Syphus

I just recently (as in yesterday/today) spent backing up my computers/drives.   I decided to go the "Clonezilla" route.

Has anyone utilized this software and what is your satisfaction level with it.  One of the reasons I went this route was due to cheapness (its free).

Right now my DAW Laptop is backing up an image to a USB 4TB drive via Clonezilla.   Unfortunately this method does not support incremental type backups but I want to do this once a month in the event of a drive failure.

I also have a USB external drive that I backup my stuff to (such as CbB project files  and installers using Clonezilla),  I also back up that drive image image to another drive.

The Clonezilla method requires the use of a bootable USB drive to run a Linux OS in ram (memory) and no install on my hard drive w/background tasks.

Syphus

Hi -  I just test this out ( I think this is what you want):

(even thought I'm a bit late)

Open a new project (basic)

Set your audio to none (it will change once you start recording)

Turn you input fader down

Go to the page for preferences (as shown by Noel above)

Click the "playback box", "count in" to "0" measures

set you tempo

Arm your track for record, type "r" on keyboard.  Recording should start.  Let this record for about 4 and 1/2 measures.  Then stop.

Go to your track and select measure 1 thru 4, set your loop (for 4 measures)

Once loop selected, hit play.   Transport should loop through the 4 measures and the "Metronome"  should be clicking

If this is not what you are trying to accomplish - oops, sorry

Syphus

5 hours ago, pwalpwal said:

seems like a prompt for the qa team to do a quick sanity/regression test @ anything-other-than-100% or so

Let me say a quick thing here:   This is not the most elegant solution to this problem, but support advised that one should update to Windows 10 (as a solution).   It does not appear that support (I did contact them) will pursue this as a CbB problem .   This could be true (not getting treated as a CbB problem), but following the procedure above you might be able to get around it somewhat and get back the functionality as it was designed (for Start Window).

Syphus

2 hours ago, scook said:

For years, Noel has recommended running the scanner from preferences NOT the plug-in manager. It might be a good idea to get in the habit of using preferences whenever possible and restricting use of the plug-in manager only when necessary such as exclude list and plug-in layout management.

Interesting... I will do that next time  . . .  Although, now I'm curious as to why . . .   I will search the old forums and see what I can find . . .

Thanks for the info . . .   Once again  . . .

Syphus

6 hours ago, paulo said:

I'll have a look at that later, but now I've learned that it replaces the existing .dll I'm not sure I want an expiring demo to do that.

I was just relating my story  . . .    If you have it installed and license set in your Ilok account.  Just re-scan your plugins with the "Plugin Manager" (Utilities> Cakewalk Plug-in Manager).  You should be good at that point.

Syphus

3 hours ago, paulo said:

Well so far I've spent over an hour installing it and trying to get the VST scanner to recognise the .dll which didn't happen so I gave up. 

Here is my tale:  Installed it without the license installed to Ilok.    Ran cake and the scanner was stuck on Loom.dll.  Closed cake to find that underneath was a dialog box asking for license info.

So I got the license, installed into Ilok.   Ran Cake and no scan, no loom detected.  So I ran the full scan from the manager and Loom found.   Loom was under "Instrument" tab listed under Uncategorized .   Set it to synth and all is good.

Syphus

Alright folks - Last entry before we re-enter the atmosphere . . . 

The last test I wanted to do before concluding this thread was rebooting the computer and see if that last entry (by me) rang true.

The scroll bar seems to be a bit thinner that I would expect, but the scroll bar is still there.  All seems to be working as it is supposed to.   Of course one can only expect 16 icons to be available do to the design of the  "Start Screen", but now I can access them via the SS.

To summarize, here is how I got this to work:

I went to the setting in my control panel (for windows OS) and set the "Display" heading  under "Appearance and Personalization" and changed the setting from "125%" to "100%".   This will cause you to have to logout of your account and re-login.    Do not pay attention to the way your  desktop looks at this time.  Open cakewalk and check your SS.  It should be normal looking (with a visible scroll bar) and all other methods working ( arrow keys& pg up/dn keys).   At this point go back and change your text setting back to "125%", logoff & re-login".  Your desktop should be back to normal.   Open cakewalk and see if you SS is working correctly.

I just wanted to finish this up in case anybody out there encounter this - maybe this will help them.  I'm going to set this as solved at this point.

Thanks all who contributed to this thread . . .

Syphus

OK - Iied (LOL) . . . When back to old settings and all is right with my display . . . but,  now I can grab my scroll tab and I have opened and closed cake several time and it seems consistent.

Too weird for me

They say:  To err is human; to really mess up takes a computer

Syphus

Too late - Already tried it -  mine was set for 125% and now 100% 

The bar became visible and usable.  I can't say that I am enjoying this resolution though . . .   It messed up my  desk top arrangement (fixable)  but the weird thing is now my browser (firefox - bookmarks) is a bit strange (also fixable).

I have run to band practice for the rest of the day so it will be a bit before I get back to the investigation.

Syphus

4 minutes ago, Chuck E Baby said:

Are you running a normal Windows theme ? What OS ?

Yes, normal theme - the OS is windows 7

I did check the drivers for the video card and they are up to date.

1 hour ago, HIBI said:

I compared SS window width both yours and mine. It's same size. (inner size is 1023 pixels)

Interesting.   I don't know then what the deal is - all I know something funny is going on with this function

3 hours ago, HIBI said:

In short, SS is shifting to the right in the window at first so the scroll bar is sticking out of window?

Not exactly - I would say that the window is not large enough  (wide enough)  to show the scroll bar.  I'm getting it to show by forcing the window to shift (as you can see in the image above.  Note the letting is getting cutoff once the scroll bar pops out)

Syphus

When the "Start Screen" (SS for now) first appears after initial launch of cakewalk:

Mouse-pad does not move the window, the up/dn arrows or pg up/dn do not either

If I click (using the mouse pointer) on an empty space around the project icons while on the "Recent Project", then the up/dn arrows or pg up/dn WILL move the window up/dn so as to select the additional projects displayed in the window.  Doing the same on the "New Project" tab yields the same results.  No scroll bar in either view.

If I do a "double tap" and hold the second tap on the mouse-pad, then swipe the mouse pointer to the right until all at once, the entire window shifts to the left - boom!  (I would like to note that this set of commands, does a select function, highlighting the icons and such)  The scroll bar suddenly appears and now I can use the mouse pointer to move the scroll bar to move the window up and down.  All appears to function normal, but the window remains shifted to the left.  (the scroll bar is black)

Once the SS is closed and restarted (via the file menu or restarting cake) the SS is back to the non-functioning status until one forces it to start working per the above instructions.

Even if most people are not experiencing this "behavior"  this is not correct functionality in my book.

I will leave this topic open for a while and I will be sending the above info to Support and hopefully they will look into it for a future release.  It is not a show stopper by any means, but at least it answers the question as how the "Start Screen" should be working.  I will report any info I get from Support that is relevant.

Thanks to all that left their comments . . .
Syphus

Between the last two postings (Dr Steve & HIBI)  I have stumbled in to an interesting situation.  I can get it to work correctly, but I have to force it to work.

I have not come across the correct procedure to reproduce it yet - but for me, it seems the "window" needs to be larger by some amount of pixels so I can grab the scroll bar.

I'll report back with my findings....

Syphus

I don't have a mouse connected at this time due to USB port limits (as in not enough - LOL) . So I use the mouse pad on my laptop.

But to answer your question,

26 minutes ago, Chuck E Baby said:

Can you grab the slider (Right hand side) and use it instead of mouse wheel ?

I can see (barely) the actual scroll bar handle - but it only moves a fraction of the window (like 1/16th of an inch - or a few millimeters)

and what I can see (tops of next template) are not clickable  . . .

Syphus

Additional info (an realization)  the scroll bar is "black" and is the length of the window.  If you look closely, you can see the top and bottom of the bar:

(on my system)  the bar is black, the background is grey.  I can move it just barely and see the window move just a hair . . .  I wonder if something to do with my graphics card???  just a thought.

Syphus

Just saw it . . .  place a link to this thread.   I think that something is not right . . .  Hopefully other will check and get back

Thanks for looking into this . . .

Syphus

That is interesting.  I just got done doing my experiments and I could not get the " Start Screen"  to function properly . . .

I started this thread here . . .

Hello everyone,

I came across what I believe to be a bug.  I'm reaching out to see effects everyone and not just me.  Here is the problem:

When in the "Start Screen", selecting the "Recent Projects" or "New Project" tab, you are presented with a list of projects or templates.  Right now I'm just going to talk about the "New Project" tab.  If you have more that 8 templates (and up to 16), the window is supposed to allow you to scroll down the window to select the templates that do not fit in the window of the "Start Screen".  This is the way it is supposed to work.

On my CW (cakewalk),  what happens once I have more that 8 templates is that I can see the top of the icon for number 9, but I can not get to it.  It appears that there is a "scroll strip" to the right of the window, but no handle to grab to move the window list up or down. [ and the up & down arrows or pg up/dwn have no effect ]

I'm using a different theme from the normal included ones - so I set my CW back to Tungsten and this made no difference.  Still did not works correctly.

Now I am in contact with support about this right now, but I want to find out if this is a general problem with the software or if it is only me having the problem.

Thanks to all that respond,

Syphus

Update:

I contacted Support about my observation of the "Start Screen" whereas the screen only allows me to access 8 start templates.  Below is the answer that I got from Support:

Quote

Hi Steve, 

The Start Screen displays up to 16 projects on either the New Project (which shows templates) or Recent Projects tabs. When there are more than 8 projects, a scroll bar will appear on the right side of the Start Screen (you can also scroll it via mouse wheel).

This did not ring true with what I experienced at the time I was looking (at the Start Screen) for this thread.  I plan on revisiting this later today to see if I perhaps am not doing this right (I do not use a mouse - I use the mouse pad for my lap top).  It did appear that the dialog box (start screen)  did try to render a scroll bar - it just failed to provide a functional scroll for me .

For completeness, I'm adding this comment and will update this thread once I see my results . . .

Syphus

Quick note,  Go to this link and read the info.   It talks about midi echo. 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=4&help=Playback.35.html

I do not think the "Echo"  button is the same as audio echo . . .   it is called "MIDI echo" on that track and the document link talks about that.

I myself, have observed that in some cases I can not turn that button off on my midi instrument track, but I never paid much attention to it  . . .

As for the drums playing at the same time as the keyboards,  this seems to be a "omni channel" thing (as in all channels receiving midi data at the same time).   Setting the correct midi channels in your instruments would avoid that.  I can not advise any more that that as I have minimal midi experience (or I have been lucky) and have not run into that problem.

Hopefully that helps.

Perhaps someone out there can give better direction as to what OP is experiencing.

Syphus

Don't think this will export a list, but may be useful:

You could send @scook and note and see if his toll does that.

Syphus

No Problem - glad it was not a bug of some sort - don't forget to mark the "best answer" for others to find . . .

Later

Syphus

Hi there again . . .

OK - Good news/Bad news  (LOL)

Good:  I found the list

Bad: The list for the most recent files is located in the registry

So depending as to how comfortable you are with your operation system will determine if you want to look and see what is there.  It is the only thing I can think of looking at it to find out if you have only "5" projects listed.

Or just do what I suggested previously (open other files).

If you want to venture in to the registry for a look, let me know and I will tell you how to do it.    I would try the opening other files first (if you don't like messing with your registry.

Otherwise I have no other suggestions at this time

Syphus

Got it - Sorry, I was looking from the template point of view (since my previous "Start Screen"  question had to do with that . . .  Now I'm curious myself.

I will take a look and if I see anything related to that, I will comment.  Off the top of my head, the "most recent" has to be stored somewhere (INI file or such).  It could be that this has gotten changed for some reason.

Try opening some other projects from the "File>Open" dialog (not any of the ones already showing up) and see if the start screen, recent projects gets populated.

Just a suggestion . . . 

Syphus