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Windows X will probably offer this concept on their new core, where various modules will be allowed to run Win32/64 via self-contained instances. Would not be surprised to see it. 

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And if you could get a really stripped down version of windoze with none of the totally useless bloat -then there'd be even less folks even THINKING about Linux...And even though W10Pro let's you do a lot under the hood, it is still buggy. crashy, and full of shite! I am not advocating for Linux, mind you, just saying MS really should look at light versions that serious users of PC's running audio and video work (and not worrying about games compatibility and performance, or surfing the web) can use.

As they won't, then, well, users will try to find alternatives that do. They are certainly not delusional!

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On 5/20/2020 at 6:46 PM, StudioNSFW said:

Troubleshooting on a PeeCee: Get error message.  Put error message in Google.  Find link to the hotfix offered in the Windows KB.

Troubleshooting on a Mac: Get error message.  Put error message in Google. Find article in Apple KB on what setting needs to be changed.

Troubleshooting on a Linux box: Get error message.  Put error message in Google. Discover how many people have had the same error and have asked how to clear it the  community forums.  Find possible solution halfway through a thread on page 4.  Try to update library mentioned in post. Discover it has dependencies downstream. Use package manager to update it all.  Solution doesn't work.  Continue to read thread and discover it didn't work for a lot of other people either. Continue to search. find another possible answer. rinse, repeat.  eventually get the program working, but another program had a dependency on that old gcc+ library and now needs to be updated to work with the replacement.  reinstall app using package manager.  Test both, now they work! 

Super simple!

If I want to fsck around with computers I'll have a girlfriend sit on my Mac mini. 

 

Don't forget that reading a typical man page for a linux command will take a year...

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On 5/21/2020 at 11:27 AM, Øyvind Skald said:

That means it is better to write a Linux app than "native" .net app.

Depends what language you like writing in...

As an aside, a .NET Core app will run in both Windows and Linux. You can't use WPF for UIs and expect them to run on Linux though; maybe a cross platform library like Qt, though they just don't 'feel' quite right.

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The simple answer is, if you don't like Windows and think it's bloated, don't use Windows. If you want a Unix-based OS either go with Linux or, if you want more app support, go with a Mac that runs some variant of OSX.

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Linux is a failure in the consumer market because it's a support nightmare. It has bad backward and forward compatibility, which causes an influx of support costs after machines (or software packages) are sold - as things eventually start to break when users upgrade their destroy, drivers fall out of support, software falls out of support, and OEMs stop producing updated support software for components. 

Linux only works in environments where LTS destros running atop certified hardware is viable - i.e. Enterprise and Education, Medical and Science, Engineering, Post Production, etc. Even still, those co.panies often have specific distos that they've certified (often Red Hat/CentOS, SUSE, and Ubuntu LTS).

This is why Apple does not license macOS out.

Windows is really the only OS that has been able to achieve what it has, becausMicrosoft doesn't break things constantly at the system level, and it was engineered specifically to work in this way - since the days of DOS this was always the case. 

Reliability, in this fashion, is key to co sumer market penetration. 

I do think Bitwig is legit, it is just overshadowed by Ableton Live, which is the Pro Tools of the EDM market. 

But that doesn't help much, because Linux is so bad when it comes to other software segments. Video Editing, for example, is another weak area where the choices are very limited (or require a higher end system, like Resolve).

If you actually step back and look at things, even macOS is pretty barren for choices in some niches. They just happen to have stocked up in the bigger market segments 😉

The only popular macOS-only DAW is Logic. Windows has several capable DAWs that are only available on that platform. 

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The mistake Linux fans make is in assuming cost is a barrier, when the reality is that the ecosystem and convenience of competing platforms is more than worth the $99 for a Windows Home license, or whatever (even cheaper) markup the OEM adds to put it on their machines. 

Average person doesn't care if they can see the code. They just know that software they bought for $300 15 years ago on Windows, while software from 7 years ago would have you running an equally old distro to function in most cases (or hunt down tons of dependencies, or recompile, etc.).

The alleged benefits aren't worth limiting yourself. 

Plus, Apple has stepped in to fill the void that Linux gave away to it, with OS X. 

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27 minutes ago, Cakewalk User said:

The mistake Linux fans make is in assuming cost is a barrier, when the reality is that the ecosystem and convenience of competing platforms is more than worth the $99 for a Windows Home license, or whatever (even cheaper) markup the OEM adds to put it on their machines. 

Average person doesn't care if they can see the code. They just know that software they bought for $300 15 years ago on Windows, while software from 7 years ago would have you running an equally old distro to function in most cases (or hunt down tons of dependencies, or recompile, etc.).

The alleged benefits aren't worth limiting yourself. 

Plus, Apple has stepped in to fill the void that Linux gave away to it, with OS X. 

 

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I have found Manjaro easy to install and use. The only real issue is that it's just as easy to hose your system if you're not paying attention during something like a kernel update.

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