I hate to break it to you guys and spoil the fun, but the race with KVR was not real ever. I just noticed their page length is not the same. Taking the number of pages to gauge ourselves was a flawed mathematical theory based on an alternate reality that distorted the real world! The only real value that matters is: number of posts! Which we have always had it better! Us... ...and Them The Cakewalk deal forum: the forum to rule them all!!! 👍💪 Thanks to the king