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vernon Barnes 738 Posted March 29 Well, lets see if their tech support is working. After 26th March update Waves VSts wont load in Studio One. Its fine in Cakewalk and Komplete Kontrol so I did not see the problem immediately. I have opened tickets with Waves and Presonus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bapu 6,683 Posted March 29 12 minutes ago, Vernon Barnes said: After 26th March update Waves VSts wont load in Studio One. Not here. I did the update to waves central, did a complete uninstall, and the na fresh install (of V14 only since I own the whole kitandkaboodle). Everything is as it should be on Studio One. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigb 7,329 Posted March 29 Just popped in to see if others got the email from the Wave CEO and it looks like they have! I can only imagine how much "feedback" they got! 😆 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
